I guess they didn't visit places like Arkansaw, Mississippi and W Virgina. Or did they do this by phone. Call a few folks how you doing tonight.
America's most miserable cites
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I'm really surprised that Chicago is on the list and Atlanta is not. The only thing that Atlanta has on Chicago is the winters (but then you have the opposite summers).
I think Chicago is a great city. And outside of traffic, LA is a pretty good place.
If you had Chicago with LA's weather, it would be pretty hard to beat.
I need to get AR's way. I think I would really dig on the Scottsdale and Phoenix areas.
I think Chicago is a great city. And outside of traffic, LA is a pretty good place.
If you had Chicago with LA's weather, it would be pretty hard to beat.
I need to get AR's way. I think I would really dig on the Scottsdale and Phoenix areas.
Don't see where my quote had anything to do with race--I'm just saying what is he going to do for U.S. that he couldn't get done in Chicago?
If you remember I said GOP debates in Mich were disgusting as all promised to help out their economy--which were nothing but political hype.
So I call em as I see em on both sides of fence.
Too bad none of them had the nads to tell them why their state of Michigan who was once the envy of most states with employment and wages is now leader in unemployment.
You think any realize now that it was the auto industry (who they pounded relentlessly with strikes) that produced the jobs--and not the unions or union backed politicians.
TP-They say beauty is in eye of beholder and considering Toledo is considered one of worse places to live in the world I can understand you thinking Chicago would be a Mecca by comparison.
http://www.worst-city.com/
The Sixty Worst Cities to Live In
Crime, traffic, drugs, too much construction, too many tourists ? we all have something to gripe about the place we live. But cheer up, it could be worse ? a lot worse.
You could live in one of these places like Dzerzinsk, Russia, home to the former Soviet Union?s Chemical Weapons manufacturing operations, where if you can even find anything alive, three- headed frogs or worse, are not an uncommon sight. Or Rotorua, New Zealand the self- proclaimed most noxious city on the planet, where the smell of rotten eggs is strong enough to choke a horse at 100 yards, thanks to the volcanic sulphur springs that dominate the landscape.
So count yourself lucky if you do not live in any of the following (in no particular order) 60 Worst Cities in The World, and if you do live in one of them ? too bad. (Maybe it's time to move!!)
Click on a city for more information and pictures.
Chernobyl Ukraine
Baghdad Iraq
Ulaan-Baatar Mongolia
Ranipet India
Detroit Michigan
Gary Indiana
Abidjan Ivory Coast
Ulaan-Baatar, Mongolia
Atlantic City NJ
Linfen China
Seattle Washington
Damascus Syria
Philadelphia PA
Mailuu-Suu Kyrgyzstan
Toledo Ohio
Milwaukee Wisconsin
Mexico City Mexico
Brazzaville Congo
Bucharest Romania
Paris France
Roswell New Mexico
Dzerzinsk Russia
Hanford Washington
Chonchon North Korea
Los Angeles California
Cleveland Ohio
Nottingham England
Rotura New Zealand
San Salvador El Salvador
Buffalo NY
Tuzla Bosnia
Compton CA
Nairobi Kenya
Laredo TX
Bangui Central African Republic
Haina Dominican Republic
Fresno, CA
Merthyr Tydfil Wales
Athens Greece
Clonmel Ireland
La Oroya Peru
Invercargill New Zealand
Norilsk Russia
Elbasan Albania
Tehran, Iran
Camden N.J.
Algiers Algeria
New Orleans LA
Port Moresby Papua New Guinea
Fairbanks AL
Kabwe Zambia
Port McNeil Canada
Grozny Chechnya
Bangkok Thailand
Luanda Angola
Douala Cameroon
Hull England
Ferguslie Park Scotland
Berlin Germany
Barcelona Spain
Clint & Al:
I don't listen to him with any regularity. Only when I want to confirm that America (and those who call into talk radio shows) are in the death throws of civilization. I listen to Limbaugh and Hannity for the same reasons. Also comic relief.
I mean I understand these guys do it for ratings, but what I really enjoy (or should I say am shocked by) is the callers and their statements. I remember several people saying "good Americans" would let the government listen into their phone calls because they had nothing to hide. Only anti-Americans were against the Patriot act. Hannity closed by saying they were good Americans.
I don't think I will ever get over that one. Too bad we didn't have more "good Americans" like that back in 1776, then the hot bet for sunday on this board would be whether Manchester United could take Leeds. I don't think I could ever get used to saying the score was ten nil.
Eddie
I don't listen to him with any regularity. Only when I want to confirm that America (and those who call into talk radio shows) are in the death throws of civilization. I listen to Limbaugh and Hannity for the same reasons. Also comic relief.
I mean I understand these guys do it for ratings, but what I really enjoy (or should I say am shocked by) is the callers and their statements. I remember several people saying "good Americans" would let the government listen into their phone calls because they had nothing to hide. Only anti-Americans were against the Patriot act. Hannity closed by saying they were good Americans.
I don't think I will ever get over that one. Too bad we didn't have more "good Americans" like that back in 1776, then the hot bet for sunday on this board would be whether Manchester United could take Leeds. I don't think I could ever get used to saying the score was ten nil.
Eddie
Absolutely. List makes no sense otherwise. NY, Chicago, LA ??? ....Charlotte??!!!
Gee, DTB...that link did not offer any substantial info at all on Toledo....it was probably written by somebody in the Block family--not that you get that reference, although my fellow Toledoans would. He and his family are publishers of our paper, the Blade and a couple times a month they do "exposes" on what a bad place this is to live, yet constantly torpedo, through editorials and misinformation campaigns (maybe you would like them, I guess ) any and all ideas to spur growth and development. Of course, none of them actually live here as its a chain paper.
Ok, but enough of that.
Actually Toledo was just honored with an International Award because of how nice a city it is within its population range.
I hated this place growing up and could not wait to leave. However, most kids always want to "escape" the town they grow up in.
But, upon my return 15 years later I find it to be a pretty neat place. We have a world class museum, a world class zoo, an excellent downtown minor league baseball stadium (we've led minor league attendance for five years in a row, now), a state of the art new hockey arena being built downtown for a new team, a thriving restaurant scene in many different pockets of the town, a great historic theater downtown, an award winning symphony orchestra, great public golf courses (and Inverness, one the pre-eminent Championship courses in the country)....not to mention a fabulous network of Metro parks. I can't stress this enough. I did not even know these existed growing up, but there are a half dozen, huge nature parks devoted for the public (my favorite president Teddy Roosevelt would be proud), and I basically pick and choose on a daily basis which trails and which park to take my runs in. In fact, me and my lady friend are going to spend some time after work cross country skiiing at one of the parks, less than a mile away from where we live. Oh, yeah and a great and thriving university and medical college. Toledo is a very educated city, my fine barking friend.
I mean, really, Dog, I could go on and on, but I dont want to sound like I am bragging about my hometown. We do have a lot of problems. We're a funky city in that we're smallish, but have a lot of the same issues confronting larger metropolitians. We need major infrastructure improvements in some areas. There are dangerous areas of the city, for sure; not to mention places that need a complete economic development overhaul. However we do have several succesful business districts dotting the town and an excellent mall that has everything. Not to mention, the surrounding areas in Lucas County have seen a tremendous boom in development, which i see as a plus for Toledo. However, we're very tied to the automotive industry, so the troubles the Big 3 have, we do too, except Toledo facilities are always the first to see cutbacks in since we're kinda sorta treated like a red headed step child by Big 3 leadership. So, you're always teetering with your job if you're involved with that, but for people in their 20s and 30s, young professionals, there are a lot of new employment opportunities and its a very affordable place to live with great heighborhoods all over the place to raise a family. I've detailed our chitty media above, and I will be the first to admit we have had a political leadership problem for many years. Our current mayor has served as a republican, democrat and independent and would rather be King of Toledo, rather than lead it. He's a tool of you ask me.
I guess my point is....its easy for you to dig up lists that offer little substance, ones that by the looks of it tries to go out of its way to denigrate big cities (i could specualte as to why, but lets not go there), and create a specter of fear and failure. But, its a little short on facts and reality if you ask me. Wouldn't expect anything less, however, from your posts.....i'm sure the lads at news corps will make you their kentucky correspondent any day now, so keep up the good work!
) any and all ideas to spur growth and development. Of course, none of them actually live here as its a chain paper.Ok, but enough of that.
Actually Toledo was just honored with an International Award because of how nice a city it is within its population range.
I hated this place growing up and could not wait to leave. However, most kids always want to "escape" the town they grow up in.
But, upon my return 15 years later I find it to be a pretty neat place. We have a world class museum, a world class zoo, an excellent downtown minor league baseball stadium (we've led minor league attendance for five years in a row, now), a state of the art new hockey arena being built downtown for a new team, a thriving restaurant scene in many different pockets of the town, a great historic theater downtown, an award winning symphony orchestra, great public golf courses (and Inverness, one the pre-eminent Championship courses in the country)....not to mention a fabulous network of Metro parks. I can't stress this enough. I did not even know these existed growing up, but there are a half dozen, huge nature parks devoted for the public (my favorite president Teddy Roosevelt would be proud), and I basically pick and choose on a daily basis which trails and which park to take my runs in. In fact, me and my lady friend are going to spend some time after work cross country skiiing at one of the parks, less than a mile away from where we live. Oh, yeah and a great and thriving university and medical college. Toledo is a very educated city, my fine barking friend.
I mean, really, Dog, I could go on and on, but I dont want to sound like I am bragging about my hometown. We do have a lot of problems. We're a funky city in that we're smallish, but have a lot of the same issues confronting larger metropolitians. We need major infrastructure improvements in some areas. There are dangerous areas of the city, for sure; not to mention places that need a complete economic development overhaul. However we do have several succesful business districts dotting the town and an excellent mall that has everything. Not to mention, the surrounding areas in Lucas County have seen a tremendous boom in development, which i see as a plus for Toledo. However, we're very tied to the automotive industry, so the troubles the Big 3 have, we do too, except Toledo facilities are always the first to see cutbacks in since we're kinda sorta treated like a red headed step child by Big 3 leadership. So, you're always teetering with your job if you're involved with that, but for people in their 20s and 30s, young professionals, there are a lot of new employment opportunities and its a very affordable place to live with great heighborhoods all over the place to raise a family. I've detailed our chitty media above, and I will be the first to admit we have had a political leadership problem for many years. Our current mayor has served as a republican, democrat and independent and would rather be King of Toledo, rather than lead it. He's a tool of you ask me.
I guess my point is....its easy for you to dig up lists that offer little substance, ones that by the looks of it tries to go out of its way to denigrate big cities (i could specualte as to why, but lets not go there), and create a specter of fear and failure. But, its a little short on facts and reality if you ask me. Wouldn't expect anything less, however, from your posts.....i'm sure the lads at news corps will make you their kentucky correspondent any day now, so keep up the good work!
Memphis did'nt make the cut?
Its a Horrible place...
I would rather live in Chicago than Memphis any day...
Its a Horrible place...
I would rather live in Chicago than Memphis any day...
TP-They say beauty is in eye of beholder and considering Toledo is considered one of worse places to live in the world I can understand you thinking Chicago would be a Mecca by comparison.
http://www.worst-city.com/
The Sixty Worst Cities to Live In
Crime, traffic, drugs, too much construction, too many tourists ? we all have something to gripe about the place we live. But cheer up, it could be worse ? a lot worse.
You could live in one of these places like Dzerzinsk, Russia, home to the former Soviet Union?s Chemical Weapons manufacturing operations, where if you can even find anything alive, three- headed frogs or worse, are not an uncommon sight. Or Rotorua, New Zealand the self- proclaimed most noxious city on the planet, where the smell of rotten eggs is strong enough to choke a horse at 100 yards, thanks to the volcanic sulphur springs that dominate the landscape.
So count yourself lucky if you do not live in any of the following (in no particular order) 60 Worst Cities in The World, and if you do live in one of them ? too bad. (Maybe it's time to move!!)
Click on a city for more information and pictures.
Chernobyl Ukraine
Baghdad Iraq
Ulaan-Baatar Mongolia
Ranipet India
Detroit Michigan
Gary Indiana
Abidjan Ivory Coast
Ulaan-Baatar, Mongolia
Atlantic City NJ
Linfen China
Seattle Washington
Damascus Syria
Philadelphia PA
Mailuu-Suu Kyrgyzstan
Toledo Ohio
Milwaukee Wisconsin
Mexico City Mexico
Brazzaville Congo
Bucharest Romania
Paris France
Roswell New Mexico
Dzerzinsk Russia
Hanford Washington
Chonchon North Korea
Los Angeles California
Cleveland Ohio
Nottingham England
Rotura New Zealand
San Salvador El Salvador
Buffalo NY
Tuzla Bosnia
Compton CA
Nairobi Kenya
Laredo TX
Bangui Central African Republic
Haina Dominican Republic
Fresno, CA
Merthyr Tydfil Wales
Athens Greece
Clonmel Ireland
La Oroya Peru
Invercargill New Zealand
Norilsk Russia
Elbasan Albania
Tehran, Iran
Camden N.J.
Algiers Algeria
New Orleans LA
Port Moresby Papua New Guinea
Fairbanks AL
Kabwe Zambia
Port McNeil Canada
Grozny Chechnya
Bangkok Thailand
Luanda Angola
Douala Cameroon
Hull England
Ferguslie Park Scotland
Berlin Germany
Barcelona Spain
Lol, weird list. Fairbanks Alaska? I have never been there but is it one the list due to the bitter cold?
Hanford Washington? Lol, radiation fallout?
Fresno? I hate raisins anyway.
Seattle? Do they hate coffee and bookstores?
How bad must it be in Chernobyl (guess they still haven't rebuilt after meltdown) if it is rated worse than Baghdad at the moment.
I wonder aloud what the rating of Baghdad was under Hussein...might be interesting.
I wonder aloud what the rating of Baghdad was under Hussein...might be interesting.
Barcelona, Spain?
Shit, I visited there and was planning on a European excursion and I ended up staying in Barcelona for an extra week because I liked it so much...traveled around the whole city and it all seemed decent at worst.
Shit, I visited there and was planning on a European excursion and I ended up staying in Barcelona for an extra week because I liked it so much...traveled around the whole city and it all seemed decent at worst.
Gee, DTB...that link did not offer any substantial info at all on Toledo....it was probably written by somebody in the Block family--not that you get that reference, although my fellow Toledoans would. He and his family are publishers of our paper, the Blade and a couple times a month they do "exposes" on what a bad place this is to live, yet constantly torpedo, through editorials and misinformation campaigns (maybe you would like them, I guess
Ok, but enough of that.
Actually Toledo was just honored with an International Award because of how nice a city it is within its population range.
I hated this place growing up and could not wait to leave. However, most kids always want to "escape" the town they grow up in.
But, upon my return 15 years later I find it to be a pretty neat place. We have a world class museum, a world class zoo, an excellent downtown minor league baseball stadium (we've led minor league attendance for five years in a row, now), a state of the art new hockey arena being built downtown for a new team, a thriving restaurant scene in many different pockets of the town, a great historic theater downtown, an award winning symphony orchestra, great public golf courses (and Inverness, one the pre-eminent Championship courses in the country)....not to mention a fabulous network of Metro parks. I can't stress this enough. I did not even know these existed growing up, but there are a half dozen, huge nature parks devoted for the public (my favorite president Teddy Roosevelt would be proud), and I basically pick and choose on a daily basis which trails and which park to take my runs in. In fact, me and my lady friend are going to spend some time after work cross country skiiing at one of the parks, less than a mile away from where we live. Oh, yeah and a great and thriving university and medical college. Toledo is a very educated city, my fine barking friend.
I mean, really, Dog, I could go on and on, but I dont want to sound like I am bragging about my hometown. We do have a lot of problems. We're a funky city in that we're smallish, but have a lot of the same issues confronting larger metropolitians. We need major infrastructure improvements in some areas. There are dangerous areas of the city, for sure; not to mention places that need a complete economic development overhaul. However we do have several succesful business districts dotting the town and an excellent mall that has everything. Not to mention, the surrounding areas in Lucas County have seen a tremendous boom in development, which i see as a plus for Toledo. However, we're very tied to the automotive industry, so the troubles the Big 3 have, we do too, except Toledo facilities are always the first to see cutbacks in since we're kinda sorta treated like a red headed step child by Big 3 leadership. So, you're always teetering with your job if you're involved with that, but for people in their 20s and 30s, young professionals, there are a lot of new employment opportunities and its a very affordable place to live with great heighborhoods all over the place to raise a family. I've detailed our chitty media above, and I will be the first to admit we have had a political leadership problem for many years. Our current mayor has served as a republican, democrat and independent and would rather be King of Toledo, rather than lead it. He's a tool of you ask me.
I guess my point is....its easy for you to dig up lists that offer little substance, ones that by the looks of it tries to go out of its way to denigrate big cities (i could specualte as to why, but lets not go there), and create a specter of fear and failure. But, its a little short on facts and reality if you ask me. Wouldn't expect anything less, however, from your posts.....i'm sure the lads at news corps will make you their kentucky correspondent any day now, so keep up the good work!
I am sure you are much more familiar with Toledo than the writers and from what you say sounds like nice place to me.
I grew in small farmimg community just outside Cape Girareau Mo called Perryville--population was 5,280 when I was a kid and I believe 5,600 when I visited parents few months ago--so I'd certainly not be one to critque city life
Smurph, I can not believe I forgot about Klinger and the famed Tony Packo's restaurant!! Damn, just when I though my position as Toledo spokesman was secure, you point out a major after thought!!!
And, hey, DTB......man was I on fumes or what, I should not post on am empty stomach as I did not intend to get that personal with you on that post.....just wanted to defend Toledo's honor a bit. I have lived here, a college town, a small rural community in the northern outposts of Michigan and the big city. Loved it all, but in every place there were people who thought it sucked beyond belief....a lot of that stuff is in the eye of the beholder as you had mentioned. Often times any place you live in is miserable if you are not entirely happy. I can say that a few of the people I work with here have lived in T-Town their whole lives and wonder what in the world I would move back for. Maybe moving around as much as I have got me a greater appreciation of my home town?
Lists like that that dont really offer fact and just baseless rhetoric tick me off, and remind me of those Challenger Gray studies about business loinsg billions of dollars because their employees fill out out ncaa brackets and such. I hope those dudes never do a Madjack study. :mj07:
If the Hilltoppers ever come up here to play the Rockets for whatever reason, bop on up here and we'll do it up.......we're a pretty underrated horse racing town as well.
And, hey, DTB......man was I on fumes or what, I should not post on am empty stomach as I did not intend to get that personal with you on that post.....just wanted to defend Toledo's honor a bit. I have lived here, a college town, a small rural community in the northern outposts of Michigan and the big city. Loved it all, but in every place there were people who thought it sucked beyond belief....a lot of that stuff is in the eye of the beholder as you had mentioned. Often times any place you live in is miserable if you are not entirely happy. I can say that a few of the people I work with here have lived in T-Town their whole lives and wonder what in the world I would move back for. Maybe moving around as much as I have got me a greater appreciation of my home town?
Lists like that that dont really offer fact and just baseless rhetoric tick me off, and remind me of those Challenger Gray studies about business loinsg billions of dollars because their employees fill out out ncaa brackets and such. I hope those dudes never do a Madjack study. :mj07:
If the Hilltoppers ever come up here to play the Rockets for whatever reason, bop on up here and we'll do it up.......we're a pretty underrated horse racing town as well.
Ya, what a asanine list. Evidently Seattle is worse than Mexico City, or Compton. Seattle is very compatible to Baghdad:nono:
DTB has stated several times that he would sooner spend a year in Baghdad than many American cities. Still waiting for him to follow up on that.
believe what I said is I'd rather spend a year in Baghdad than a U.S. ghetto--which I stand by 110%
Those who leave Iraq--have chance to go to school for free and choose diff career--or continue there free room and board-and salaried career.
The ghetto dwellers have what options?
--year after year of dodging bullets-jail-aids-welfare-poverty.
Wasn't a lot head scratching on choice
Those who leave Iraq--have chance to go to school for free and choose diff career--or continue there free room and board-and salaried career.
The ghetto dwellers have what options?
--year after year of dodging bullets-jail-aids-welfare-poverty.
Wasn't a lot head scratching on choice
Why are getto's not fixed up. There in all states black/white and other.
At best Baghdad is a tie not better. Two chit holes don't make one better.
I wonder some time who dreams up these list.
At best Baghdad is a tie not better. Two chit holes don't make one better.
I wonder some time who dreams up these list.
