Are you pissed off @ the right folks??

[Eddie Haskell]

If these numbers are accurate, I wonder how much went to the bail out of Bank of America, Wells Fargo and the rest of those white collar criminals.

Eddie

 

[BobbyBlueChip]

If these numbers are accurate

They're not. About 4k is going to defense and $300 to corp subsidies. Everything else is close

 

[fatdaddycool]

They're not. About 4k is going to defense and $300 to corp subsidies. Everything else is close

I disagree, I'm rather confident that more goes to subsidies than defense, but that's fine, it sucks either way

 

[layinwood]

FDC, what the heck are you talking about? You put so much crap in your essays I don't even know where to start. I'm not sure if you really read what I wrote or just assumed some things I wrote and meant.

Where did I say
"How can you say that subsidies are necessary for increased employment of the poorer classes and then turn around and bitch about unemployment rates and food stamp recipients?"

I never said that. I said subsidies are necessary to keep the prices of Ag down. That helps the lower end of pay people as well as food stamp and welfare recipients more than it helps me or you. If prices jumped up I would be ok and so would you but people that live on next to nothing wouldn't.

 

[hedgehog]

Saint,
Have you ever considered reading something other than the "Highlights" periodicals that I'm guessing get delivered to Saints Family Dental, life coaching, and palm reading salon?
You may actually learn something and ultimately quit contributing to a seriously demeaning stereotype regarding dentists.


Hope this helps,
FDC

:nooo:

opcorn2

 

[Dead Money]

FDC, what the heck are you talking about? You put so much crap in your essays I don't even know where to start. I'm not sure if you really read what I wrote or just assumed some things I wrote and meant.

Where did I say
"How can you say that subsidies are necessary for increased employment of the poorer classes and then turn around and bitch about unemployment rates and food stamp recipients?"

I never said that. I said subsidies are necessary to keep the prices of Ag down. That helps the lower end of pay people as well as food stamp and welfare recipients more than it helps me or you. If prices jumped up I would be ok and so would you but people that live on next to nothing wouldn't.

If I can make a humble suggestion....

The IGNORE feature at Madjack's is a WONDERFUL device, I've used it exactly once since joining this site 10 years ago ... I find it helps maintain a healthy disposition when your dealing with certain personality types.


The middle class is being squeezed out of existence, the system is broken beyond repair, the political system has become a bloated charade, special interests have seen to that. I personally think we have passed the tipping point. There is no real easy way to reset the system without either war or major chaos on the home front whether it be economic or bloodshed.

 

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[fatdaddycool]

FDC, what the heck are you talking about? You put so much crap in your essays I don't even know where to start. I'm not sure if you really read what I wrote or just assumed some things I wrote and meant.

Where did I say
"How can you say that subsidies are necessary for increased employment of the poorer classes and then turn around and bitch about unemployment rates and food stamp recipients?"

I never said that. I said subsidies are necessary to keep the prices of Ag down. That helps the lower end of pay people as well as food stamp and welfare recipients more than it helps me or you. If prices jumped up I would be ok and so would you but people that live on next to nothing wouldn't.

I was responding to your first post more or less. I was also doing it on my phone and on my recliner after a rough day. I admit I tend to exacerbate a point when I feel a detailed account is needed to fully explain myself.

My exasperation was mostly with the comment that large corporations contribute to society by providing all the good paying jobs, therefore the subsidies are deserved. Yes I'm paraphrasing, but that's how I read it.

I'm all for the farmers though and I do appreciate many of your points.

 

[BobbyBlueChip]

I never said that. I said subsidies are necessary to keep the prices of Ag down. That helps the lower end of pay people as well as food stamp and welfare recipients more than it helps me or you. If prices jumped up I would be ok and so would you but people that live on next to nothing wouldn't.

I think the assumption that subsidies keep prices down is an erroneous assumption. I think the assumption that farmers aren't big corps isn't true. I also think that food stamps are part of the corporate subsidy, but at least the corps are actually providing something for their subsidies.

 

[pd1]

Better get a lobbyist. You are a mom and pop business, the subsidies go to billion dollar companies who apparently couldn't exist without government handouts.

Exactly what I was going to say.

 

[layinwood]

I think the assumption that subsidies keep prices down is an erroneous assumption. I think the assumption that farmers aren't big corps isn't true. I also think that food stamps are part of the corporate subsidy, but at least the corps are actually providing something for their subsidies.

BBC, what are the subsidies for farmers for? I was under the impression it was so they were more stable and didn't have to worry about the up and down years of making their crops?

 

[bleedingpurple]

I just find it odd that the outcry about where the money goes started just a few years ago. where was this outrage let's say before 2008?

 

[layinwood]

Maybe it's because of these stats. Can't keep going in this direction.

 

[JT]

Maybe it's because of these stats. Can't keep going in this direction.

This is federal level. What about these types of benefits at the state level? Red states account for more in getting federal help then blue states.

 

[Cie]

I just find it odd that the outcry about where the money goes started just a few years ago. where was this outrage let's say before 2008?

Doesn't matter where it was then.....it's just fortunate that it is here now. We should care, so agree or not with the vocal groups, I'm glad they're here

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[bleedingpurple]

Doesn't matter where it was then.....it's just fortunate that it is here now. We should care, so agree or not with the vocal groups, I'm glad they're here Sent from my SM-G900V using Tapatalk

I hear ya, I guess I was trying to make a point without being too political. people turn a blind eye to it when their party is at the helm

 

[BobbyBlueChip]

BBC, what are the subsidies for farmers for? I was under the impression it was so they were more stable and didn't have to worry about the up and down years of making their crops?

It's for stability, but it's to make them control the supply so that they don't make too much so that there are price floors. They're paid to not plant on land. It takes all the corporate risk and shifts if to the government

 

[Old School]

It's for stability, but it's to make them control the supply so that they don't make too much so that there are price floors. They're paid to not plant on land. It takes all the corporate risk and shifts if to the government

it is so cool when you lend your intelligence to these conversations ..

it clears up dumb shit and explains in everyday terms what is trying to be said..


in all sincerity
thanks Bobby..

 

[BobbyBlueChip]

it is so cool when you lend your intelligence to these conversations ..

it clears up dumb shit and explains in everyday terms what is trying to be said..


in all sincerity
thanks Bobby..

:look:

 

[fatdaddycool]

:look:

So it has nothing to do with sandwiches?