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Since when does "thinking for yourself" mean blurting out vapid assertions and insults and bashing one of the few conscientious posters that actually presents supportive documentation to his posts? There are no legal experts backing Wilson as I don't believe there's been a vote or even a straw poll yet for that.
So it seems that as long as an expert's, those with actual degrees and such in the field, thought process runs congruent to yours they aren't morons? If they run tangent to yours, they're morons? Maybe, just maybe, cherry blaster is in the education and research field so providing documentation to support his point would be something he not only finds important, but the standard and commonplace.

What I do find a bit odd is you bitching about someone trying to make a point that goes the extra mile to provide actual documentation and evidence to support it. Your assertions have absolutely zero support from anywhere. You even went so far as to ask cherry blaster to do it for you via Google.
I have to tell you, looking down your nose at someone that is clearly more versed and knowledgeable than yourself on a certain subject is usually indicative of a narcissist that knows they're wrong. One could even say that is somewhat moronic.

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first of all, you calling someone a narcissist is probably the single most hypocritical and hilarious comment i've read here for a while. so hats off to you for that one.

secondly, I didn't insult him. I asked if he ever posts his own thought or opinion instead of copy/pasting some piece off a different website every single time a thread like this comes up. again, you having a go at someone for "insulting" someone else is not only hypocritical, but a bit comical seeing as every post you make towards hedgehog you start off with a blow about his weight, appearance, education, or parenting skills.

thirdly, you are always one who rants about the media and how they are always biased and have one agenda. well, guess what platform Lisa Bloom uses to express her opinion? I guess that if a particular media have views congruent with yours than its fine and none of that applies anymore. I wonder what Lisa Bloom thinks about pitbulls.

there are plenty of people who back Michael Brown who arent morons, but Lisa Bloom, IMO, isnt one of them. if youre a big Lisa Bloom fan, well thats great.

I have no desire do discuss the issue with you though. you are entrenched in your views which of course, as always, is the only correct view on anything and everything.
 

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first of all, you calling someone a narcissist is probably the single most hypocritical and hilarious comment i've read here for a while. so hats off to you for that one.

secondly, I didn't insult him. I asked if he ever posts his own thought or opinion instead of copy/pasting some piece off a different website every single time a thread like this comes up. again, you having a go at someone for "insulting" someone else is not only hypocritical, but a bit comical seeing as every post you make towards hedgehog you start off with a blow about his weight, appearance, education, or parenting skills.

thirdly, you are always one who rants about the media and how they are always biased and have one agenda. well, guess what platform Lisa Bloom uses to express her opinion? I guess that if a particular media have views congruent with yours than its fine and none of that applies anymore. I wonder what Lisa Bloom thinks about pitbulls.

there are plenty of people who back Michael Brown who arent morons, but Lisa Bloom, IMO, isnt one of them. if youre a big Lisa Bloom fan, well thats great.

I have no desire do discuss the issue with you though. you are entrenched in your views which of course, as always, is the only correct view on anything and everything.
You said "you can think for yourself" which insinuated he can't. You also intimated that he had no original thought. Is right there in black and white.
I used to defend hedge until he arbitrarily attacked me in the politics forum calling me the biggest racist on this site. I had not visited that forum in some time and I was actually completely unaware of his post until someone really did text me and inform me of it. After that, he and I traded hatred since. He is overweight, a bigot, a racist, and lacks common sense. None of those are insults as there is a mountain of supporting evidence to every end of those assertions.

As far as Linda Bloom goes, I've never heard of her. Never seen her, never read anything by her, but I'm guessing that if you're a member of the media, a politician, pundit, activist, reporter, journalist, town crier, televangelist, radio deejay, talk show host, or a variety of other professions, I'm fairly sure your "message" is going to be heard the best via media outlets. I have a problem with media outlets that have an agenda to mislead or misinform the public, obfuscate the facts in order to influence a certain line of thought. So I don't really see the relevance in your statements concerning Bloom or the media.
You can call me whatever you want and then act like you don't want to argue with me because I'm so this or that, whatever. That really is a poorly veiled excuse airportis. You don't want to discuss it because you were wrong and you know it.
Lastly, I present my views on here all the time and I'm steadfast with my perspective on a few subjects that I'm passionate about. So what? I always present those views based on personal knowledge or training, personal experiences or I have reasonably educated myself enough on the subject to present an opinion or state a fact. I don't disregard the facts of any subject simply because I think someone is a moron.
What I can't understand is how me calling for fair, unbiased, and equitable justice for everyone is so contrary to your views or somehow symptomatic of narcissistic tendencies?
 

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Michael Brown?s Mother Could Face Felony Theft Charges: Report

Leslie McSpadden has been accused by her ex mother-in-law of leading a mob to rob her.



By: The Root Staff

Posted: Nov. 6 2014 3:25 PM


As the nation waits for possible charges to be brought against Darren Wilson, the police officer who killed Michael Brown in Ferguson, Mo., Brown?s mother may be facing charges of her own.


Leslie McSpadden has been accused of leading others to attack and steal money from a group selling ?Justice for Mike Brown? merchandise. If charged, McSpadden could face felony armed-robbery charges, reports the New York Daily News.


One of the people included in the group that was attacked was McSpadden?s former mother-in-law, Pearlie Gordon. Gordon claims that she was knocked down by the group that McSpadden led. In total, roughly $2,000 in merchandise and cash was taken by the group.


?You can?t sell this s--t,? Gordon claims McSpadden told her during the altercation.


The Ferguson, Mo., Police Department is currently investigating these claims and will then decide whether to bring charges against McSpadden.
 
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Why is MSNBC still interviewing Dorian Johnson? [Michael Brown's Partner in Crime]
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MSNBC evening host Chris Hayes recorded yet another interview on the Ferguson situation yesterday, this time with Michael Brown?s friend and fellow convenience store robber Dorian Johnson. Early on, he begins reading selected excerpts from the testimony of Officer Darren Wilson and then asking Johnson to give his version of events. One of the early examples is where Hayes reads Wilson?s description of how it all started. (Go to roughly the three minute mark in the linked video for this. I won?t embed it here for you, as it is set to autoplay only.)


CHRIS HAYES: [Officer Wilson] says, ?Why don?t you guys walk on the sidewalk.? Now, is that what he said to you?

DORIAN JOHNSON: He did not say that to me. He did not say you can walk on the sidewalk. He said you get the F on the sidewalk. His exact words to me.

CH: So that?s a key difference. From what you testified, from the beginning this was a a hostile interaction. It was get the F up on the sidewalk.

DJ: Right.

CH: That happens here. Now here?s another piece of testimony. He backs his car in reverse. Right here. Right? And he says he tries to open the door and Mike Brown slams the door shut and says what the F are you going to do about it. Shuts my door. Slams it shut. Is that what you saw happen?

DJ: That?s not what I saw happen.

It goes on at great length from there with a rather obvious theme and purpose. Johnson is being given the opportunity to try to discredit the testimony of Officer Wilson and cast more doubt on the Grand Jury proceedings, speaking as the only living eye witness on the scene. But it certainly seems odd that Hayes would go to such great lengths to set up and air this interview without first mentioning some key facts about his interview subject.

It was his own network, back on August 12th of this year, who published the first accounting of the events of that day provided by Dorian Johnson. Does Chris Hayes recall what he said at that time?


?They?re not wrestling so much as his arm went from his throat to now clenched on his shirt,? Johnson explained of the scene between Brown and the officer. ?It?s like tug of war. He?s trying to pull him in. He?s pulling away, that?s when I heard, ?I?m gonna shoot you.??

At that moment, Johnson says he fixed his gaze on the officer to see if he was pulling a stun gun or a real gun. That?s when he saw the muzzle of the officer?s gun.

?I seen the barrel of the gun pointed at my friend,? he said. ?He had it pointed at him and said ?I?ll shoot,? one more time.?

A second later Johnson said he heard the first shot go off.

?I seen the fire come out of the barrell,? he said. ?I could see so vividly what was going on because I was so close.?

Johnson is lying. We now know from forensic evidence that there were two shots and they did not go out the window. One of them was embedded inside the vehicle. And in order for us to believe this tale, we would have to accept that a trained law enforcement officer was such an incredibly bad shot that he was unable to aim his weapon out the window of the cruiser without shooting his own door.


Brown and Johnson took off running together. There were three cars lined up along the side of the street. Johnson says he ducked behind the first car, whose two passengers were screaming. Crouching down a bit, he watched Brown run past.

?Keep running, bro!,? he said Brown yelled. Then Brown yelled it a second time. Those would be the last words Johnson?s friend, ?Big Mike,? would ever say to him.

Brown made it past the third car. Then, ?blam!? the officer took his second shot, striking Brown in the back. At that point, Johnson says Brown stopped, turned with his hands up and said ?I don?t have a gun, stop shooting!?

Johnson is lying. Multiple autopsies showed that Brown was never shot in the back.


By that point, Johnson says the officer and Brown were face-to-face. The officer then fired several more shots. Johnson described watching Brown go from standing with his hands up to crumbling to the ground and curling into a fetal position.

Johnson is lying. The blood evidence shows that after they ran for some distance, Brown turned and traveled at least 21 feet back in the direction of Wilson. None of the above items require us to rely on he said she said testimony from various people. It?s just the evidence found on the scene.

Now, with all of that in mind, why is Chris Hayes filling the airwaves with more tripe from Dorian Johnson? The man is a proven liar, not only in this instance, but from his rap sheet which includes a previous conviction for lying to the police. Much has been made of the credibility of various witnesses, including Darren Wilson. And it is absolutely true that Officer Wilson as an interested witness, as the legal eagles say, meaning that he had a vested interest in not being indicted. The jury was instructed to take that into account.

But the credibility question goes both ways. All of these questions work to muddy the waters and feed into unrest. While the truth certainly should be discovered, is there no point at which someone?s credibility sinks to the point where reporters on cable news networks will no longer trot them out and treat their claims with the same level of credibility we assign to anyone else? Dorian Johnson, once again, is a serial liar. This has been proven over and over again. But he?s still somehow a media star worthy of refuting a police officer?s testimony on national television? Are we to believe that he is now speaking one or two segments of absolute truth sprinkled in with the web of mendacity he?s woven up until now?

This interview is not offering clarity, seeking the truth or contributing to the public discussion. It?s the broadcasting and legitimizing of discredited lies from a discredited liar. Sadly, those comments will be taken as yet more ?proof? that the liberals currently taking to the streets are justified in their righteous indignation.
 

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Dorian Johnson: Darren Wilson Allies Reportedly Fighting For Perjury Charges Against Michael Brown?s Friend


Dorian Johnson

Michael Brown supporters reportedly aren?t the only people seeking justice. Apparently, those in support of Darren Wilson still aren?t pleased with some of the alleged details in the controversial case.


According to The Daily Mail, allies of the former Ferguson police officer are reportedly fighting for perjury charges to be brought against Michael Brown?s friend Dorian Johnson. For those who don?t remember, Dorian ?Hands, Up Don?t Shoot? Johnson was the key witness with Brown at the time of the altercation that took place between Brown and Wilson. He claimed Brown had his hands up when Wilson fired at him.

Johnson has done several television interviews recounting the series of events that led to Brown?s untimely death. His claims sparked the national ?Hands Up, Don?t Shoot? protests that have taken place around the country. However, he?s also reportedly changed his story numerous times, which leads many to believe he purposely fabricated his account of the incident. Now, Wilson?s supporters want answers.



The suggestion for charges to be brought against Johnson follows the grand jury?s decision not to indict Wilson for Brown?s murder. Since Wilson?s story is believed to be accurate, his allies insist Johnson should face perjury charges for his inaccurate account of the series of events that took place. However, that may be a difficult feat.

A friend of Wilson?s released a statement on behalf of his supporters, reports Breitbart. The statement cites a number of reasons why they feel Johnson should be charged.

Here?s the statement.


?Dorian Johnson is the one who started it all. If it was up to me he should be charged. ?He got right on CNN, he got right on TV and started blabbering his mouth off. I could tell by his voice that he was lying,? Wilson?s friend said. ?

?In his TV interviews after Brown?s death on CNN and MSNBC, Johnson said that Wilson told him and Brown to ?get the f? onto the sidewalk'?as he drove past in his police SUV.?

Johnson also admitted he fled the scene following Brown?s death to run home and change his clothing in an effort to disguise himself so police wouldn?t recognize him and arrest him for robbery. Although his actions were questionable, he recently spoke out with his sentiments of the grand jury?s decision. Following the announcement of the decision on Monday, Nov. 24, Johnson spoke with ABC News.

Here?s what he had to say.


?No indictment means no justice,? Johnson said. ?It?s hurtful to think that someone can be murdered and, you know, their killer walks away free,? he said. ?The fight doesn?t stop here,? he said. ?I don?t condone violence on no type of level, but like I said, I do understand the anger. I feel the same anger they are feeling.?

Do you think charges should be brought against Dorian Johnson? Share your thoughts

Read more at http://www.inquisitr.com/1639235/do...st-michael-browns-friend/#UMOZ2dFvs9Zxzj7u.99
 

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Dorian Johnson, the friend of Michael Brown who claims he witnessed the police shooting death of the 18-year-old in Ferguson, Missouri, has an outstanding arrest warrant for theft, according to authorities.

Barbara Schaffer, court clerk for the Municipal Court of Jefferson City, confirmed to WND there is a warrant for Johnson?s arrest for a 2011 incident. Johnson was arrested June 24, 2011, and a trial was set for July 31, 2013, but he did not appear in court, authorities said.

According to the arrest report, obtained by WND, Dorian J. Johnson, 22, was arrested June 24, 2011, by Jefferson City, Missouri, police after a report of a suspect walking away from an apartment with a package that contained a backpack. Police reported Johnson lied to them about his identity.

In an interview with WND, Johnson?s attorney, former St. Louis Mayor Freeman Bosley Jr., acknowledged his client had been arrested in Jefferson City for theft of a parcel.

Bosley insisted the case was ?resolved.?

?He was held in jail in St. Louis for 14 days, waiting on Cole County to come get him, based on the warrant,? Bosley said. ?They never came, so the city let him go.?

But Schaffer said there is an order for Johnson?s extradition if he is arrested within a 50-mile radius of Jefferson City. Ferguson, a St. Louis suburb, is more than 100 miles from Jefferson City.

Read more at http://www.wnd.com/2014/08/ferguson-shooting-witness-wanted-in-2011-case/#xlWOLkJmgk3gizut.99
 

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Here is a quote from someone who seems to have a stand on what he believes in, not just with gun rights, but on this MEDIA EVENT:


Ted Nugent

Here's the lessons from Ferguson America- Don't let your kids grow-up to be thugs who think they can steal, assault & attack cops as a way of life & badge of black (dis)honor. Don't preach your racist bullshit "no justice no peace" as blabbered by Obama's racist Czar Al Not So Sharpton & their black Klansman. When a cop tells you to get out of the middle of the street, obey him & don't attack him as brainwashed by the gangsta assholes you hang with & look up to. It's that simple unless you have no brains, no soul, no sense of decency whatsoever. And dont claim that "black lives matter" when you ignore the millions you abort & slaughter each & every day by other blacks. Those of us with a soul do indeed believe black lives matter, as all lives matter. So quit killin each other you fuckin idiots. Drive safely.
 

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Here is a quote from someone who seems to have a stand on what he believes in, not just with gun rights, but on this MEDIA EVENT:


Ted Nugent

Here's the lessons from Ferguson America- Don't let your kids grow-up to be thugs who think they can steal, assault & attack cops as a way of life & badge of black (dis)honor. Don't preach your racist bullshit "no justice no peace" as blabbered by Obama's racist Czar Al Not So Sharpton & their black Klansman. When a cop tells you to get out of the middle of the street, obey him & don't attack him as brainwashed by the gangsta assholes you hang with & look up to. It's that simple unless you have no brains, no soul, no sense of decency whatsoever. And dont claim that "black lives matter" when you ignore the millions you abort & slaughter each & every day by other blacks. Those of us with a soul do indeed believe black lives matter, as all lives matter. So quit killin each other you fuckin idiots. Drive safely.

Ted Nugent is disgusting and I hope his penis falls off. H
 

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Here is a quote from someone who seems to have a stand on what he believes in, not just with gun rights, but on this MEDIA EVENT:


Ted Nugent

Here's the lessons from Ferguson America- Don't let your kids grow-up to be thugs who think they can steal, assault & attack cops as a way of life & badge of black (dis)honor. Don't preach your racist bullshit "no justice no peace" as blabbered by Obama's racist Czar Al Not So Sharpton & their black Klansman. When a cop tells you to get out of the middle of the street, obey him & don't attack him as brainwashed by the gangsta assholes you hang with & look up to. It's that simple unless you have no brains, no soul, no sense of decency whatsoever. And dont claim that "black lives matter" when you ignore the millions you abort & slaughter each & every day by other blacks. Those of us with a soul do indeed believe black lives matter, as all lives matter. So quit killin each other you fuckin idiots. Drive safely.

Ted Nugent is disgusting and I hope his penis falls off. His opinion shouldn't mean shit to anyone.
 
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What I love about AMerica, is, I can, agree, disagree, and/or be completely neutral on what a person believes in, including Ted Nugent... I don't agree with alot of what he has to say, but I also respect he is not afraid to speak what alot of people think but wouldn't necessarily ever say....

(fyi, me posting the above statement by Teddy doesn't mean I believe or don't believe in what he says on the rant; but I do respect that he said what he felt , KNOWING it was gonna ruffle some feathers on an already volatile situation...) The situation in Ferguson, IMO, is exactly what the gov't wants to be happening, and has become a media event just like the OJ TRIAL.. N, got a similar result. Our justice system is not tried in the streets. I have no idea what testimony was said, or shown, but if we can't trust 11 fellow citizen jurors RANDOMLY PICKED to start with at least, then why don't we just start over tomorrow with wild wild west???? We must, like it or not, accept what was decided. These are the laws we the people created... (Yes, shit has gotten fucked up with some ROGUE leaders deciding the SENATE n HOUSE doesnt need to make laws anymore, because "they take too long, so I will make up my own to fit my masters" or whatever he said... But, IMO, this behavior of RIOTING n CHAOS on a something THAT IS OVER the moment the decision was made, is doing one thing, that I KNOW, NOBODY WHO IS RIOTING WANTS: IT will give the GOVT more reasons to take guns, gun rights, and more civil freedoms away from the people... This is more practice for the govt and their martial laws to implemented, tested, and a little bit closer, to complete GOVT control, IMO.....
 

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being able to think for myself. not copy/pasting huge diatribes from across the internet that back my view.

what about all the legal experts backing Darren Wilson? discrediting those? you seem really good at the google machine, so you should check those out too. :0008

My opinions are supported by statements from those who are more learned and experts in their particular field. Otherwise, my arguments would be nothing more than uninformed conjecture. Surely you learned this during your undergrad. I could further my claims by drawing solely from scholarly articles, but that would be nothing more than hubris - and probably wouldn't make much sense in this forum.

As for the legal experts backing Wilson, what would be the point since the prosecutor clearly did that from the outset - which is why he wasn't charged in the first place - and the crux of this debate.

And FDC - thanks for the massive support, brother! LOL

Peace! :)
 

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My opinions are supported by statements from those who are more learned and experts in their particular field. Otherwise, my arguments would be nothing more than uninformed conjecture. Surely you learned this during your undergrad. I could further my claims by drawing solely from scholarly articles, but that would be nothing more than hubris - and probably wouldn't make much sense in this forum.

As for the legal experts backing Wilson, what would be the point since the prosecutor clearly did that from the outset - which is why he wasn't charged in the first place - and the crux of this debate.

And FDC - thanks for the massive support, brother! LOL

Peace! :)
How could you and the other left wing free thinkers on this site be disappointed with the prosecutor? He is a Democrat. This has to be the fault of some dastardly Republican.
 

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Sorry but I disagree that you have to choose a side. I don't agree with Brown's actions or condone them. He should have been arrested if he committed a robbery, not shot at ten times. The cop should have been doing his job, I applaud him for it, however if he shot the kid and lied about the facts, motive, or his intent, if he ever violated Brown's or anyone's civil liberties, then he deserves to be charged. That's it. "Picking sides" is just ignoring the issue in my opinion. That's not really any side at all.


He wasn't shot for committing a robbery, yet you keep saying that.


It's also ridiculous to say there are no sides. Every single story on this incident has included, "white cop shoots unarmed black boy". Why are the colors important? Because THAT'S what makes news in this country.

If Wilson had shot Mike Oblonski, 10 people wouldn't have given a fuck! In all honesty, I think you know that, too.
 

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So many angry protesters, so many upset with what has happened to their race, so many chanting for change.....Yet how many of these wonderful people do you see racing to sign up at the Police Academy to help make that change they are demanding.......exactly, none......:0008
 
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