Attention: ELVIS

[hellah10]

You said in the "China's getting pissed" thread that you are(as I can tell) well educated in religion...question...

I have always wanted to know this - but not eve the internet can give me a straight answer..

Whats the difference between...

Catholics
Protestants
Baptist
Lutheran
Methodists
Episcopaleon

am I missing any??

Would love to know - have never gotten a straight answer, and Ive been always wondering for years and years. Religion is a great topic to read about - and I want to start reading up on Chrisitians, and probably gonna get a Bible from one of my buddies and read it. So many questions....I just want answers

Thanks

 

[SixFive]

Probably similar to differences in Islam. For example, the type u practice I'm sure is a heck of a lot different than what the folks practice who are perpetrating suicide bombings. I'm also sure u don't believe if u blow yourself up killing infidels that u will be surrounded by willing virgins in the afterlife, correct? Without going into a lot of doctrinal differences between Catholics/Baptists, etc., that should help explain it to u.

 

[thekidwhocould]

Re: Attention: ELVIS

Whats the difference between...

Catholics
Protestants
Baptist
Lutheran
Methodists
Episcopaleon

am I missing any??

Would love to know - have never gotten a straight answer, and Ive been always wondering for years and years. Religion is a great topic to read about - and I want to start reading up on Chrisitians, and probably gonna get a Bible from one of my buddies and read it. So many questions....I just want answers

Thanks

hellah, i'm sorry but you never in your life will get a straight answer. I'm sorry but, reading the bible will not answer any of the questions you have. god only knows why christians created so many denominations. im sure making money has nothing to do with it. you know, christianity is the biggest business in the world.
to answer your question though. catholics like to have sex with little boys and protestants like to download it of the internet and masterbate to it. which one do you wanna sign up for?

i was raised nazarene....and they are definitely the nuttiest

 

[thekidwhocould]

let me add, i have nothing but respect for any god fearing men. i'm just a bit skeptical.

 

[hellah10]

Probably similar to differences in Islam. For example, the type u practice I'm sure is a heck of a lot different than what the folks practice who are perpetrating suicide bombings. I'm also sure u don't believe if u blow yourself up killing infidels that u will be surrounded by willing virgins in the afterlife, correct? Without going into a lot of doctrinal differences between Catholics/Baptists, etc., that should help explain it to u.

ohhh believe me....the virgin stuff is all made up by extremists. Every religion has extremists - I Dont support them, the suicide bombings....thats just odd. But, if these suicide bombers had missles and tanks, iam pretty sure they would use those rather then themselves.

I am pretty religious I would say. I dont preach it or anything, nor do I ever bring it up, because I know in the end someone is leaving pissed off. Islam is a simple religion - and just go by the 5 pillars. There`s no such thing as 72 or 74 whatever the number of virgins are waiting....there is no suicide bombing will take you to heaven....

we believe there are 3 things that god wont forgive you for on the day of judgement...

1) NOT beleiving in God
2) taking someones life(war is different - like a real war - crusades is a good example)
3) taking your own life.

you wont find me strappin C-4 to my body just because some extremists revised the book of Quran.

Let me set something straight real quick....when Muslims say "allah" thats just arabic for "god" some people like to be pricks and really take "allah" as if he is a...i dont know...something different. Truth of the matter is, Muslims, Jews, and Christians all believe in the same GOD. The MAIN difference between Muslims and Christians is that we dont recogonize Jesus being the son of god...we recogonize him as a prophet as was Muhammed. Alot of shitheads also say we dont believe in Jesus and we say this and that about Jesus...well these morons can get a Quran(english one, they make em) and read it. Jesus is probably mentioned at least 100 times...and we believe Jesus will return to Earth.

This honestly is a peaceful religion, but EXTREMISTS DO NOT SPEAK FOR ME OR MY ACTIONS - pleaseee understand that. Just because someone is a Muslim, does not mean we go by what these suicide bombers think. The Muslims in the states(99.99%) all believe in the samething...we all fast(ramadan), pray, give alms, and do the best we can. Here in Toledo, during 9/11 the mosque here got more positive calls then negative. We try to hold things for the community of Toledo, such as gatherings and donations and all that stuff. This past Sunday, Marcy Kaptur who is the congresswoman of the 9th district of Ohio always speaks at the mosque, and she educates everyone else that we arent terrorists. The arabs are liked here in Toledo, its just a shame that places like Chi Town and NYC think with a closed mind.

I would be happy to answer any questions about the Islamic religion...

and kid - lol, I want an answer that makes sense...

 

[SixFive]

I understand that those folks are extremists, just comparing the differences in your religion and Christianity. I would also argue that the Christian God whos son is Jesus is not the same as the Muslim God. Off to work, can discuss at a later point if u want. GL, and quit dreaming about virgins

 

[hellah10]

I would also argue that the Christian God whos son is Jesus is not the same as the Muslim God. and quit dreaming about virgins

Thats very intresting, your the first person that I have heard say that. Ive asked preists and all sorts of Chrisitians followers - and they said its the same god. I dunno...just another thing to learn Always willing to listen of course

and quit dreaming about virgins

:jump: :lol:

 

[Jhpga]

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Originally posted by thekidwhocould
to answer your question though. catholics like to have sex with little boys and protestants like to download it of the internet and masterbate to it. which one do you wanna sign up for?
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This is a horrible joke......try to have a little more class about yourself.....

 

[thekidwhocould]

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This is a horrible joke......try to have a little more class about yourself.....

i knew it would offend some people. i apologize if it bothers you. i didn't think it was horrible. it parralells alot of what we see on the news in this day and age. it clearly was a joke and i did reply with another post that read"i respect all god fearing men"


what exactly does "try and have a little more class about your self mean"

 

[FlashInVegas]

hellah...

hellah...

im with you bro.

the suicide bombers are no more representative of their religion than the idiots that blow up abortion clinics in the name of "christianity" or the "bible"...blah, blah, blah...personally, i think they are just pissed because they are failing in life and this is their way of grasping on to a cause.

i myself do not subscribe to any particular religion. i suppose if i did it would have to be rastafarianism. those folks have got it right, live for today, god is all around us, dont screw up the planet and dont **** with your neighbor.

christians are far too negative...get over it.

 

[Jhpga]

Hellah......look up "the great awakening" and also "the 2nd great awakening" on google.This will give you a history lesson on why and where all these denominations of American religions came about.They were groups who chose to split up and start their different ways to run their religion.Most are real close but some are extremly different.These is a VERY hard subject to completly understand.Also it is a very volitile subject to discuss.Many people have strong faith and belief in their particular religion.

I hope we can stop this extremists Muslim movement that is spreading like a wildfire across the Middle East.Most Muslim are peaceful people from what Ive read.However the extremists like Al Qaida,Plo,Islamic Jihad,Hamas,Hezbollah,and all other groups alike are killing the Muslim image.They need to be stopped before another 9/11 happens......

Good luck with your religious studies.....it will be a difficult one.

 

[Jhpga]

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what exactly does "try and have a little more class about your self mean"

It means dont write such BS about people's religion.Be smarter before you write such thoughtless things.

 

[thekidwhocould]

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It means dont write such BS about people's religion.Be smarter before you write such thoughtless things.

my goodness... i apologized to you even though i wanted to tell you to **** yourself. loosen up. did you even read my next post. i was clearly making a joke out of what has been all over the news before this war broke out. my god, your the guy who always made me uncomfortable for questioning things i was taught.

i'll tell you what....in the future i'll try to be smarter before i write such thoughtless things(what the hell is that?) and i'll also try have a little more class about myself....

your friend, the kid

 

[thekidwhocould]

These is a VERY hard subject to completly understand.Also it is a very volitile subject to discuss.

geez, who could you possably be refering to:shrug:

 

[Jhpga]

Kid......Im not gonna sit here at go back and forth.What you said was stupid.I havent been to church on a regular basis in 15 years.So Im no religous fanatic.The reason I replied back was you asked me what have more class means..But to summarize a whole religion in a statement like you made is ignorant.You want to tell me to go F### myself cause I said it was a horrible joke.....grow up.If you got the balls to say such BS....at least be able to handle it when someone says it was tasteless......sorry you got all worked up by my intial response.Please go back and continue with your great religious jokes!!!!!There hilarious!!!!!!!!

 

[hellah10]

Jhpga - I found very very good summaries of the Great Awakening

On the Great Awakening....

Whew, talking about your democracy. These people just branched off and made a religion it seems like - I was in shock to be honest with you. This puts a good perspective to start...

The earliest manifestations of the American phase of this phenomenon--the beginnings of the First Great Awakening--appeared among Presbyterians in Pennsylvania and New Jersey. Led by the Tennent family--Reverend William Tennent, a Scots-Irish immigrant, and his four sons, all clergymen--the Presbyterians not only initiated religious revivals in those colonies during the 1730s but also established a seminary to train clergymen whose fervid, heartfelt preaching would bring sinners to experience evangelical conversion. Originally known as "the Log College," it is better known today as Princeton University.

Now I noticed alot more groups then what I originally listed. such as...Puritans, Presbyterian, Anglicans, Quakers. Now thanks to the Univeristy of Penn - Quakers is the only one Iam familiar with. Woudl Quakers be the amish people!??!

This also is a good summary

Between 1730 and 1745 there swept over the American colonies from Maine to Georgia a religious revival known as the Great Awakening. The revival movement, unlike the earlier doctrine of the Puritans, promised the grace of God to all who could experience a desire for it. An account of the second wave of the Great Awakening in Northampton, Massachusetts, is given in the following letter of December 12, 1743, addressed by Jonathan Edwards to the Reverend Thomas Prince in Boston. The Mr. Whitefield mentioned by Edwards was the Reverend George Whitefield, an English evangelist who traveled the American colonies in 1740 preaching to massive revival meetings.

I read Jonathen Edwards On the Great Awakening. Iam pretty darn lost when he says...

The months of August and September. were the most remarkable of any this year, for appearances of conviction and conversion of sinners, and great revivings, quickenings, and comforts of professors, and for extraordinary external effects of these things. It was a very frequent thing to see a houseful of outcries, faintings, convulsions, and suchlike, both with distress and also with admiration and joy.

Now I know that the language - the toungue more or less - is alot different. Is what he said in that little paragraph good? Why would you wanna see people with convulsions? Maybe Iam not understanding it thourghly....

Iam gonna go on and read some things about the 2nd Great Awakening..

Great great stuff Jhpga - always nice to see the roots of all this and where it started. Appreciate the help. Hopefully the 2nd awakening will make more sense to me

 

[hellah10]

ahhhhh so THATS where Evangelicalism came from. I see now, things are becoming more clearer.

I found a great site about this if you are intrested...

http://xroads.virginia.edu/~MA95/finseth/evangel.html

its very good and gets to the point

 

[Jhpga]

Im glad it helped some.The second great awakening should help more.It is alot to understand.My intial reason for getting in this thread was to provide help to you.Somehow Ive had to sit here and try to explain that I thought a joke was bad.Damn some people cant take a simple reply.


As far as Jonathan Edwards......that stuff is hard to describe.The people were converting their lives over to God.They were happy but some of them fainted cause they were so overjoyed.Again...I told you it would be difficult...especially the 1st great awakening.Good luck on your studies.And remember...dont ever qive any advice to "the kid" or you will be told to F@#$ off.

 

[big joe]

Hellah10, we just might be worshiping the same God, that, I don't know, but is possible.
The main difference in the denominations listed in your first post, is worshiping style and lifestyle, not beliefs in God the Father, and The Son.
We Christians believe that Jesus is the Son of God and eternal life is given to those who believe in Him, and that you get your salvation through Jesus.
Now, just like sports fans ranging from fanatical, crazy, loud, emotional to those fans who just enjoy watching a team compete,,there are all kinds of fans and styles of cheering on a team. Some chose to be loud and crazy, some laid back,,but often the passion for wanting to win is the same. The same goes for worshiping styles,,
Catholics are serimonial and reverent, while Pentecostals are jumping and shouting and dancing and crying and speaking in tounges, etc..
We chose the style we are comfortable with and in many cases, the style with which we are raised.
Any style is fine, as long as we believe.
Like I said, I don't know if we worship the same God, I feel like we do,,but the belief in Jesus is the biggest difference.
However, this could be all settled during the Millinium, when all that remain will come to "Know the truth".
Man, is this heavy or what!!
I just woke up and now I rambling about the most debated subject in the history of the world.
I respect your beliefs, because you are seeking the truth and are obviously open-minded and a nice guy.
thx

 

[Nosigar]

Virgins are highly overrated