America's double standard on prayer ~

[buddy]

http://www.faithit.com/this-christi...n-prayer-entertainment/#.VkykRoGcT1g.facebook

 

[Duff Miver]

http://www.faithit.com/this-christi...n-prayer-entertainment/#.VkykRoGcT1g.facebook

Your link makes a good point.

When people are frightened and don't know what to do,they pray.

Dear God, please make Granny's pancreatic cancer go away.

Of course it won't work for advanced pancreatic cancer, never has, never will, but scared people will pray to God, Satan, Allah, Zeus, Thor, any imaginary deity when they are scared shitless. They'll eat buzzard beaks, bathe in sulfur water, cast ashes to the wind, walk backward seventeen steps, etc, etc,

It's called Magical Thinking

Magical thinking: a conviction that thinking is equivalent to doing, occurring in dreams, the thought patterns of children, and some types of mental disorders, especially obsessive-compulsive disorder.


Seen your psychiatrist recently?

 

[buddy]

There is a preponderance of evidence to the contrary.
I've seen it with my own eyes.
"Oh, the power of prayer!"
"Oh, the mystery of Christ."
"Hallelujah to the lamb of God."

Gotta' run!
Going to prayer service.
ttyl

 

[WhatsHisNuts]

From GodisImaginary.com....

[FONT=arial, Helvetica] If the Bible is literally true, then something is seriously amiss. Simply look at the facts. In Matthew 7:7 Jesus says:

• Ask, and it will be given you; seek, and you will find; knock, and it will be opened to you. For every one who asks receives, and he who seeks finds, and to him who knocks it will be opened. Or what man of you, if his son asks him for bread, will give him a stone? Or if he asks for a fish, will give him a serpent? If you then, who are evil, know how to give good gifts to your children, how much more will your Father who is in heaven give good things to those who ask him!

If "every one who asks receives", then if we ask for cancer to be cured, it should be cured. Right? If "our Father who is in heaven gives good things to those who ask him", then if we ask him to cure cancer, he should cure it. Right? And yet nothing happens. In Matthew 17:20 Jesus says:

• For truly, I say to you, if you have faith as a grain of mustard seed, you will say to this mountain, 'Move from here to there,' and it will move; and nothing will be impossible to you.

If "nothing will be impossible to you", then if we ask to cure cancer tonight, cancer should disappear. Right? Yet nothing happens. Note that if we take the Bible less-than-literally here, the statement "nothing will be impossible to you" becomes "lots of things will be impossible to you," and that would mean that Jesus is lying. In Matthew 21:21:

• I tell you the truth, if you have faith and do not doubt, not only can you do what was done to the fig tree, but also you can say to this mountain, 'Go, throw yourself into the sea,' and it will be done. If you believe, you will receive whatever you ask for in prayer.

If "you will receive whatever you ask for in prayer", then if we ask to cure cancer tonight, cancer should dissappear. Right? Yet nothing happens. Note again that there is not a non-literal way to interpret "you will receive whatever you ask for in prayer", unless you replace "whatever" with "nothing" or "little." The message is reiterated Mark 11:24:

• Therefore I tell you, whatever you ask for in prayer, believe that you have received it, and it will be yours.

If God says, "believe that you have received it, and it will be yours," and if we believe in God and his power, then what should happen if we pray to cure cancer tonight? It should be cured. Either that, or God is lying. In John chapter 14, verses 12 through 14, Jesus tells all of us just how easy prayer can be:

• "I tell you the truth, anyone who has faith in me will do what I have been doing. He will do even greater things than these, because I am going to the Father. And I will do whatever you ask in my name, so that the Son may bring glory to the Father. You may ask me for anything in my name, and I will do it." [ref]

Look at how direct this statement is: "You may ask me for anything in my name, and I will do it." This is the "Son of God" speaking. Have we taken him "too literally?" No. This is a simple, unambiguous statement. Have we taken his statement "out of context?" No - Jesus uses the word anyone. Yet Jesus' statement is obviously false. Because when we ask God to cure cancer tonight, nothing happens. We see the same thing over and over again...
In Matthew 18:19 Jesus says:

• Again I say to you, if two of you agree on earth about anything they ask, it will be done for them by my Father in heaven. For where two or three are gathered in my name, there am I in the midst of them.

In James 5:15-16 the Bible says:

• And the prayer offered in faith will make the sick person well; the Lord will raise him up. If he has sinned, he will be forgiven. Therefore confess your sins to each other and pray for each other so that you may be healed. The prayer of a righteous man is powerful and effective.

In Mark 9:23:

• All things are possible to him who believes.

In Luke 1:37:

• For with God nothing will be impossible.

Nothing could be simpler or clearer than Jesus' promises about prayer in the Bible. Yet, when we pray to eliminate cancer, nothing happens. And keep in mind that this is Jesus talking here. These are not the words of human beings. These are not the words of "inspired" human beings. These are supposedly the words of God himself, incarnated in a human body. Jesus is supposed to be a perfect, sinless being. And yet, it is obvious that Jesus is lying. What Jesus says is clearly incorrect.

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Happy Thanksgiving.

 

[buddy]

It's a matter of how we view life. The "here and now" compared to an eternal perspective.

 

[WhatsHisNuts]

It's a matter of how we view life. The "here and now" compared to an eternal perspective.

I live for the here and now. I appreciate life and those I share it with. I do what I can to ensure this life is protected and do what I can to make sure it lasts as long as possible. You?

 

[buddy]

I like to think the here and now is a gift from our Creator. I think that's why it's called the present. And I'm also in total agreement with everything else you wrote with one proviso: "I appreciate life and those I share it with. I do what I can to ensure this life, from the moment of conception forward, is protected and do what I can to make sure it lasts as long as possible.