Are there any McCain Supporters Here?

[Jabberwocky]

This forum can be reduced to those that defend OBama and those that attack OBama. Do those on the "right" stand for anything other than being anti-Barrack, anti-left, anti-"commie", anti-"socialist", anti-code pinkos, anti, anti, anti...

Are there any actual McCain supporters here? Or are the neocons reduced to being united by being anti-OBama?

 

[dawgball]

I have to admit that I think this post is hilarious, Jab.

What does the Democrat party stand for besides anti-current administration?

Sure you can say improving health care, improving education, improving blah. But all the politicos say the same thing.

No harm intended. But your post struck me as funny because anti-whatever is all our political structure is about.




And of course.... CHANGE. :SIB

 

[Jabberwocky]

I for one support OBama's environmental policy, I support his stance on the occupation of Iraq, I support his economic policy (if he actually follows through and reduces debt while using funds that are being spent overseas to better America), I support his ideas on healthcare reform. I think that his grassroots funding approach as opposed to big corporate donors will potentially enable him to put the interests of the people first instead of serving the need of special interests.

I agree, the left has been galvanized by an overall contempt for Bush, no argument there.

However, in the current election, I believe that there is much more support for OBama on the left then hatred of McCain. On the other side, I also believe that there is much more hatred for OBama (and Hillary) than actual support for McCain.

But overall, point taken db.

 

[dawgball]

I for one support OBama's environmental policy, I support his stance on the occupation of Iraq, I support his economic policy (if he actually follows through and reduces debt while using funds that are being spent overseas to better America), I support his ideas on healthcare reform.

I guess for me it is all rhetoric bullshit until it's in place. At this point, they are all stances.

p.s. Can anyone tell I am completely jaded with our current political situation? :142smilie

I mean, really, I freaking HATE it! I think our country is becoming more and more of a joke because of our entire government structure. We need to get back to what made this country great, and it's not more government programs.

 

[Jabberwocky]

I definitely understand where you are coming from. I am as much libertarian as democrat, so I concur that big government is not the solution. I know that dems always get lumped in as big government, welfare state types, but that is not me at all.

 

[dawgball]

It's all big government these days and it is doing nothing but swelling more and more. Both of our current parties are for bigger government. It's only the context that is different.

That is why I feel we need someone like Ron Paul in there? Does he have difficiencies? Absolutely! But at least I think he would be a straight shooter. Maybe even Huckabee.

Our government is to a point that we don't need a professional politician to run it. We need someone who will be accountable for decreasing pork spending and stop increasing government-backed programs.

Look at how much the Gates Foundation has accomplished in a short time. It would have taken 20 times the amount of time and 100 times the budget if that was a federal program.

 

[AR182]

This forum can be reduced to those that defend OBama and those that attack OBama. Do those on the "right" stand for anything other than being anti-Barrack, anti-left, anti-"commie", anti-"socialist", anti-code pinkos, anti, anti, anti...

Are there any actual McCain supporters here? Or are the neocons reduced to being united by being anti-OBama?

i guess you forgot about our bet...:142smilie

i'm not so much a mccain supporter as i am a person who thinks he is far more qualified than the others....& if we didn't have the problem with the terrorist thugs & my wife annoying me about voting i wouldn't vote for any body in the upcoming election.

 

[SixFive]

I don't really like McCain, but I certainly don't like hillary, and I'm scared of Obama.

Jab, out of curiosity, what is Obama's environmental policy?

 

[Nosigar]

This forum can be reduced to those that defend OBama and those that attack OBama. Do those on the "right" stand for anything other than being anti-Barrack, anti-left, anti-"commie", anti-"socialist", anti-code pinkos, anti, anti, anti...

Are there any actual McCain supporters here? Or are the neocons reduced to being united by being anti-OBama?

I know.
As opposed to anti-american, anti-common sense, anti-self survival, anti-individual rights, anti-free speech, anti-growth, anti-free choice, anti-education, anti-anti...

It's a bitch. Call a protest.. now. Rev up the buses, we're going to Washington. :00hour


And, no, I doubt there are many real McCain supporters here. I am surprised that there are any real live Osama or Shillary supporters at all in the country, but that's a whole other topic.

 

[bryanz]

take a look my post # 10 under why Mccain wont win...

 

[smurphy]

Anti-freedom for adults to gamble online?

However, in the current election, I believe that there is much more support for OBama on the left then hatred of McCain. On the other side, I also believe that there is much more hatred for OBama (and Hillary) than actual support for McCain.

I think you are correct and it will play out this way until election day.

 

[Jabberwocky]

SixFive,

Here is a quick blurb, you can go to his website to read more

"Senator Obama led a bipartisan effort to raise CAFE fuel economy standards, which have remained frozen for 20 years because of congressional gridlock. He developed an innovative approach to gradually increase CAFE standards while protecting the financial future of American automakers. The resulting Obama-Lugar-Biden bill would establish concrete targets for annual CAFE increases while giving industry the flexibility to meet those targets. The Obama-Lugar-Biden Fuel Economy Reform Act has gained the support of Senators who had never supported CAFE increases before, and the basic concept of the legislation was endorsed by President Bush in his 2007 State of the Union address.


Senator Obama introduced legislation encouraging automakers to make fuel-efficient hybrid vehicles by helping the companies shoulder the health care costs of their retirees. Domestic automakers would get health care assistance in exchange for their investing 50 percent of the savings into technology to produce more fuel-efficient vehicles."

I am not interested in hamstringing US auto makers and the US economy with overly burdensome carbon taxes and the like. But I am very much in support of becoming energy independent and not sending US dollars overseas to pay for foreign oil. I believe that if this country set its focus and resources on the problem, then we have the capacity to develop alternative technologies, become energy independent and sell the technology to the rest of the world.

As Dawg points out, it is just political rhetoric until real actions are taken.

 

[DOGS THAT BARK]

I for one support OBama's environmental policy, I support his stance on the occupation of Iraq, I support his economic policy (if he actually follows through and reduces debt while using funds that are being spent overseas to better America), I support his ideas on healthcare reform. I think that his grassroots funding approach as opposed to big corporate donors will potentially enable him to put the interests of the people first instead of serving the need of special interests.

I agree, the left has been galvanized by an overall contempt for Bush, no argument there.

However, in the current election, I believe that there is much more support for OBama on the left then hatred of McCain. On the other side, I also believe that there is much more hatred for OBama (and Hillary) than actual support for McCain.

But overall, point taken db.

jabber on reducing debt --a question if I may--have you ever added up the cost of entitlement programs proposed?-The war is costing bout 8 billion a month and declining--it doesn't near compensate for the estimated cost of social programs--which as we both know will cost more than projections and escalate yearly--and thats not even taking into account having to fix the gross under funding of social programs already in place.
:shrug:

 

[Jabberwocky]

DTB, I am not down with endless entitlement programs and bloated government. I am definitely not an advocate of a welfare state. I would have to look closely at the specifics of what OBama is proposing.

 

[rusty]

:sadwave:

 

[hedgehog]

SixFive,

Here is a quick blurb, you can go to his website to read more

"Senator Obama led a bipartisan effort to raise CAFE fuel economy standards, which have remained frozen for 20 years because of congressional gridlock. He developed an innovative approach to gradually increase CAFE standards while protecting the financial future of American automakers. The resulting Obama-Lugar-Biden bill would establish concrete targets for annual CAFE increases while giving industry the flexibility to meet those targets. The Obama-Lugar-Biden Fuel Economy Reform Act has gained the support of Senators who had never supported CAFE increases before, and the basic concept of the legislation was endorsed by President Bush in his 2007 State of the Union address.


Senator Obama introduced legislation encouraging automakers to make fuel-efficient hybrid vehicles by helping the companies shoulder the health care costs of their retirees. Domestic automakers would get health care assistance in exchange for their investing 50 percent of the savings into technology to produce more fuel-efficient vehicles."

I am not interested in hamstringing US auto makers and the US economy with overly burdensome carbon taxes and the like. But I am very much in support of becoming energy independent and not sending US dollars overseas to pay for foreign oil. I believe that if this country set its focus and resources on the problem, then we have the capacity to develop alternative technologies, become energy independent and sell the technology to the rest of the world.

As Dawg points out, it is just political rhetoric until real actions are taken.

:violin: If this is what he will do as President, god help us:mj02:

 

[Spytheweb]

What is McCain's stand on healthcare? Keep it as it is? McCain same as Bush, you can always go to the emergency room for healthcare, while both McCain and Bush enjoy universal healthcare, the care they don't want us to have.

 

[Jabberwocky]

:violin: If this is what he will do as President, god help us:mj02:

"The Obama-Lugar-Biden Fuel Economy Reform Act has gained the support of Senators who had never supported CAFE increases before, and the basic concept of the legislation was endorsed by President Bush in his 2007 State of the Union address."

Your boy, "the best president ever", publicly supported this effort. Guess you missed that.