Australia's still in the game(sorry kerry)

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John Howard wins in a land slide. Still staying in the war on terror with the other coalition countries.

Did'nt Kerry's sister have some part in running against Howard or helping the party running against Kerry? If so nice job in trying to break up a country who wants to help, because if Howard lost which he won in a landslide they were pulling out.

Looks like 1 Kerry got drilled and one is in the on deck circle :sadwave: :142lmao: :142lmao:
 

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Supposedly Diana Kerry was down there campaigning on behalf of Latham because Howard is tight with Bush, where Latham said he'd have the Australians home by Christmas.

It should be a big story that a candidates sister was publicly campaigning against a foreign leader in his own country, solely because of the strong relationship between that leader and our president, but no I guess that isn't newsworthy.

A poll by the Washington-based Pew Centre for People and the Press found that in March this year only 58 per cent of Britons, 37 per cent of
French and 38 per cent of Germans had favourable opinions of America, down by more than 20 percentage points in each country from before the
Iraq war.


http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au/common/story_page/0,5744,10797507^2703,00.html

The Art Of Losing Friends

By Charles Krauthammer
Friday, September 24, 2004; Page A25

Of all our allies in the world, which is the only one to have joined the United States in the foxhole in every war in the past 100 years? Not Britain, not Canada, certainly not France. The answer is Australia.

Australia does not share only a community of values with the United States. It understands that its safety rests ultimately on a stable international structure that, in turn, rests not on parchment treaties but on the power and credibility of the United States. Which is why Australia is with us today in both Afghanistan and Iraq.

Australian Prime Minister John Howard has taken great risks and much political heat for his support of America. There is a national election in Australia on Oct. 9, and the race is neck and neck between Howard and Labor Party leader Mark Latham. Latham has pledged to withdraw from Iraq.

This is a critical election not only for Australia but also for the United States. Think of the effect on America, its front-line soldiers and its coalition partners if one of its closest allies turns tail and runs.

The terrorists are well aware of this potential effect. Everyone knows about the train bombings in Madrid that succeeded in bringing down a pro-American government and led to Spain's precipitous withdrawal from Iraq. But few here noticed that this month's car bombing in Jakarta, Indonesia, was designed to have precisely the same effect.

Where was the bomb set off? At the Australian Embassy. When was it set off? Just weeks before the Australian election and just three days before the only televised debate between Howard and Latham.

The terrorists' objective is to intimidate all countries allied with America. Make them bleed and tell them this is the price they pay for being a U.S. ally. The implication is obvious: Abandon America and buy your safety.

That is what the terrorists are saying. Why is the Kerry campaign saying the same thing? "John Kerry's campaign has warned Australians that the Howard Government's support for the US in Iraq has made them a bigger target for international terrorists." So reports the Weekend Australian (Sept. 18).

Americans Overseas for Kerry is the Kerry operation for winning the crucial votes of Americans living abroad (remember the Florida recount?), including more than 100,000 who live in Australia. Its leader was interviewed Sept. 16 by The Australian's Washington correspondent, Roy Eccleston. Asked if she believed the terrorist threat to Australians was now greater because of the support for President Bush, she replied: "I would have to say that," noting that "[t]he most recent attack was on the Australian embassy in Jakarta."

She said this of her country (and of the war that Australia is helping us with in Iraq): "[W]e are endangering the Australians now by this wanton disregard for international law and multilateral channels." Mark Latham could not have said it better. Nor could Jemaah Islamiah, the al Qaeda affiliate that killed nine people in the Jakarta bombing.

This Kerry spokesman, undermining a key ally on the eve of a critical election, is no rogue political operative. She is the head of Americans Overseas for Kerry -- Diana Kerry, sister to John.

She is, of course, merely echoing her brother, who, at a time when allies have shown great political courage in facing down both terrorists and domestic opposition for their assistance to the United States in Iraq, calls these allies the "coalition of the coerced and the bribed."

This snide and reckless put-down more than undermines our best friends abroad. It demonstrates the cynicism of Kerry's promise to broaden our coalition in Iraq. If this is how Kerry repays America's closest allies -- ridiculing the likes of Tony Blair and John Howard -- who does he think is going to step up tomorrow to be America's friend?

The only thing that distinguishes Kerry's Iraq proposals from Bush's is his promise to deploy his unique, near-mystical ability to bring in new allies to fight and pay for the war in Iraq -- to "make Iraq the world's responsibility" and get others to "share the burden," as he said this week at New York University.

Yet even Richard Holbrooke, a top Kerry foreign policy adviser, admits that the president of France is not going to call up President Kerry and say, "How many divisions should I send to Iraq?"

Nor will anyone else. Kerry abuses America's closest friends while courting those, like Germany and France, that have deliberately undermined America before, during and after the war. What lessons are leaders abroad to draw from this when President Kerry asks them -- pretty please in his most mellifluous French -- to put themselves on the line for the United States?
 

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Ii thought i read a few things awhile back on this so I was right, once you have snake blood in the body, you always will have snake blood in the body!

How about treason trying to undermined us government in other countries why your brother is running to be the new leader. lets here your take my little bleeders, nice little try at back stabbing at all cost, and in another country. Well Kerry's wife is no better one of the 10 most hated women in Pittsburgh from the working class people. she was foul mouthed and put down steel workers and coal miners in oh,wv and pa about 10 years ago and she had said other stuff since, then tries to go back and acts like she cares about Pittsburgh when all she has done was rip the commen union workers in those 3 states when it came to steel and coal workers. Another nice job Ketchup queen who never worked for shit. i was handed all my money is her motto.

Bleed my little bleeders bleed me a river of bullshit.;)
 

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FLETCHER I WOULD HAVE SWORN YOU WERE A DEMOCRAT. YOU ALWAYS SEEMED VERY BRIGHT AND WITTY.

I CANT BE RIGHT ALL THE TIME,LOL

SAY HELLO TO PRESIDENT KERRY.
 

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I only wish we had more friends that stepped up but for some reason they didn't. Auzzys sent 3000 in and have pulled out 1000. Other then the Britts with there 18000 we really been on our own. Maybe these other nations had better intelligences. Spain's gone and Poland's leaving. So did the Philippines.
 

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no i am reg as a rep but more of a middle type person just really hate kerry for a few reasons not that i am in love with bush either but said i only have 2 people to pick from and really not head over heals about either, i bet by mail in fl, have a in fl dl still since i have a house there. but really don't call myself stong with either side just picked a party when I was 18 I am more middle but can't stand the true hard core bleeding hearts i think they are bad for the country same as i can't stand a hard core repub. i am more independent then anything but that and 75 cents gets you a cup of coffee if you listed as that when it comes to local elections and state. I have issues with both sides and the whole system as i have stated with no middle class people able to run for a office and have a fair shot, money, it is all about money and the middle class is a token in the eyes of both parties they say they care for us but deep down both sides could give a rats ass in the end.

it is sad for my vote that was put in for bush as my main reason, but kerry is someone i really dislike won't go into it. but if i don't vote i have no right to bitch but vote both sides on state tickets. and have done so for the pres also, i voted for clinton against papa bush. so middle tyoe person.
 

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Your a true independent. We need more. With just two strong parties it's really to bad. I like you am not in love with Kerry. But I dislike bush very much so that's where we differ. I didn't at first but I sure as hell do now. But as long as the two parties control or are controlled by big business as they are. No real third party has a chance. And the way these campaigns are run why would good men even want to run. It's a shame they cant stick to issues not the BS adds we see.
 

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djv said:
I only wish we had more friends that stepped up but for some reason they didn't. Auzzys sent 3000 in and have pulled out 1000. Other then the Britts with there 18000 we really been on our own. Maybe these other nations had better intelligences. Spain's gone and Poland's leaving. So did the Philippines.

djv- you're the one who said the Philippines only had 50 personnel so why bother sending their troops to Iraq.WTF?

Guess you'd like more friends like Hellah10 over there. P.S.- In case you think I'm exaggerating you can read his old posts- but the real BS he wrote was deleted around the time when he was banned.
 

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fletcher said:
John Howard wins in a land slide. Still staying in the war on terror with the other coalition countries.

Did'nt Kerry's sister have some part in running against Howard or helping the party running against Kerry? If so nice job in trying to break up a country who wants to help, because if Howard lost which he won in a landslide they were pulling out.

Looks like 1 Kerry got drilled and one is in the on deck circle :sadwave: :142lmao: :142lmao:

Let me aboslutely, catergorically, definitively tell you, that the election here in Aus, had VERY, VERY LITTLE to do with 'the war on terror', or anything related.

Howard won the election because the "Liberal" (LMAO!!) party are poles ahead of the opposition when it comes to economic management. They have possibly the best Treasurer in our history, and that's how the election was won.

I can also assure you that I have never, EVER heard of/seen/have any knowledge of at all, of Kerry's sister. She sure as hell wasn't over here campaigning! Wouldn't know her if I bumped into her.

(Also, in Latham's defense...He was back-peddling pretty heavily on the troop withdrawal issue late...But as I said, as a % of the election campaign, I would say the whole 'war' thing would have struggled to top 10% of issues here.
 

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RAYMOND said:
flecther is a true american

Let's see.....

...The arrogance to think that everything that happens in the world is somehow related to the US.....
...Combined with little to no knowlegde of the happenings in said country other than, "Ii thought i read a few things awhile back on this so I was right"

Yep. Sounds about right. ;)
 

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No country likes to go to war and send their people in harms way. All the countries that sent troops, did so to gain the USA blessings. The countries that didn't send troops felt like they could make it without the help or blessings of America. France, Germany, Russia, and Turkey leaders was in bed with Saddam on the UN oil money and never thought in a million years Bush would go against the UN who also was taking bribes, as we all know. America has always "loaned" money when countries needed it and helped them in anyway they could. They also knew Big Brother would protect them if they needed it. Spain, and Poland let the terrorist make up their mind and they will pay a price one day along with France, Germany and Russia. It is a crying shame because the people of these countries are let down by their leaders.
 

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Funny how all these countries helped in the 91 war. Do you think they had a better reason in 91. Maybe there info was better in 91 then just BS.
 
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