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7/7 'MASTERMIND' SEIZED IN IRAQ...
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/iraq/article1717571.ece

FOILED: Saudis Arrest 172 in Alleged Terror Plot...
http://apnews.myway.com/article/20070427/D8OP6N8O0.html

FUNNELED: Troops seize gang transporting 'bombs from Iran'...
http://www.breitbart.com/article.php?id=070427185225.eephgeaz&show_article=1

U.S. raids target al-Qaida in Iraq
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20070428/ap_on_re_mi_ea/iraq

Pakistani forces capture al Qaeda suspect
http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20070428/ts_nm/pakistan_arrest_dc;_ylt=AsnRi3BWMZ33NI9esqsoH39Z.3QA

US reveals capture of senior Al-Qaeda suspect
http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/2007042...70428022746;_ylt=Au0AakM2eKfInuuMYPsQzXSFOrgF

Thought I'd cut/paste this last one to show left wing elements contribution--

by Jim Mannion
Fri Apr 27, 10:31 PM ET

WASHINGTON (AFP) - The United States revealed Friday the capture of a senior-level Al-Qaeda commander and his transfer to its Guantanamo Bay, Cuba detention center for "war on terror" suspects.

Abd al Hadi al-Iraqi, who allegedly led operations in Afghanistan and plotted the assassination of Pakistan's President Pervez Musharraf, was taken to the Guantanamo Bay facility within the past week, the Defense Department said.

Al-Iraqi was intercepted as he was trying to reach Iraq to manage Al-Qaeda operations and possibly plot attacks against Western targets outside Iraq, Pentagon spokesman Bryan Whitman said.

Whitman said the suspect "was one of Al-Qaeda's highest ranking and senior operatives at the time of his detention."

Al-Iraqi was a key Al-Qaeda commander in the late 1990s, and from 2002 to 2004 was in charge of cross-border attacks against coalition forces in Afghanistan, working directly with the Taliban, Whitman said.

"He also in recent years was involved in plots to assassinate perceived opponents of Al-Qaeda to include Pakistan President Musharraf as well as other officials," Whitman said.

Al-Iraqi was held by the Central Intelligence Agency before being turned over to US military authorities, said Whitman.

In a note to CIA employees, director Michael Hayden said the agency played a "key role in efforts to locate him," and called al-Iraqi's capture "a triumph on which we must continue to build."

Hayden also defended the CIA's interrogation program, which President George W. Bush acknowledged in September involved tough "alternative" interrogation practices.

"The information it has produced has prevented terrorist attacks and saved innocent lives," Hayden said. "Its methods are legal, thoroughly reviewed by our government to ensure that they are fully in accordance with our laws and treaty obligations."

On September 6, Bush announced that all high-value prisoners being held by the CIA at secret overseas detention centers had been transferred to Guantanamo.

A US intelligence official, who spoke on condition of anonymity, said al-Iraqi was captured in late 2006, well after the president's announcement, as part of a complex international operation.

But Amnesty International said the announcement raised questions about how many more people are being held by the CIA, where they were being held and whether al-Iraqi was subjected to the "alternative" interrogation techniques.

The lack of information "only adds to the deep concerns surrounding the United States' conduct in the so-called 'war on terror,'" the human rights group said.

News of the capture was welcomed by Pakistan and hailed by Afghanistan as "a major success."
The Pentagon and the CIA declined to comment on where al-Iraqi was captured, whether US forces were directly involved, or where he was held.

"At the time of his capture he was trying to return to his native country, Iraq, to manage Al-Qaeda's affairs and possibly focus on operations outside Iraq against Western targets," Whitman said. "He was intercepted before he got there."

Whitman said al-Iraqi also met with Al-Qaeda members in Iran, but would not say when.

A fact sheet released by the Pentagon said al-Iraqi believed that Al-Qaeda members in Iran "should be doing more with the fight, including supporting efforts in Iraq and causing problems within Iran."

As a senior Al-Qaeda planner and operative, al-Iraqi "had fundamental responsibility for Al-Qaeda operations in that whole stretch of the world as well as other responsibilities," the intelligence official said.

"I would think of him in relation to the plot against Musharraf as someone who had a leadership or guiding role," he said.

Al-Iraqi was born in the northern Iraqi city of Mosul in 1961 and served in the Iraqi military before going to Afghanistan where he spent 15 years, according to the fact sheet.

Before the September 11, 2001 attacks on New York and Washington, he was a member of the Al-Qaeda military committee that oversaw terrorist and guerrilla operations and paramilitary training, the Pentagon said.

He also was a member of a 10-member group of advisors to Osama bin Laden, and was known and trusted by the Al-Qaeda leader and his deputy Ayman Al-Zawahiri, the Pentagon said.

It said that at one point al-Iraqi was Zawahiri's caretaker and that he interacted with top Al-Qaeda planners and decision makers such as Khalid Sheikh Mohammad, Abu Faraj al-Libi, Hamza Rabi'a and Abd al-Rahman al Mujair.

More recently, he associated with leaders of other extremist groups allied with Al-Qaeda in Afghanistan and Pakistan, including the Taliban, it said.

He worked "directly with the Taliban to determine responsibility and lines of communication between Taliban and Al-Qaeda leaders in Afghanistan, specifically with regard to the targeting of US forces," it said.
 

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I see our " friends " the saudis foiled a terrorist plot against the kingdom. Key word their kingdom. If that plot was headed our way, forgetaboutit ! To bad the world trade center wasn't in the kingdom, we may have got some help on that one. Anyone who thinks they are on our side in this fight better wake up. The saudis & anyone that has anything good to say about them can kiss my ass, including our president and the many other dopes in our government.
 

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Bush and his boyfriend
 
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One thing you have to remember is

One thing you have to remember is

the United States attacked Iraq first. We are the Red Coats now. Us and them, and them want us out of their country, can you blame them? We want their oil and that is why we can't leave. When Bush signs his VETO he will be signing it with American blood.
 

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I see our " friends " the saudis foiled a terrorist plot against the kingdom. Key word their kingdom. If that plot was headed our way, forgetaboutit ! To bad the world trade center wasn't in the kingdom, we may have got some help on that one. Anyone who thinks they are on our side in this fight better wake up. The saudis & anyone that has anything good to say about them can kiss my ass, including our president and the many other dopes in our government.
Tend to agree. Was encouraged by the heading of that one until I read the details that the plot was to attack oil fields in the Kingdom.

Dogs, it's always a tough week for terrorists. They are always being killed and captured. Unfortunatley they always recruiting and being born too. It's probably impossible for any of us to know who has a better or tougher week. Either way, it doesn't strategically validate the invasion of Iraq.
 

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I just got the latest tally. Our arm forces enlisted 20 thousand this month but Al quida enlisted 50 thousand and had to turn back another 50 thou.
 

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Looks like a bad week for US forces 9 dead Fri & Sat

Looks like a bad week for US forces 9 dead Fri & Sat

Wasn't it just last week 9 US soldiers were killed in Iraq? Well just yesterday and today there were 9 more. So this is Bush's plan? Keep the war going until he sneaks out the backdoor of the Whitehouse.The Great Dickcider, made sure his @ss never saw combat. Him and chickensh#t Cheney who said the American public does not have the stomach for war, this from a guy who got 5 military deferments, talk about not having the stomach. When does it all end?

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20070428/ap_on_re_mi_ea/iraq
 

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Wasn't it just last week 9 US soldiers were killed in Iraq? Well just yesterday and today there were 9 more. So this is Bush's plan? Keep the war going until he sneaks out the backdoor of the Whitehouse.The Great Dickcider, made sure his @ss never saw combat. Him and chickensh#t Cheney who said the American public does not have the stomach for war, this from a guy who got 5 military deferments, talk about not having the stomach. When does it all end?

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20070428/ap_on_re_mi_ea/iraq


Spy why would a guy who was never held responsible for anything in his life all the sudden want to be held responsible for something? He wants another blank thieving check for him and Cheney to continue the stealing they started with this joke of a war. Now he threatens a veto because the bill will show where the money goes.
Its not about time tables and all about not wanting anyone to know where the money will be spent.
 

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the United States attacked Iraq first. We are the Red Coats now. Us and them, and them want us out of their country, can you blame them? We want their oil and that is why we can't leave. When Bush signs his VETO he will be signing it with American blood.

fellini meets satan.......
 

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I guess we have to just realize conservatives and liberals have different perspectives--

Per your leading candidate for 08--

By BETH FOUHY

SAN DIEGO (AP) - Democrat Hillary Rodham Clinton denounced President Bush on Saturday for his "Mission Accomplished" speech and said his conduct of the Iraq war was "one of the darkest blots on leadership we've ever had."

Addressing delegates at the California State Democratic Party convention, Clinton said that if elected president in 2008, she would end the war. The New York senator also promised to "treat all Americans with dignity and equality no matter who you are and who you love." The pledge was clear bow to California's politically active and influential gay community.
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Now somehow as a conservative vet I found the day she describes as one of most enlightening days of war---you have aircraft carrier that was instrumental in taking out a country in 21 days--the pres flys in the day before they return home to gives them praise on "accomlishing their misson"
and they acknowledge him with cheers and pride (some tears) in their eyes--and Hiliary calls it one of darkest days:shrug:
--only if your a liberal--

Again as a conservative/vet my view a dark day would be when when we fail to secure a single embassy and they drag our soilders through streets and set them on fire and our pres retreats as the world watches and instead of troops applauding this commander and chief they turn their asses to him at the wall on vets day and he has to slink off without finishing his speech--so he can get back to more important matters--like shoving cigars up interns

--of course we have to give Hilliary benefit of doubt as no secret the Dem supporters come from the anti millitary code pink-moveon radicals and the Dems have dance to their tune.

---and have some bad news for hilliary--Carl Bernstein a staunch Dem is about to drop a load on her :)


From The Sunday TimesApril 29, 2007

Watergate reporter Bernstein takes apart Hillary?s career story
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/us_and_americas/article1719879.ece
 
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It does seem both sides had bad month. 100 U S Soldiers, killed. 136 injured. But big loser Iraq citizens. Best Est count over 2500 killed There are no winners or loser. Just people suffering. And for what?
I was just told over 2900 Iraq's.
And 151 U S sodiers injured.
 
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Well, we all know how important the Saudi's battle on terrorism in their own country, capturing the home-grown and trained terrorists before they attack their country is to Wayne. If only they had captured the ones that attacked us...now THAT would have been something. It's good to know how compassionate our administration is to the cause there, allowing Bin Ladens' fam to evacuate when others in our country were not allowed to even get up in the air to get to their families here in this country. Not that it was a bad idea to ground airplanes at that time...just seems like maybe that would have been the first airplane I would have stopped from taking off, and not making sure they got out? :shrug:

Strategy in the "War on Terrah." Isn't it something?
 

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I guess we have to just realize conservatives and liberals have different perspectives--
I THINK YOU AND OTHRS NEED TO REALIZE CONSERVATIVES HAVE DIFFERENT PERSPECTIVES. THERE ARE SOME LIKE YOU THAT BUT THE PARTY FIRST & OTHERS LIKE ME THAT PUT AMERICA FIRST !
Per your leading candidate for 08--

By BETH FOUHY

SAN DIEGO (AP) - Democrat Hillary Rodham Clinton denounced President Bush on Saturday for his "Mission Accomplished" speech and said his conduct of the Iraq war was "one of the darkest blots on leadership we've ever had."

Addressing delegates at the California State Democratic Party convention, Clinton said that if elected president in 2008, she would end the war. The New York senator also promised to "treat all Americans with dignity and equality no matter who you are and who you love." The pledge was clear bow to California's politically active and influential gay community.
+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

Now somehow as a conservative vet I found the day she describes as one of most enlightening days of war---you have aircraft carrier that was instrumental in taking out a country in 21 days--the pres flys in the day before they return home to gives them praise on "accomlishing their misson"
and they acknowledge him with cheers and pride (some tears) in their eyes--and Hiliary calls it one of darkest days:shrug:
--only if your a liberal--

Again as a conservative/vet my view a dark day would be when when we fail to secure a single embassy and they drag our soilders through streets and set them on fire and our pres retreats as the world watches and instead of troops applauding this commander and chief they turn their asses to him at the wall on vets day and he has to slink off without finishing his speech--so he can get back to more important matters--like shoving cigars up interns

--of course we have to give Hilliary benefit of doubt as no secret the Dem supporters come from the anti millitary code pink-moveon radicals and the Dems have dance to their tune.

---and have some bad news for hilliary--Carl Bernstein a staunch Dem is about to drop a load on her :)


From The Sunday TimesApril 29, 2007

Watergate reporter Bernstein takes apart Hillary?s career story
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/us_and_americas/article1719879.ece

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Again as a conservative/vet my view a dark day would be when when we fail to secure a single embassy and they drag our soilders through streets and set them on fire and our pres retreats as the world watches


Wayne,

I thought we had an agreement that every time (200x/yr approximately) you refer to Somalia, you would also include Ronnie Raygun running his ass out of Lebanon asap after Iranian funded/backed terrorists blew up 241 Marines.

Where does that (non) action rank to you, as a 'conservative/vet?'
 

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Wayne,

I thought we had an agreement that every time (200x/yr approximately) you refer to Somalia, you would also include Ronnie Raygun running his ass out of Lebanon asap after Iranian funded/backed terrorists blew up 241 Marines.

Where does that (non) action rank to you, as a 'conservative/vet?'

But that's kind of the old news in this post. Along with the vets turning their backs on Clinton because he was a draft-dodger

What's new in this post is that Bush didn't put tube socks the crotch pocket in his flight outfit to say that the war in Iraq was over. He was just telling one aircraft carrier that they did their job. One boat - nice job - that's what W was doin'

Nothing wrong with that. Last throes, indeed. Keep on keepin' on, Wayne.
 

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No the reason is-- I was referring to Hiliaries comments--and considering she could not recall under oath 50 times in 42 paragraph statement--I surely didn't think she could remember back to Reagan--

However since she has such recollection on hubby wanting to make him embassador of good will and all --I surely thought she could remember this episode when referring to darkest times.Which brings me back to where I started--
contrast in dark times for liberals/conservatives.

--in addition the ordeal in Lebanon was quite diff in that it was bombing of embassy and over in seconds--where Somlia was miltary operation that took 2 days for total retreat--
 

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Off topic comment, just highlighting for reference...clearly, memory of events are important to Wayne, so would assume he would hold Alberto Gonzales to the same standard during his testimony. Funny how the highest officer of our laws couldn't remember things about a bazillion times when asked specifics in his many meetings with subordinates. Carry on...just jotting this down.
 

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No the reason is-- I was referring to Hiliaries comments--and considering she could not recall under oath 50 times in 42 paragraph statement--I surely didn't think she could remember back to Reagan--

Oh, I see. I guess. :shrug:

However since she has such recollection on hubby wanting to make him embassador of good will and all --I surely thought she could remember this episode when referring to darkest times.Which brings me back to where I started--
contrast in dark times for liberals/conservatives.

I guess it's subjective, but Somalia and Ronnie Runnin Right out of Lebanon are so far below Vietnam and Iraq as among the 'darkest times' in our history, it's not even funny.



--in addition the ordeal in Lebanon was quite diff in that it was bombing of embassy and over in seconds--where Somlia was miltary operation that took 2 days for total retreat--

No idea what point you're attempting to make. I tried. I read it several times. I give up.
 
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