Anyone else excited about tomorrow?
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not much.
Just a buncha politicians. Who can get excited about them?
Reminds me of H. L. Mencken's description of the typical politician:
He is a man who has lied and dissembled, and a man who has crawled. He knows the taste of boot-polish. He has suffered kicks in the tonneau of his pantaloons. He has taken orders from his superiors in knavery and he has wooed and flattered his inferiors in sense. His public life is an endless series of evasions and false pretenses. He is willing to embrace any issue, however idiotic, that will get him votes, and he is willing to sacrifice any principle, however sound, that will lose them for him.
I do not describe the democratic politician at his inordinate worst; I describe him as he is encountered in the full sunshine of normalcy. He may be, on the one hand, a cross-roads idler striving to get into the State Legislature by grace of the local mortgage-sharks and evangelical clergy, or he may be, on the other, the President of the United States.
It is almost an axiom that no man may make a career in politics in the Republic without stooping to such ignobility: it is as necessary as a loud voice. Now and then, to be sure, a man of sounder self-respect may make a beginning, but he seldom gets very far. Those who survive are nearly all tarred, soon or late, with the same stick. They are men who, at some time or other, have compromised with their honour, either by swallowing their convictions or by whooping for what they believe to be untrue.
They are in the position of the chorus girl who, in order to get her humble job, has had to admit the manager to her person. And the old birds among them, like chorus girls of long experience come to regard the business resignedly and even complacently. It is the price that a man who loves the clapper-clawing of the vulgar must pay for it under the democratic system. He becomes a coward and a trimmer ex-officio. Where his dignity was in the days of his innocence there is now only a vacuum in the wastes of his subconscious. Vanity remains to him, but not pride.
Just a buncha politicians. Who can get excited about them?
Reminds me of H. L. Mencken's description of the typical politician:
He is a man who has lied and dissembled, and a man who has crawled. He knows the taste of boot-polish. He has suffered kicks in the tonneau of his pantaloons. He has taken orders from his superiors in knavery and he has wooed and flattered his inferiors in sense. His public life is an endless series of evasions and false pretenses. He is willing to embrace any issue, however idiotic, that will get him votes, and he is willing to sacrifice any principle, however sound, that will lose them for him.
I do not describe the democratic politician at his inordinate worst; I describe him as he is encountered in the full sunshine of normalcy. He may be, on the one hand, a cross-roads idler striving to get into the State Legislature by grace of the local mortgage-sharks and evangelical clergy, or he may be, on the other, the President of the United States.
It is almost an axiom that no man may make a career in politics in the Republic without stooping to such ignobility: it is as necessary as a loud voice. Now and then, to be sure, a man of sounder self-respect may make a beginning, but he seldom gets very far. Those who survive are nearly all tarred, soon or late, with the same stick. They are men who, at some time or other, have compromised with their honour, either by swallowing their convictions or by whooping for what they believe to be untrue.
They are in the position of the chorus girl who, in order to get her humble job, has had to admit the manager to her person. And the old birds among them, like chorus girls of long experience come to regard the business resignedly and even complacently. It is the price that a man who loves the clapper-clawing of the vulgar must pay for it under the democratic system. He becomes a coward and a trimmer ex-officio. Where his dignity was in the days of his innocence there is now only a vacuum in the wastes of his subconscious. Vanity remains to him, but not pride.
Excited that the commercials will stop and my mailbox will stop getting jammed up with mailers and I don't have to shred their garbage every day.
i might be getting close to 50 calls a day. almost makes ya not want to vote. I answered a few and then they call again. :facepalm:
That's when you either:
A) Interogate them
B) Answer the phone saying, Hello, hello, hello, WOULD YOU FUCKING SAY SOMETHING !
C) Answer the phone like this: Dominos Pizza, home of the world famous 30 min delivery, can I take your order please.
D) Or come up with something else creative :SIB
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I have not one political phone call :shrug:
Joker- As I came to work this morning I couldn't believe interesction of Cave Mill rd and Scottville rd.
Conway and Paul people must have had a sign war. Was about 40 signs there bout evenly divided.
Yep pretty excited about election. Reason is we will no longer have one party dictating future of all. Wish there was some way they could pass bill that no one party could make the rules that would dictate law of land.
Joker- As I came to work this morning I couldn't believe interesction of Cave Mill rd and Scottville rd.
Conway and Paul people must have had a sign war. Was about 40 signs there bout evenly divided.
Yep pretty excited about election. Reason is we will no longer have one party dictating future of all. Wish there was some way they could pass bill that no one party could make the rules that would dictate law of land.
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Hopefully, the people will come out and speak out by voting.
My polling station in Atlanta had only seen 500+ today as of 1 PM. Hopefully a greater turn out after work.
Hopefully, the people will come out and speak out by voting.
My polling station in Atlanta had only seen 500+ today as of 1 PM. Hopefully a greater turn out after work.
I used to hear all the time that democracy was the way to go. We wanted all countrys to be free. Anything we could do to help, we would do.
Including throwing millions at them or starting wars.
But when you look at it now. What other country in the world could possibly be like our goverment ?
Congress, Senate, President, all fighting over getting elected, passing bills, and making things hard as gridlock. If we knew half of the things that went on behind closed doors with payoffs, under the table deals, and money going in and out of campaign coffers, we would just want to scream.
In the end it has been the American people that get screwed over many many times over the last 50 years. Nothing has really changed for the better. We just go along with the same fighting crap we always have. What kind of example is this for our children to take from ? How could they learn anything from what they see on the news day in and day out ?
I wouldnt wish our goverment and our ways on any other country in the world.
It just doesnt work.
And that is one sad state of affairs.
Including throwing millions at them or starting wars.
But when you look at it now. What other country in the world could possibly be like our goverment ?
Congress, Senate, President, all fighting over getting elected, passing bills, and making things hard as gridlock. If we knew half of the things that went on behind closed doors with payoffs, under the table deals, and money going in and out of campaign coffers, we would just want to scream.
In the end it has been the American people that get screwed over many many times over the last 50 years. Nothing has really changed for the better. We just go along with the same fighting crap we always have. What kind of example is this for our children to take from ? How could they learn anything from what they see on the news day in and day out ?
I wouldnt wish our goverment and our ways on any other country in the world.
It just doesnt work.
And that is one sad state of affairs.
what would you prefer,scottie?........a hugo chavez or cuban-style dictatorship?.....a chinese-style communist dictatorship?...a theocracy?...
this is how the system works......
the people are in the process of correcting a mistake(one party rule)....
if you`re a democrat and a bill clinton fan,then you have to understand that the country worked pretty well with a dem president and a republican controlled congress.....
it ain`t perfect.....people aren`t perfect....but on the whole,it`s worked pretty damned well for over 200 years...
ying and yang.....
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I didn't vote for ya
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I am just saying that the process has run its course. It aint working for Americans anymore.
If you think that things are good or will get better , you are kidding yourself.
I dont know the answers but I think there will be changes in the next 10 years that will change the course of those that bode romance.
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A benevolent dictatorship would be fine by me. I'm more informed about what I'm voting for than most and I didn't know half of the races I was voting for. So I voted all Dems. . . unless there was a candidate named Jack. . . .I always trust a guy named Jack
In my opinion, the only way we will truly start making inroads to this issue is to install term limits, and lessen private funding of elections. Neither elected body is for term limits, and conservatives in particular (IMO) are against public financing of elections, probably because Unions are allowed to fund elections, and I can also see how that's an issue. But to open up our election system to unmonitored private funding is NOT the answer. Things will get much worse because of that, IMO. Talk about self-serving politics... I do understand why Union donations makes more sense from a personal angle than corporate donations, though. But that's just me. While I don't think public financing of elections would be perfect, I think it would eliminate a lot of our current problems, and I KNOW that term limits would eliminate a lot more. Heck, let the people run again after being out of office for one term, if necessary. Just don't have the one man/woman for life representation thing going on. That's all about what can I grab for my constituents so I can keep my job, not what's best for the common good and country.
All that being said, I agree that a one party dominance of our legislative system is not beneficial to the country as a whole, and think if the House goes to the republicans (as it is supposed to) it will be a better thing for the country. It will cause much more gridlock at a critical time in our country, but that's probably a good thing. I guess we'll see how much of a groundswell shows up today. It would be something if the Senate flopped over, but I doubt that will happen.
All that being said, I agree that a one party dominance of our legislative system is not beneficial to the country as a whole, and think if the House goes to the republicans (as it is supposed to) it will be a better thing for the country. It will cause much more gridlock at a critical time in our country, but that's probably a good thing. I guess we'll see how much of a groundswell shows up today. It would be something if the Senate flopped over, but I doubt that will happen.
