Bad News for College Football.....

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Looks like Carroll is here to stay at USC for a long time. USC is a very wealthy private University and I also think Chow might be here to stay as well. Chow was given a Beach House and a car of his choice 2 years ago from the USC alumni and will prob. make close to $750,000 as an offensive coordinator. Rumor is Chow "may' leave to be OC for the NFL if he is offered over $1 million salary. This is not good news for College Football. Looks like Carroll will be bringing in his 3rd straight #1 recruiting class and continue to get more than 5x 5-star recruits than anybody else. Truly amazing. USC has 5-star recruits "trying" to make the 2-deep chart.

When Miami and FSU dominated CFB they were "not" bringing the recruiting classes/talent like USC has been doing for the last 3 years. Plus they never had the coaching staff USC has either.

Looks like what I said 3 years ago about USC here on MJ's turned out to be true while most laughed. :)

Carroll's being paid like a pro
By Doug Krikorian
Staff columnist

Those who think USC's Pete Carroll eventually will succumb to the financial allures of the NFL and I've been one of those who think he will might be terribly mistaken because Carroll might even have to take a pay cut once a serious offer from the pros is forthcoming.

It's been learned from a reliable USC source that Carroll's current salary, with bonuses kicking in after the Trojans' national championship 13-0 season that included record-setting home attendance, has reached the $3 million plateau.

There is no coach in college football who's received the immense raises Carroll has since the USC athletic director, Mike Garrett, hired him amid widespread skepticism in 2001.

Carroll's starting income at USC was around $1 million, and it had escalated to $2 million for the past season after his remarkable revival of the Trojans' football program, guiding the team to an 11-2 record and Orange Bowl win over Iowa in 2002 and a 12-1 record and Rose Bowl win over Michigan and share of the national title with LSU in 2003.

With the Trojans destined for more success they have another extraordinary recruiting class lined up and many key players, including Matt Leinart, Reggie Bush and LenDale White, returning for next season Carroll's wages figure to expand even further in the upcoming years.

Carroll insists he prefers the collegiate scene to the NFL, where he had only modest success as a head coach and wound up being detached by both the New York Jets and New England Patriots.

And why wouldn't he?

He is the field commander of the most dominant college team in America, has become one of the most revered figures on the Southern California sporting landscape and no longer has to concern himself with such parity-designed NFL nuisances as salary caps and drafts.

And, at the brisk rate his salary has been rising, the NFL might not even be able to afford Carroll once one of its struggling teams decides to make a serious pitch for him?
 
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Maybe you can stay in school another 10 years. Or better, take your winnings and start your own fan site. You know, I was actually a USC fan until I got sick of the daily diatribes.
 

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Sun Tzu said:
Maybe you can stay in school another 10 years. Or better, take your winnings and start your own fan site. You know, I was actually a USC fan until I got sick of the daily diatribes.

Graduated last year. My winnings are invested in Mutual Funds and still in the account waiting for more action!

What I posted was indeed bad news for CFB. Carroll is doing something amazing at USC. Warned everyone 3 years ago. USC alone has increased my bankroll 20x. Could have won serious $$$ with me betting on USC to win the NC prior to season and during the season at +160. Also on USC over OU in OB. Hopefully posters here did!

Check this link out, pretty much sums it up. Quite funny too! :mj07: Its Colin Cowherd's radio broadcast the day after the OB. Click on....

Twelfth Night
The Herd: After OU was thrashed, Colin Cowherd hands out a beating to the Big 12.

"USC is Reinventing Football"
 

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Scott,
You've caaught that USC virus. Enjoy the contagion. Have you considered a career in the sports information dept? Please consider that your current malady is making alot of us naceous
 

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Figured I would get under the skin of a few posters with this post! Its the off-season and prob. 45 of the 50 threads on here are outdated, thought it needed a good post!

BTW, this was a serious post! ;)
 

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Scott... I'm from Tuscaloosa and a huge fan of Alabama and college football. I give all of the schools with football tradition credit (including Usc). I think Carrol is a great coach with a great future ahead of hiim at USC. I wish i could say the same for Bama. Were just treading water down here.
But will it really be hard for a pro team to pull Carroll away, it seems that not that many great coaches have a close enough connection with a college, to pass up on a great Pro coaching oppurtinity (exp. Saban)
Gl
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I respect Alabama as well and always root for the traditional programs. Hopefully Shula turns Bama around like Carroll did with USC. Mike Price I thought would have been awesome at Alabama. Too bad that didn't work out. He is a great coach.

The way I see it, Carroll does not plan on going back to the NFL. However, there is "only" one scenario where I think he goes back and that will be 2-4 years from now. When LA gets an NFL expansion team or just any NFL team. Carroll owns LA right now and he would be given complete control over the LA team. In all his interviews, he never gives a response saying he never will leave but says the NFL doesn't give him what he has here at USC. So I say he is at USC for 2-4 more years or for 10+ years. Money I don't think will be an issue since USC is paying him top dollar and giving his assistants top dollar as well. He only will make 2 million more in the NFL. Look at the guy on sidelines, he is having a blast coaching.

"If: Carroll keeps this up, he will go down as the best all time head coach in college football. I understand that is a BIG "IF." So why leave? Leinart has the chance to go down as the best all time player or QB in college football and I am sure that played big part in him staying. This is only Carroll's 4th year at USC so he technically is still building and molding this program to where he wants it. So he has a "chance" to really go down in the history books if he keeps this up. I wouldn't leave, would you? It just seems like USC is so far and above everyone else in all areas right now.
 

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One national title and you are ready to proclaim him as the greatest coach ever?

2 National Titles and where did I say Carroll was the greatest coach ever? I said if he keeps this up, say winning 2 more NC within the next 3 years, I say you have no choice but to "start" proclaiming him one of the greatest head coach ever. His teams thus far dominate both sides of the ball and he is doing it with scholarship limits as well. Majority of the all time greats never had scholarship limits. Imagine USC without scholarship limits? He needs to coach for at least 8-10 years at USC. But never did I say he was the greatest and right now he isn't even close to being ranked in the top 10!

Wasn't Stoops considered by the vast majority as one of if not the best current HC's in college football prior to the Orange Bowl? Carroll and staff made him look like a high school coach. Carroll has beaten and outcoached Stoops and Ferentz when both of them had great teams and were supposedly one of if not the hottest teams at the time! I put Stoops and Ferentz in my current top 5 HC's. Carroll also has taken down Loyd Carr who has a very impressive resume. He beat Carr when Carr had a great team and many considered UM one of if not the hottest teams in the country. Don't forget Tedford who is at least a top 10 HC in the country and he by far has been the biggest nemesis to Carroll. Beamer has a very impressive resume with talented team and he was beaten by Carroll in his own backyard. Some might think Tubberville is a good/great coach and Carroll beat him twice and once with a QB making his first career start in USC's first game of year @AU. List goes on and on and Carroll's resume keeps on building.
 

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Scott:

You could not have complained if SC had lost 2 games last year. It was only an amazingly poor call by an official that VT didn't beat you in the opening game, and Cal were very unlucky as well.

A very good team, yes. A"super" team....absolutely not. At least yet.
 

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Scott:

You could not have complained if SC had lost 2 games last year. It was only an amazingly poor call by an official that VT didn't beat you in the opening game, and Cal were very unlucky as well.

A very good team, yes. A"super" team....absolutely not. At least yet.

Explain to me exactly how USC would have lost to V-Tech if the official did not call a PI? Please explain that whopper! :mj07:

Also explain how USC was lucky against CAL? That is another great whopper! :mj07:

USC has "not" won any game with luck in the Pete Carroll. What I mean by luck is "breaks" or "ball bouncing your way." In fact, USC has been UNLUCKY in the Pete Carroll era.

You were right in one thing. I could not have complained if V-Tech beat USC (but I do not see how V-Tech would have beat USC even with that PI call. USC owned V-Tech in the 2h and half of the 4th quarter USC shut it down on offense. Give me a break.

I could have complained about USC losing to CAL. CAL had a 3rd and goal and threw an INC pass but USC LB was called for PI. He did touch the DB in back but it was close call. No argument from me. Cal scored a TD. HOWEVER, USC had a 2nd and goal and Leianrt thew the ball to 6.5 WR Dwane Jarret in the end zone and the CAL DB literally jumped on Dwane Jarrets back, tipped the ball in air and CAL got the INT. It was clear as night and day the CAL DB on top of Jarret. So that was an obivous bad call the officials made that went against USC. USC stopping CAL on 4 downs to end the game is not luck. Who the hell would say that is luck?

As for the PI that "you" think should not have been called against V-Tech in the USC game was not an obvious bad call. #1 the camera angle only showed one angle and it was not, I repeat "NOT" the same angle the ref saw the play. There was NO camera shot shown from behind where the ref called the PI saying he pushed the USC DB in the back. I taped the game and watched it slow motion and the V-Tech WR did in fact have his hands on the USC DB's back. Is that a foul or should it have been called? Was he just touching or was it pushing? Thats debatable. But thats football. That play did "NOT" decide the outcome of the game. It would have been 1st down V-Tech on 10-15 yard line.

All in all, your post made very little sense.
 
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Englishman said:
Jeez Scott - you have won one national title........I think you are getting carried away here.

Uh? USC has won 2 NC's in a row, heavy favorites to win 3 in a row, 2 back to back #1 recruiting class and "maybe' make it 3 in a row. So how exactly am I getting carried away? Your last 2 posts make no sense.
 

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Chow will probably be with the Tennessee Titans next season so I wouldn't say this title in 05 is a lock.
 

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Mr Hockey said:
Chow will probably be with the Tennessee Titans next season so I wouldn't say this title in 05 is a lock.

USC will be the unanimous favorites to win the National Championship with or without Chow. That said, USC's chances better with Chow. Their are "rumors" that Chow and Carroll are not getting along and that Carroll sorta wants Chow to get a HC job somewhere. Carroll already made Chow assistant HC and is promoting someone else as OC in training but CHow will overlook it all. Really weird stuff going on.

You are right, there is chance Chow goes to TN as OC but he did promise Leinart he would stay another year. Who knows what happens and who knows if these rumors are true.
 
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