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BobbyBlueChip said:
1)He's been very critical of Clinton and Bush. You'd like him half the time.



2)There's not one economist that would support that cause and effect.



nope

3)Watch Clark - you'll like him. You'd see that our military leaders are emphasizing Afghanistan, noting the problems on the Pakistan border and looking to take the attack there (something we've done 4 times since Hussein was chasticed for suggesting it) and

4)you'll also note that our government will be sitting down with Iran over their nuclear program.

All point Hussein made a year ago.

Imaging how great he'll be once he gets some "experience"
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1)other than giving the farm to china,i never complained to much about bill....

2)i disagree...not only did bush mention drilling he lifted the presidential ban....it`s not a coincidence...and it`s not a coincidence that the stock market had a nice bump...

all spokes in the wheel..

3)clarke`s a disigenuous hack who is all about discrediting the administration...he has about as much credibility as spongy...the media focus on afghanistan is because they can no longer focus on iraq....things are looking much to positive...america`s defeat is their agenda(as long as a republican occupies the w.h.)...

if the surge hadn`t been successful...if we weren`t on the verge of a potential "victory" (by anyones measure),we`d still be hearing about iraq...

isn`t it strange how iraq is seldom on the front page these days?....

and btw...there will be no winner in afghanistan...ask the russians...geographically it`s impossible to clean out al qaeda and the taliban...like a warehouse filled with roaches...you`d have to burn the warehouse to the ground and even then,you wouldn`t wipe them out...all you can hope to do is keep em on the run...keep em occupied...

and thankfully,the pakistanis and some allies are helping do just that..


4)the europeans have been
"negotiating" with iran for a decade...and they`ve accomplished zilch...i wish i could get odds on the result of these "negotiations"...

bock cetainly was right about the surge,though,wasn`t he?...the last of the "surge" troop deployment departed iraq today....

i`m sure we`re all ecstatic about the profound effectiveness of the "surge"....:142squint

:D



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BobbyBlueChip said:
Would you define what victory is? If you have time
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actually,we`re in the process of winning the second iraq war....

we won the first war, against saddam hussein and the ba'athists, in the first three weeks. ...totally kicked their asses off the battlefield...game over. score: u.s. 1 - 0.

then a second war arose, an international islamic jihad against the u.s. forces in iraq, with saudis and iran and countless others rushing there to join the local islamists to defeat us....

and, although it took much longer (as guerrilla wars always do), we are effectively on the way to winning this one as well.... their back is broken, there is no cohesive enemy any more...now we`re beginning to draw down...

score: u.s (almost)2 - 0.....

saddam gone....al sadr in iran...the iraqi`s are sharing oil revenue among the major factions....they figured out they didn`t particularly like al qaeda`s modus operandi...

no more worries about revisiting saddam and his ongoing pursuit of wmds(chemical/biological/nuclear)...

the iraqis have been liberated(we`ve liberated more muslims than any group of nations on earth if you throw in bosnia)...no longer do the minority sunnis have their feet on the necks of the majority....

the u.s.(thank god) is on the way to somewhat resurrecting the reputation(the one we tarnished in viet nam and some other smaller shinkicks along the way) that it will stick by it`s allies and finish what it started....

(translation of the above for spongy and spy:"we made iraq a running dog of yankee imperialism").....:142smilie

:mj03: wait a minute...bock will be pres. in november...and he`s still committed to surrendering(unless he changed his mind again within the last half hour)......
 
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kosar said:
Sheesh!

That's been asked at least a hundred times here with nary an answer. Nobody can answer who the f*ck we're even fighting in this 'war.' When we 'win', who did we defeat?

Good luck!
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Yeh winning is not like the cold war and defeating communism. That communism was under every rock. Easy to look and see that it was gone.

Not like " Tear down that wall "

When the wall fell , we knew America had won.

In Iraq , we will know we won when we see
Texaco and Exxon signs hanging off the Iraqi
oil wells.
 
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Scott-Atlanta said:
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Yeh winning is not like the cold war and defeating communism. That communism was under every rock. Easy to look and see that it was gone.

Not like " Tear down that wall "

When the wall fell , we knew America had won.

In Iraq , we will know we won when we see
Texaco and Exxon signs hanging off the Iraqi
oil wells.
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lol-

Scotty,

Not sure what happened, but in the last 18 months or so, you have seemed to have had an epiphany. I don't mean that in a bad way.
 
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kosar said:
lol-

Scotty,

Not sure what happened, but in the last 18 months or so, you have seemed to have had an epiphany. I don't mean that in a bad way.
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Honestly kosar

I was OK until I started reading the political forum.

kosar - are you sure we are centrists ?

Fawking Eddie claims to be one ?:shrug:

I am confused
 
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Kosar were going to win the right to send more troops back to afgan to finish that job. Thats it. But really what is sad. Is how bad shape this crew running our great country last 7 years has put us in. Christ were close to a run on the banks and 1930's.
 
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BobbyBlueChip said:
Would you define what victory is? If you have time
Click to expand...

actually,we`re in the process of winning the second iraq war....

we won the first war, against saddam hussein and the ba'athists, in the first three weeks. ...totally kicked their asses off the battlefield...game over. score: u.s. 1 - 0.

then a second war arose, an international islamic jihad against the u.s. forces in iraq, with saudis and iran and countless others rushing there to join the local islamists to defeat us....

and, although it took much longer (as guerrilla wars always do), we are effectively on the way to winning this one as well.... their back is broken, there is no cohesive enemy any more...now we`re beginning to draw down...

score: u.s (almost)2 - 0.....

saddam gone....al sadr in iran...the iraqi`s are sharing oil revenue among the major factions....they figured out they didn`t particularly like al qaeda`s modus operandi...

no more worries about revisiting saddam and his ongoing pursuit of wmds(chemical/biological/nuclear)...

the iraqis have been liberated(we`ve liberated more muslims than any group of nations on earth if you throw in bosnia)...no longer do the minority sunnis have their feet on the necks of the majority....

the u.s.(thank god) is on the way to somewhat resurrecting the reputation(the one we tarnished in viet nam and some other smaller shinkicks along the way) that it will stick by it`s allies and finish what it started....

(translation of the above for spongy and spy:"we made iraq a running dog of yankee imperialism").....

wait a minute...bock will be pres. in november...and he`s still committed to surrendering(unless he changed his mind again within the last half hour)......
 
gardenweasel

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BobbyBlueChip said:
Would you define what victory is? If you have time
Click to expand...

actually,we`re in the process of winning the second iraq war....

we won the first war, against saddam hussein and the ba'athists, in the first three weeks. ...totally kicked their asses off the battlefield...game over. score: u.s. 1 - 0.

then a second war arose, an international islamic jihad against the u.s. forces in iraq, with saudis and iran and countless others rushing there to join the local islamists to defeat us....

and, although it took much longer (as guerrilla wars always do), we are effectively on the way to winning this one as well.... their back is broken, there is no cohesive enemy any more...now we`re beginning to draw down...

score: u.s (almost)2 - 0.....

saddam gone....al sadr in iran...the iraqi`s are sharing oil revenue among the major factions....they figured out they didn`t particularly like al qaeda`s modus operandi...

no more worries about revisiting saddam and his ongoing pursuit of wmds(chemical/biological/nuclear)...

the iraqis have been liberated(we`ve liberated more muslims than any group of nations on earth if you throw in bosnia)...no longer do the minority sunnis have their feet on the necks of the majority....

the u.s.(thank god) is on the way to somewhat resurrecting the reputation(the one we tarnished in viet nam and some other smaller shinkicks along the way) that it will stick by it`s allies and finish what it started....

(translation of the above for spongy and spy:"we made iraq a running dog of yankee imperialism").....

wait a minute...bock will be pres. in november...and he`s still committed to surrendering(unless he changed his mind again within the last half hour)......
 
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