Who does not judge is the better question.Were not suppose to unless your an athiest then its fair game.Realisticly we judge everybody because we live in the flesh.
Another state just doesn't get it!
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Who does not judge is the better question.Were not suppose to unless your an athiest then its fair game.Realisticly we judge everybody because we live in the flesh.
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This attempt at communication has to be tough for a teacher, such as Chadman, to deal with.
Why do you believe homosexuality is a preference over being genetic?
When did you choose? I never chose, it just happened that I liked chicks. The thought of me having sex with a man makes me a bit nauseated but just because that is my sexual preference I realize that others have the right to have their's.
Furthermore, who cares if homosexuality is a preference, more power to them,, and I would be willing to bet that if homosexuality was all preference based, there would be a lot more of it.
When did you choose? I never chose, it just happened that I liked chicks. The thought of me having sex with a man makes me a bit nauseated but just because that is my sexual preference I realize that others have the right to have their's.
Furthermore, who cares if homosexuality is a preference, more power to them,, and I would be willing to bet that if homosexuality was all preference based, there would be a lot more of it.
Im kinda confused here.It takes all kinds meaning who are good or bad people.You seem to be stereotyping.
Besides being nice doesn't guarentee you a space in the kingdom.
Also I don't agree with this at all.The bible study I attend of 12 people are all good people.Were not perfect and in fact we need constant food(the bible)to keep us on the narrow path.
It is not easy.I don't know many gay people like I do my study group.Now remember their not all from the same church which is good IMO bc a church as a unit is bound to lose its way,just read Pauls letters for proof.There lies the surpremacy of GOD to bring the church back to reality.
You seem to think that Christians must live up to this standard or their hypocrytes in their beliefs,this is just an uneducated assumption on your part due to a lack of knowledge about GOD.
Romans 3:10 tells us there is no one righteous,not one.http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=romans 3:10&version=NIV
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It does take all kinds. I agree with that. I just don't happen to think that my "kind" is any better than any other kind. I don't think that just because someone chooses to worship in a certain way, believes in a book that is partially and admittedly written by some as fictional representations and altered truths, and has faith that something is the way they HOPE it is, that that makes them any better than say, someone who is gay. I don't think that being gay makes someone good or bad. How they act and treat others? Yes, I think that makes them "good" or "bad."
But that doesn't make my OPINION right, either. I just think it's interesting that people who believe in their own religion think that other religions are not as valuable or worthy. I think it's fine to believe whatever you want - but when you judge others to the standard you choose to believe in - I think that is wrong.
To me, anyone who can't see that isn't being truthful or fair. They are being judgmental, yes. But fair? I don't see how.
For the life of me, I cannot see how "people like you" can think that people who are gay would "choose" to live life under that kind of disrespect, ignorance and ridicule. Why would they? Does that make any sense?
And that's the key, isn't it?
Rusty thinks he knows, better than you, better than anyone, anywhere, what is right and what isn't.
Rusty has been brainwashed into thinking the he knows the truth, and everyone who doesn't see things his way is ignorant and condemned to Hell for eternity.
Gag a maggot. :facepalm:
Rusty - I see that you tell me to read Paul's letters "for proof" and ask me to read a link to the Bible as further proof of something else. I'm sorry, but the Bible is not proof of anything, it's just a collection of beliefs and stories from those who believed a certain way, and you choose to agree with in principle.
I understand how highly you and many others regard this book, and that is terrific. I have studied it and questioned it, and received answers about it from various pastors and clergy. But it does not serve as any real kind of proof of much of anything. It is something you can point to as the word of someone or something you personally believe in. You have faith. You do not really have proof. I'm in no way ridiculing it, and I know you think less of me for saying that. You also think that you are superior to me and others because of that, in many ways. I guess that makes you feel better about yourself. So be it.
How many original books containing individual's perceptions on history were proven to be factually incorrect, or proven to have left parts of history out of their reports? A lot. We're constantly learning more about our world, and learning that things we believed in were not true, or were different. It's called evolving.
I understand how you could worry about the values and morals of many today. Some of those things do affect you in some ways. But many of them don't, and I just don't feel that you have a right to make decisions for other people that do not affect you. Do you honestly think that everyone in the world should believe in the same things that you believe in? Would you believe the same things that others believe in, if you didn't agree with them? I think it's clear that you don't.
I understand how highly you and many others regard this book, and that is terrific. I have studied it and questioned it, and received answers about it from various pastors and clergy. But it does not serve as any real kind of proof of much of anything. It is something you can point to as the word of someone or something you personally believe in. You have faith. You do not really have proof. I'm in no way ridiculing it, and I know you think less of me for saying that. You also think that you are superior to me and others because of that, in many ways. I guess that makes you feel better about yourself. So be it.
How many original books containing individual's perceptions on history were proven to be factually incorrect, or proven to have left parts of history out of their reports? A lot. We're constantly learning more about our world, and learning that things we believed in were not true, or were different. It's called evolving.
I understand how you could worry about the values and morals of many today. Some of those things do affect you in some ways. But many of them don't, and I just don't feel that you have a right to make decisions for other people that do not affect you. Do you honestly think that everyone in the world should believe in the same things that you believe in? Would you believe the same things that others believe in, if you didn't agree with them? I think it's clear that you don't.
I don't know what to say.Romans 3:10 says not one man is righteous,not one.How you get I'm superior to anyone out of that is beyound me.
Also,I'm just curious where did you get the proof that the Old Testament is false history?Seriously bc I never have heard such a thing.I know people have ridiculed it as fantasyland,but I never heard there was solid proof to debunk not only GODS word,but his work also.
I didn't say the Bible was false history. In any way. Not sure how you got that. I'm saying in my opinion it is not proof of anything, and when people say to read a part of it as proof of something, I don't really agree with that valuation of it. You do, because you personally have faith in it. So be it. It works for you, but you feel the need to convince others it's true and factual. That's the difference.
And I do think that you, and many other devout religious people do consider themselves superior to those who do not believe the same things they do. Otherwise, why would you spend so much time on it, and so much time pointing out the failures and shortcomings of other people's "choices" or the way they live?
And I do think that you, and many other devout religious people do consider themselves superior to those who do not believe the same things they do. Otherwise, why would you spend so much time on it, and so much time pointing out the failures and shortcomings of other people's "choices" or the way they live?
Chad,I'm more concrened about my own failures and shortcomings than anyone elses.Leading a Christian life is not easy bc were living in the flesh.
I fall short all the time.That's the part I think your not getting or im not expaining it correctly.I backslide ,its normal.Have a good 4th.
