ASU - OSU what am I missing?

[c20916]

Someone please help me out here. I know this is ASU's first road game but they have scored 63, 31, and 52 so far this year. The D's they played are not good, but neither is Ore St's

I would compare ASU's o with Lousiville's O and we saw what they did to Ore St. I know they travelled three time zones and had the early start, but they started the game better than they finished. They have young CB's and with Keller throwing the ball like he is, I don't see how Ore St keeps this one close

ASU -7 ov Ore St 4 units

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[ysg3]

that game is a trap line if ive ever seen one. I am laying off or leaning towards oregon st.. Also oddsmakers may figure Ariz St looking ahead to USC??

 

[devilfan02]

ASU has looked very good this season on both sides of the ball. Our D looked a liittle lazy against NWestern but they played more solid in the second half. Keller (not Hagen) is our QB and he is starting to gain attention for Heisman. He tore apart all three opponents, while making LSU look like a JUCO defense. Although Walter (last years QB) had a GREAT arm and put up huge #'s, everyone in Tempe is VERY happy with Keller. He is much more of a leader and fights to the very end. Our true forsh RB, Keagan Herring has looked very good as well as our starter, Rudy Burgess. However, they tore up bad defenses and did not move the ball on the ground against LSU. I don't think that will matter against Oregon St. cause it didn't seem to against LSU. I think we have proved that we are nearly unstoppable through the air, running game or not. Also, everyone is coming back healthy. Our second best reciever, Terry Richardson, sat out last week and is back. Last years PAC 10 frosh of the year and the best TE in the country (trust me) Zack Miller is also back after sitting out last week. Our best DL Kyle Caldwell (DE) is also back after missing the last 2 games. One of our best defenders, LB Jamar Williams, is also back after serving a one game suspension last week. Our best reciever, Derek Hagen, is having a quiet year but only because our offense is extremely balanced. We have never had so much depth and talent which is why Miller and Hagen have been relatively quiet. Our D has lots of depth as well and has looked very very sharp thus far. I'm not betting this game cause I want to enjoy the game but I see the Devils rolling the Beavers. And trust me, I'm not saying that with my heart! I know its on the road, but we had no problem beating Oregon the last 2 visits to Autzen. As for USC in two weeks, don't worry about this team looking ahead. ASU is one of the most underrated teams in the COUNTRY and this team knows it. They know they won the LSU game and they are confident they can hang with USC. It is a veteran team that won't make the mistake of overlooking a decent team at a tough place to play. They know they can get to a BCS game if they stay focused, and thats all Koetter and the coaching staff has been preaching. Overall, I think ASU covers with relative ease due to our balanced and potent offense and our enhanced D. Take my info for all its worth..... :clap: :clap:

 

[Scott4USC]

ASU might be looking ahead to USC. I think they are. But I thought Oregon was looking ahead to USC last week and they played fairly well vs FSU but with the aid of the refs.

ASU is an up and down team, often playing to the level of their compeition.

Game is on the road and the Pac 10 has a lot of parity.

ASU doesn't have a strong running game and when you play on the road it is much tougher to pass.

Assuming USC wins the Pac 10, (not saying it is a lock), ASU, UCLA, Oregon, CAL, and Oregon St. all would have legit shots at finishing #2. WSU would be the next team looking in after that group. I don't think a whole lot separates these teams. Just my opinion.

Oregon St. +7 is the side I would be leaning too.

I also think you missed your shot. I think ASU opened up at 4 or 4.5 favorites. Been bet up to 7 now.

 

[devilfan02]

This is not the same ASU teams of past. I've been at every game and I dont see your "playing to the other teams level" stigma. Maybe the last couple years, not this one. It's a totally differnt feeling with Keller at QB and our new defensive coordinator (who came from Florida) impovinf our D. Our running game is much improved and we will pass the ball just fine, not concerned about that at all.

 

[soljah67]

Scott this sounds like the same type of stuff you said about UCLA/Oklahoma game. And what happened? UCLA dominated Oklahoma in the end. Only thing OSU has going for them in this game is their home field advantage, which has been somewhat upgraded recently with thier additons of seatings. Only reason why the beavs will come out with a win is if the fog comes in again (like last years USC/OSU game). I also realize about people talking about trap games and such. From what I noticed there are not much trap games in college football. In the NFL I've seen alot of trap games, but not in college. Reason being, in college if the team is superior they will show it. In the NFL, every player is good, and on any given day has a possiblility of playing great. Thus, picking winning teams in the NFL is harder than in college.

Just listen to devilfan02, he knows his team. Additions of these players in the game should put Arizona State ahead. Oregon State's defense is weak and will be exposed all day by Arizona State's high powered offense. I went to OSU for a couple of years, cruised with some of the football players (some in the NFL now), the Beavs have made me money last year, and this game they will make me money by going against them. Just go with Arizona St, don't think theres a trap game in college unless a team is laying the load of points which Arizona State is not. Got my line at Arizona State -5.5 and it ain't gonna move.

There are also 2 games that my house took off that I was really looking at. Georgia Tech/Virginia Tech and Memphis/Tulsa. Liking both V Tech and Tulsa, but more so Tulsa as they will just need to win this game at home. I got 2 other houses to go to, so i'll find a good line somewhere.

 

[devilfan02]

Not trying to start anything with the last post. Just trying to get my point out that this team is very different from past ones. I can see how it looks like a trap, but I see ASU winning by 2 td's. As i said, I'm not betting it but if I did I would take ASU. I know that comes off as me rooting for my team, but its not. Our offense is too deep and balanced (with many threats, not necessarily a good running game) to be stopped by defense like Oregon States. My biggest problem with the game is that OSU just gotr handled and might play with high intensity. As for other plays, my fav game of the week is VT -11 against GT. Reggie Ball is out and they have to play at VT. Seems to easy though....... Also like Minn -3 against Purdue. Any team who gives up 24 against Arizona can't have that great of an defense, I don't care if they have all 11 back on that side of the ball. Plus, we know how Minn runs the ball and their tough to play at home... What do you think

 

[INtheBLUE]

Soljah67,

Gotta agree on the Memphis. Dont see that one being close. Memphis much better on the Offense to Defense matchup. See this game being a 3TD difference.