androstack
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Wow, that's a blast from the past. My suggestion.....check expiration date on the bottle prior to using.
Personally, haven't seen any of these steroid precursors around the supplement industry in many years.
-JC
Personally, haven't seen any of these steroid precursors around the supplement industry in many years.
-JC
Elvis, give me a link to the exact one you're talking about. What are you looking to get out of whatever you take?
If it's the one by Univeral then I'm not sure about it. One thing you need to know is that with these products you need to do a pct. This is VERY important. If not, you can get gyno(happens more than you would think), you can have a hard time getting your sex drive back and you'll lose everything you gain. One thing you should also consider is that if you're prone to male pattern baldness you have a very good chance at shedding from this product.
Trust me on this one, these are something to just mess around with. Tell me what you're wanting out of the product and I'll steer you in the right direction. There are some really good products out right now, both natural and on the pro hormone side.
If it's the one by Univeral then I'm not sure about it. One thing you need to know is that with these products you need to do a pct. This is VERY important. If not, you can get gyno(happens more than you would think), you can have a hard time getting your sex drive back and you'll lose everything you gain. One thing you should also consider is that if you're prone to male pattern baldness you have a very good chance at shedding from this product.
Trust me on this one, these are something to just mess around with. Tell me what you're wanting out of the product and I'll steer you in the right direction. There are some really good products out right now, both natural and on the pro hormone side.
Mine had the precursors in them, and I had two different stacks one was with a diuretic in and the other just for mass. To be honest, don't really feel like I ever got that much out of it, but then again I wasn't on one either for more than a few weeks due to what layinwood said.....no sex drive...I mean it killed it....the f&cking Dallas Cowboy Cheerleaders could have surrounded my naked and I wouldn't get a boner. F7ck that.
My recommendation is to not do anything, as I hit the weights still pretty hard and stronger than most, but don't screw around with anything anymore. If anything just whey protein, that's it.
Good luck.
My recommendation is to not do anything, as I hit the weights still pretty hard and stronger than most, but don't screw around with anything anymore. If anything just whey protein, that's it.
Good luck.
i don't have a link. the product is teststack by precision. it is basically tiribulus w/ the estrogen blocker.
looking for quicker recovery/ strength gains.
currently do a good diet and take creatine 1hr prior to lifting on basically an empty stomach - this really helps me not get fatigued.
i was looking for a boost in the strength department and i have heard good things about it.
however, i was only going to use for one month at the most.
what is a pct ? i completely botched this w/ the androstack title.
this is made by precision enginered.
a friend of mine took trinindol and it made a difference. i am too old to be taking that stuff... i am looking for lean muscle w/o gaining too much weight. this has been challenging.
i am hoping for a boost, but this possible solution would not be permanent.
i may pass completely.
i also have milk thistle for the liver (provided i go with the test stack )and my drinking is down to friday night only.
any suggestions, layin, i'll be happy to hear.
looking for quicker recovery/ strength gains.
currently do a good diet and take creatine 1hr prior to lifting on basically an empty stomach - this really helps me not get fatigued.
i was looking for a boost in the strength department and i have heard good things about it.
however, i was only going to use for one month at the most.
what is a pct ? i completely botched this w/ the androstack title.
this is made by precision enginered.
a friend of mine took trinindol and it made a difference. i am too old to be taking that stuff... i am looking for lean muscle w/o gaining too much weight. this has been challenging.
i am hoping for a boost, but this possible solution would not be permanent.
i may pass completely.
i also have milk thistle for the liver (provided i go with the test stack )and my drinking is down to friday night only.
any suggestions, layin, i'll be happy to hear.
My current "stack" is creatine from Controlled Labs and 100% ON Whey Protein.
About twice a week I take a scoop or two of NO Xplode from BSN.
I've looked into the test stuff. I decided against it for now.
About twice a week I take a scoop or two of NO Xplode from BSN.
I've looked into the test stuff. I decided against it for now.
Precision Engineered Test Stack.
trouble posting link.
aces, what does that bsn product do for you ? that one worries me more than this one does.
trouble posting link.
aces, what does that bsn product do for you ? that one worries me more than this one does.
The NO Xplode has a few things in it but mainly it is a Nitric Oxide Stimulant. There is some creatine in it as well.
For me it just makes me want to attack the wieghts. I can lift a lot more on this stuff. We've been lifting for years now. So I know this stuff is the real deal. Oddly enough if you are hung over, this is a great pick me up.
For me it just makes me want to attack the wieghts. I can lift a lot more on this stuff. We've been lifting for years now. So I know this stuff is the real deal. Oddly enough if you are hung over, this is a great pick me up.
Elvia, I could go into a lot of things with you but in my opinion I don't think that stuff is any big deal.
I know exactly what you want to do but here's what you have to look at. That stuff raises test but blocks estro. That's good and all BUTTTTTT you can only raise your test so far. You have free test and total test. Now you may raise your test but it's not going to be freee so it's really no good to you. You want a product that frees up your test.
This is totally my opinion but it's based on years of using these products. There are two I would take that are natural(not going to mess with your hormones like your friends Tren product). One is Diesel (http://www.nutraplanet.com/product/get-diesel/diesel-test-hardcore-120-tabs.html), this is the best in my opinion for what you're looking for. There is another company call Primordial Performance(I think this is the spelling) and they have a topical spray that raises your test. I haven't personally tried it but I have several friends that said it's very good.(I have tried several of their other products and I have nothing but great things to say about them)
Someone mentioned NO Explode. This is a staple for me, I have to use it to workout anymore. It has creatine in it so you don't have to use a separate creatine but mainly gives you energy and a great focus while lifting. Your recovery time is also helped which is always big. NO Explode and one of the products listed above and you'll be feeling very good in the gym. Take some protein within 30 minutes post workout and you can't do much better.(outside of your diet which is always the most important thing).
I'm writing this in a hurry so if I missed anything just ask. I posted, I think in Woodson's thread, about how to raise your test with your own products if you want to check it out.
I know exactly what you want to do but here's what you have to look at. That stuff raises test but blocks estro. That's good and all BUTTTTTT you can only raise your test so far. You have free test and total test. Now you may raise your test but it's not going to be freee so it's really no good to you. You want a product that frees up your test.
This is totally my opinion but it's based on years of using these products. There are two I would take that are natural(not going to mess with your hormones like your friends Tren product). One is Diesel (http://www.nutraplanet.com/product/get-diesel/diesel-test-hardcore-120-tabs.html), this is the best in my opinion for what you're looking for. There is another company call Primordial Performance(I think this is the spelling) and they have a topical spray that raises your test. I haven't personally tried it but I have several friends that said it's very good.(I have tried several of their other products and I have nothing but great things to say about them)
Someone mentioned NO Explode. This is a staple for me, I have to use it to workout anymore. It has creatine in it so you don't have to use a separate creatine but mainly gives you energy and a great focus while lifting. Your recovery time is also helped which is always big. NO Explode and one of the products listed above and you'll be feeling very good in the gym. Take some protein within 30 minutes post workout and you can't do much better.(outside of your diet which is always the most important thing).
I'm writing this in a hurry so if I missed anything just ask. I posted, I think in Woodson's thread, about how to raise your test with your own products if you want to check it out.
Also, if you want to go the hormone route just let me know. There are some aweomse products out there that rival using injectable steroids.
Also, no need for milk thistle for what your'e talking about. You would want to use that if you're using a methylated product. They make these products methylated because it helps the product get through the liver without being broken down but in turn hurts your liver, thus you use something like milk thistle to keep your liver enzymes down.
Also, no need for milk thistle for what your'e talking about. You would want to use that if you're using a methylated product. They make these products methylated because it helps the product get through the liver without being broken down but in turn hurts your liver, thus you use something like milk thistle to keep your liver enzymes down.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
i will look into the diesel and the other. i have done my research on NO explode and was concerned that it would cause blood pressure issues. i had high bp, but canceling the habitual drinking appears to have been the culprit. i know that my sleep,diet, and exercise have all improved as well.
i am 35, so the NO may affect me differently (i have no clue).
i only take creatine on the days that i lift- 1hr b4. this combats fatigue in a major way.
protein shake for breakfast every day - includes skim milk, banana, berries, and sometimes low fat yogurt. after workout most days, but sometimes i go straight to high protein dinner.
i will look into the diesel and the other. i have done my research on NO explode and was concerned that it would cause blood pressure issues. i had high bp, but canceling the habitual drinking appears to have been the culprit. i know that my sleep,diet, and exercise have all improved as well.
i am 35, so the NO may affect me differently (i have no clue).
i only take creatine on the days that i lift- 1hr b4. this combats fatigue in a major way.
protein shake for breakfast every day - includes skim milk, banana, berries, and sometimes low fat yogurt. after workout most days, but sometimes i go straight to high protein dinner.
I'm 37 so I'm not sure NO would do anything different. I will say it does raise BP because of the strong stimulants in it. There are a lot of other products that are very good for pre workout. I think the best one that isn't as strong on the stimulant side is USP labs jacked. It's a lot cheaper than NO as well.
You should take your creatine everyday, even non workout days.
If you're worried about your BP, take hawthorne berry. It's a natural product, very cheap and very effective.
At 35 you definitely will feel a product that raises your test. Young guys won't tell a difference because their test is already so high but for guys our age there is a definite difference. It gives you the alpha male feeling, especially while working out.
You should take your creatine everyday, even non workout days.
If you're worried about your BP, take hawthorne berry. It's a natural product, very cheap and very effective.
At 35 you definitely will feel a product that raises your test. Young guys won't tell a difference because their test is already so high but for guys our age there is a definite difference. It gives you the alpha male feeling, especially while working out.
again appreciate all of the info.
is there a protein powder that you have found to be more beneficial .
i am currently using an eas product.
is there a protein powder that you have found to be more beneficial .
i am currently using an eas product.
I've used many proteins. This one seems to work the best for me.
http://www.optimumnutrition.com/products/100-whey-gold-standard-p-201.html
I'll be taking my NO Xplode in about 2 hours. Can't wait. First bench night of the week.
I agree with Pocket Aces, ON has good protein. I'll be honest, unless you're really getting into some serious body building almost all proteins you can buy will be ok.
It sounds like you're wanting to trim down and get a little tighter. If so, I would watch your carb intake and if that's the case then go with a low carb protein.
It sounds like you're wanting to trim down and get a little tighter. If so, I would watch your carb intake and if that's the case then go with a low carb protein.
Oh yeah, if you do take NO Explode be very careful.
My friends and I like to call it the NO Exploates. It will leave you running to the restroom as quickly as you can. Seriously the stimulant in it is VERY strong if you're not use to it.
My friends and I like to call it the NO Exploates. It will leave you running to the restroom as quickly as you can. Seriously the stimulant in it is VERY strong if you're not use to it.
I agree. Talk to your Dr. or something before you try it. Especially if you have high blood pressure.
When I take more than one scoop of the stuff I am up until 2am. It works too well sometimes.
Have to agree, guys about the NO explode.
I tried it about 4 mths ago and couldn't even finish it as it really had my ass going. it just made me feel wierd. I gave the rest to a friend of mine who trains with MMA guys. Just start slowly.
I tried it about 4 mths ago and couldn't even finish it as it really had my ass going. it just made me feel wierd. I gave the rest to a friend of mine who trains with MMA guys. Just start slowly.
