Barack W. Bush?

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July 10, 2008
Barack W. Bush?
By Victor Davis Hanson

Almost everyone is talking about Barack Obama's flip-flops, as the Senate's most liberal member steadily moves to the political center and disowns firebrands like Rev. Jeremiah Wright and Father Michael Pfleger.

But less noticed is that Obama is not just deflating John McCain's efforts to hold him to his long liberal record, but also embracing much of the present agenda of an unpopular President Bush on a wide variety of fronts.

Take social issues. Obama is now a gun-rights advocate. Like Bush, he applauded the Supreme Court's overturning of a Washington, D.C., ordinance banning the possession of handguns.
The senator, also like Bush, supports the death penalty. He recently objected to the court's rejection of a state law that allowed for the execution of child rapists.

And although Obama is still pro-choice, he now, like the president, thinks "mental distress" should not justify late-term abortion.

In addition, the new Obama would like to continue -- and even expand -- Bush's controversial faith-based initiative program of involving churches in government anti-poverty programs.
In fact, Obama is sounding a lot these days like those red-state, small-town conservatives he once caricatured in his infamous comment about Pennsylvanians who "cling" to such hot-button, but extraneous, social causes.

Consider also the campaign trail. Like a Republican in good standing -- but unlike the maverick John McCain -- Obama has, by his sudden forgoing of public funds, rejected the idea of campaign-finance reform.

In fact, he's the largest raiser of private cash in American political history, and seems to have dropped opposition to accepting pernicious "special interest money." Like a Republican, he raises the most among the nation's wealthiest on Wall Street.
During the primaries, Obama seemed to advocate the dismantling of the North American Free Trade Agreement. But now candidate Obama has little desire to overturn the present Bush trade policies.

On foreign policy and the war against terror, Obama once leaned left in his primary battles against Hillary Clinton. But his latest mutations move him once again closer to George Bush.
For all his prior talk of the loss of civil liberties, a President Obama, like a President Bush, would give telecommunication companies exemption from lawsuits over tapping private phone calls at government request.

Obama wants to continue Bush's successful multilateral efforts to fight the Taliban in Afghanistan, and now praises the Bush-inspired six-party talks with North Korea that led to the apparent dismantling of Pyongyang's nuclear program. Like Bush, he advocated expanding the military after the Clinton-era troop cuts. Obama once advocated lifting the embargo against Cuba -- but no longer. Like Bush, he thinks that it is wise to leave it be.
There is suddenly not much difference when it comes to the Middle East, either. Palestinian supporters were dismayed to hear Obama promise that Jerusalem must be Israel's eternal and undivided capital.

Obama once criticized Bush for his unwillingness to meet directly with Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad and exaggerating the danger from Iran, which supposedly didn't "pose any serious threat." Lately though, he agrees with the president that Iran now in fact is a "grave threat."

Obama's most serious about-face is on Iraq. He once promised a rigid and rapid timetable for withdrawing our troops. But given the radical success of Gen. David Petraeus' surge and change in tactics, Obama is now calling for withdrawals to be based on the conditions on the ground in Iraq. How different is this plan from the present administration's policy of incrementally sending home brigades as Petraeus hands off security responsibilities to Iraqis in additional provinces?

It makes political sense that Obama is moving to the center since he knows that a Northern liberal like himself has not won a presidential election since 1960. So don't expect Obama's metamorphosis to stop now. Before this campaign is over, he may well flip some more; would anybody be surprised if he starts supporting some of Bush's proposal for expanded domestic oil drilling or backtracks on raising trillions in new payroll taxes?

In fact, replace George Bush's Texas twang, cowboy strut and evangelical Bible thumping with Barack Obama's mellifluous "hope and change" rhetoric, easy grace and leftwing Christianity and we may discover a flashy new cover to an old book.

A final question: If, even as Obama trashes Bush, he seems to agree with him on so many fronts, why don't conservatives and Republicans adopt Obama as a welcome convert?

Some may, but most I've talked with don't think Obama is sincere and feel he will flip back to being left wing if elected. Or they think that Obama is changing so fast and so radically that it's hard to believe he really knows who he is -- or would be as president.

Victor Davis Hanson is a classicist and historian at the Hoover Institution, Stanford University, and author, most recently, of "A War Like No Other: How the Athenians and Spartans Fought the Peloponnesian War." You can reach him by e-mailing author@victorhanson.com.
 

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maybe mccain can use the obama flip flop on gun control, fisa and the iraq war....




"obama:..4 more years of the bush administration"

/:grins:

if the republicans weren`t almost as lame as the libs,they`d have g.w.b. publicly thank bock for his vote on "fisa"....

can you just imagine the steam coming out of the ears of the "progressive/sclu" types?....

but,unfortunately,the republicans are way to inert..
 
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As stated earlier. Neocons are everywhere. The only thing Obama had going for him was that we did not know much about him. If it turns out he is also a Neocon then we are truly screwed. But, for now anyway, the neocons on this board should be thrilled with both McCain and Obama spewing the neocon bull$hit.
 

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Welcome aboard, gw

happy to be aboard on this one.....

yeah barack!:clap: ....a few more of these and i`ll be totin` a "change" bumper sticker...

i applaud him....most libs don't want us to protect our country, or the people/corporations that are helping the country out, from groups that want to do harm to us...

i wonder what exactly do they suggest law enforcement's or the military's tools should be if not to listen in on their conversations?.

i mean, we broke german and japanese codes during w.w.II...

would the liberals be opposed to that kind of intelligence gathering?...

would they rather have another 9/11 rather than doing something to prevent it?

unfortunately,i think the the answer has to be "yes"......

they will say the founding fathers would be appalled...our freedoms are being trampled on by chickenhawks...america should examine what she has done to the world first...they'll say many such siilly things.....

but they all amount to one thing: ...they wish to make this country weaker because 1)- bush can never be right,... 2)- america deserves it.....


i just can`t fathom the liberal brain...:shrug:
 

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Obama's smart, the first thing is to get into the Whitehouse before you can change things. No stealing the WH this time for republicans.
 

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Easy, fellas. Remember, Obama is, um, black. Wayne does have his limitations in supporting folks.
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damn

for a minute there I thought Wayne had really come aboard. :SIB


I guess it was just a smug attempt to link Obama like McCain has been linked to Bush and Cheney.
 

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Welcome aboard, Wayne

Thank you Bobby I would vote for him before Jessie--

--Only prob I see is he is subject to change again tomorrow depending whose votes he's soliciting--
Prefer someone I can trust to stick to their guns in good times and bad. That won't let the blogs/media dictate their decisions.

Don't think anyone including Obama knows what he do when chips are down. Right now bout only thing we have to base opinion on is character
--and close associates ;)
 

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Rove won't even let McCain support his own legislation! And Gramm says one thing and McCain another. Yet Gramm works for McCain:shrug: And wasn't McCain part of that Keating thing? Close friends.....:mj07:
 
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Easy, fellas. Remember, Obama is, um, black. Wayne does have his limitations in supporting folks.

I like to share a story with you Chad.
Every Sat and Sun I leave office early (9am or so)and practice short game (golf) @ Heartland

Last Saturday I'm putting on green and there is hotel parking lot about 80 yards from green.

I see a young couple (black) walk to their "looked like new" car and they get out camera- and boy takes couple pics of girl next to car--then they reverse rolls. Next I see them stand by car together and try and hold camera out and get both them both in pic. After 1st try I see them look at camera and shake their heads.
I lay putter down on green--walk across parking lot and ask them if they would like me to take some pics of them together--and did so.

Not a bad gesture for a racist--was it. :)
 

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I like to share a story with you Chad.
Every Sat and Sun I leave office early (9am or so)and practice short game (golf) @ Heartland

Last Saturday I'm putting on green and there is hotel parking lot about 80 yards from green.

I see a young couple (black) walk to their "looked like new" car and they get out camera- and boy takes couple pics of girl next to car--then they reverse rolls. Next I see them stand by car together and try and hold camera out and get both them both in pic. After 1st try I see them look at camera and shake their heads.
I lay putter down on green--walk across parking lot and ask them if they would like me to take some pics of them together--and did so.

Not a bad gesture for a racist--was it. :)

Was your car n the same parking lot? You sure were paying a lot of attention to them
 

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Usually it's 'I have many black friends', not 'I took a picture of them.'

Oh well, it's all good.

Matt Can't say I have lots of black friends--have very few in fact. Have never had 1st black person come into my office in 25 years on insurance matters--so hard to have friends you never meet.
The few I have- met through golf - or work at places I frequent.

Bobby--My car was only bout 10 yards from me in Heartlands parking lot--theirs was in Hotel parking lot.

There are times you guys have me wondering myself.
:)
 
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