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Don't bet against a determined Vince Young in the Rose Bowl
Monday, December 12, 2005
NEW YORK ? Beware, Southern Cal.

Beware of the slighted one, the one with the scowl, the unforgiving. Be on the lookout in just more than three weeks for a man possessed.







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That would be Vince Young.

Just between us, I'm wondering if he will smile again between now and Jan. 4.

Vince is angry. And that's a good thing for Texas.

Just as it worked in the Longhorns' favor when USC buried UCLA in its regular-season finale to stake its claim for a third national title instead of squeaking out yet another narrow victory, Saturday's Heisman Trophy coronation of Reggie Bush should help Texas.

The celebration of all things Trojan ? back-to-back national championships, back-to-back Heisman trophies ? can only serve to further reinforce the Big 12 champions as the biggest underdog since Buster Douglas.

A packed house of national media at the Hard Rock Cafe were taken aback by the bizarre, miffed reaction that the Texas quarterback had to the Heisman results. Reporters cast him as the angriest runnerup in Heisman's 71-year history.

From the minute that Young stepped to the podum for a news conference gathering of about 100 reporters Saturday night, one could tell that he was in no mood.

He told us he was "disappointed" that he let down his teammates, his family, both his hometown of Houston and his adopted town of Austin. But he was much too hard on himself. Ever since he came to Austin, he's been T.J. Ford times 10.

Vince is just not a happy-to-be-there kind of guy. And that's anywhere, even New York City. He is an I'm-here-to-win guy first and foremost, which is why Longhorn fans have embraced him like few others.

Oh, they adored Major Applewhite. They worshiped Ricky Williams. They were awestruck by Earl Campbell.

But Longhorn Nation has embraced Vince Young with a fervency usually reserved for royalty. Darrell royalty, if you will. You see a No. 10 jersey around Austin more than you see Leslie these days.

I would hope Vince wouldn't be so hard on himself. He should relax, let it sink in that he was voted the second-best player in all of college football. Considering that takes in more than 10,000 players from Wake to Washington, that's darn good.

We understand Young's sense of rejection. He's a guy driven to succeed, a guy so consumed with winning and pleasing and laughing that anything short of that leaves him totally unsatisfied. He takes things personally, which can be very dangerous.

Vince Young is now the best player in America not named Reggie Bush. That might be enough for most, but not Vince.

As his coach, Mack Brown, said Saturday night at the Nokia Theater where the Heisman ceremony took place, "Vince is the most competitive person I've ever been around."

Me, too. Of all the athletes I've had the pleasure of covering up close, the three most competitive have been Roger Clemens, Lance Armstrong and Vince Young. Pretty heady company, that. Others like Michael Jordan and Tiger Woods fall into that same class. They don't hate to lose. They refuse to lose.

But elections are harder to control than football games. Too many variables. Vince may not have touched all the voters as he planned, but when he touches the ball on every offensive snap . . . well, as I said, beware, USC.

It should be extremely interesting to see how Vince turns this rejection into motivation to show his best side in Pasadena. The best athletes do that. Turn defeat into victory, despair into delirium.

The guess here is that Vince Young will play either the game of his life against the Trojans in the Rose Bowl on Jan. 4 or the nation could see a repeat of his performance against Texas A&M.

I'm betting on the best.

Young's game turned sour at College Station when he tried to duplicate or better the performance of Bush the week before. Bush basically wrapped up the Heisman with his heroic effort against Fresno State, totaling 513 all-purpose yards.

Against an Aggie defense that ranked 115th versus the pass, Young was unusually ordinary. He pressed. The A&M defensive line penetrated the Texas backfield and hurried him into a 162-yard day with a single touchdown and one interception. Even worse, he ran for 19 yards on 11 carries, counting three sacks.

He wasn't alone. Very few of the Longhorns outside of safeties Michael Griffin and Michael Huff played well.

Young's body language and distance from his team on the sidelines told everyone at Kyle Field that day he knew the Heisman was gone, lost forever.

Vince may be humble, but he's also very, very proud.

And that pride had been wounded. He responded in true Vince form, throwing three touchdown passes and running for another in a 250-yard game against Colorado in the Big 12 championship game.

Good, but not Heisman quality.

It came too late. But another chance comes soon, another shot at redemption when even better, Vince Young plays on the same field with the last two Heisman winners.

Don't bet against him.
 

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it's unpossible for texas to win. do not bet on texas or you will lose money. scott4usc says so.
 

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Didn't we see this same scenario in the National Title game last year? The heisman runner up was supposed to come out and torch the trojans and show up the heisman winner? Right
 

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Didn't we see this same scenario in the National Title game last year? The heisman runner up was supposed to come out and torch the trojans and show up the heisman winner? Right

*Orange Bowl BCS game between USC and Iowa. Brand Banks lost to Carson Palmer.

*Orange Bowl BCS NC game between USC and OU. White and Peterson lost to Leinart.

*Rose Bowl BCS NC game between USC and TX. Young lost to Bush.
 

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or look at how heisman winners performed in bowl games in the 10 years prior to palmer and see how they did
 

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I am a horn but looking at this game I really believe the Longhorns have a great shot at beating USC. First of all, I have all the respect in the world for them. The program, the coach, Leinart, Bush - Class Acts!

What I see as being the difference is Gene Chizik - the Def coor. If he was not there I would worry about the Carroll/Brown match up.

Reggie cannot be stopped but if there is a defensive with enough speed and a defensive coach who has a great gameplan I believe he can be contained.

Texas has a very big, fast, and physical defense. I think USC will be very surprised when they line up and see how big and fast Texas is up front as well as in the secondary.

USC has not played a QB that is as gifted as Vince Young. The only time he truly was contained all year was against Ohio St and they have the best linebackers in the country.

I am not guaranteeing a Texas win but I am very surprised how everyone on this board seems to have written off the Longhorns.

My prediction is 45-35 Texas. Just my 2 cents.......
 

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USC has not played a QB as gifted as Vince Young????

USC has not played a QB as gifted as Vince Young????

I would say that Vince Young is quite an amazing athlete and I am a big fan of his athleticsim and development. I truly believe that he presents many challenges to USC in his ability to break containment ala Mike Vick, but like FSU against Va Tech I can see a similar result.


But to say that USC has not faced a QB as gifted is a little off kilter. Though the Pac 10 is not the home of astounding defense it is the home of many of the nations gifted QB's. Drew Olson from UCLA, Clemons from Oregon, Keller from ASU, and then USC played the potential Heisman Qb of next year in Brady Quinn. All of these QB's and Pinegar from Fresneck will all be playing on Sundays.

Additionally, what team has Texas seen as gifted as USC? Any RB's as gifted as Reggie Bush? Any Qb's anywhere near the level of Leinart? Any WR's near the level of Jarrett?

And the best part of all, Gene Chizik. Do you not know the history of USC and Gene Chizik? He has not beaten them and lost in is own house as the #1 team in the country 2 years ago to a QB starting his first game. Not even close 23-0. Chizik had similar talent at AU and trouble with SC's pro style attack.
 
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Great points! The Pac 10 has phenominal qb's but none can do what Vince can do. Olson, Clemons, Keller, and Quinn are better proto-type qb's but Young has a gift that the other qb's dont have.....his feet. You can't coach or prepare against athleticism and talent.

Now as far as playing any rb as gifted as Bush - Me personally, I think Bush would run for 150 against the 85 Bears! He is that good! Texas does have 2 tailbacks, Romance Taylor who runs,I believe close to a 4.2 and Jamal Charles 4.4. From what I understand they are "Bush" in the Texas workouts.

Has Texas faced a QB as good as Leinart - see aboive - He could be the best QB ever in College football.

Jarrett - very good but not extremely impressive - I think Huff and Griffin could keep him in check.

Texas offense against USC defense is what is going to win or lose the game. If Texas comes to play and runs their offense like they are capable of Texas wins. If USC holds them in Check - USC wins. I think it is as simple as that.
 

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I don't see how his being angry will effect the game at all. To suggest it will is preposterous. And USC defense has played many times against a quarterback better than Young - in fact, every time they scrimmaged against USC's first team offense they played against a better quarterback than Vince Young.
 

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Wow I thought VY got 1st team All-American over Leinart. I could be wrong though.

Whos easier to prepare for QB wise? VY or Leinart?

Enough said.

KMAC
 

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I would say that Young would be more difficult to prepare for but that is not the full responsibility of a Defensive Coordinator. The objective is to contain the other offense, not necessarily one option of the offense.

In this case, and I may be in the minority, my thoughts are that as Vince Young goes, so does TX. If he is on all the other options are that more lethal.

Can you say the same for the SC offense? I would honestly say that shutting down one of the options-running or throwing, would not shut down their offense.

As for people believing their is a smug consensus, I think that is a little zealous. There is a lot of belief in SC and aside from the fanatic who believes that SC will dominate, must folks are either calling this game close or SC by about 2 TD's. My 2 cents are that SC wins 37-22 fwiw.
 

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Texas wins the game on the field by 4 points. I have watched both teams dominate, this should be a slugfest with the best defense winning the game in the fourth quarter.
 

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Well, so he was made first team and Leinhart was second. Who do you think is likely to be a long term starter in the NFL? I would make a pretty hefty bet that it will be Leinhart. In fact, I might envision a scenario where Young never takes a snap at QB in the NFL. Who do you think will be drafted first - Leinhart or Young? If you want to bet it is Young, I think there will be a huge line wanting your action.Who do you think will sign the biggest contract - Young or Leinhart. Answer - see above. If you owned an NFL team, who would you rather build it around - Leinhart or Young? Wait, I will predict you will say Young. Well, if so, that flies in the face of everything that has ever happened in the past. Palmer was not near the QB that Leinhart is and he seems to be fitting in rather well with the Bengals.

And who here has said that SC will dominate? I simply said that in my opinion Leinhart is a better QB. I guess we will have to wait to see the game and the NFL draft. But one man doesn't make a team and SC's offense is far more complicated and far more difficult to prepare for than Vince Young. The Trojans have offenseive options that Texas hasn't even seen in films. Why do you suppose SC trounced Iowa and Oklahoma? Preparing for Texas and Young will be a snap compared to what Texas will have to deal with.
 
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