Barry Bonds Thread

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When comparison to Bond/Clinton was so obvious you don't get much response---as usual--what other retort do liberals have- the facts are staring them in the face.:)
Have there been any rumors of Bonds stuffing cigars up the batgirls.:shrug:

The softballs when end if Hilliary gets nomination-unless she refuses debates except on CNN (Clinton News Network) which is highly probable.


Wow. You are amazing....for all the wrong reasons.

Please spell out how the cheating, dope injecting, perjuring athlete compares to Senator Clinton.

Has anyone else read "Game of Shadows"? If you have, this indictment is no surprise. They have a lot of dirt on Bonds and I was surprised he wasn't already indicted when I read it last month. The dude is guilty as all hell.

Jack: While I don't have your streak beat in length, I have it in winning %. I have yet to vote for a winner in presidential elections. For the most part,I have used my vote as a protest vote against the 2 party system, voting for 3rd party candidates. The exception was in 2004 when I was so desperate to get Bush out of office I voted for Kerry.
 

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"Please spell out how the cheating, dope injecting, perjuring athlete compares to Senator Clinton. "
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Groz if you read intial post I'm not comparing Hilliary to Bonds--the correlation is on character of individuals.We have identicle crimes- and demands on one for prison time--and Hilliary wanting to make the other U.S. Embassador of Goodwill for the U.S.

Tell me you don't find it a bit hypocritical.

--We'll disregard my thoughts on Billybob--lets just take the legal description from his peers--

from Petition to disbar Clinton/Ark Supreme Court
http://www.freerepublic.com/forum/a395d6de161cf.htm

15 Mr. Clinton's conduct found and adjudged by Judge Wright in the Order, constitutes "Serious Misconduct" as defined by Section 7B(3) of the Procedures, which defines "serious misconduct" as conduct involving "dishonesty, deceit, fraud and misrepresentation by the lawyer."

--then tack on the numerous other acts of personal malfeasa and scams/gates--and you have a pres candidate (Hilliary) wanting to promote a person that makes Bonds look like a boyscout as our embassador--somehow I have a slight prob with that--but thats just me:shrug:
 

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I've seen up close the two Clintons America knows. He's a big smile, hand locked on your arm and lots of charms. "Hey, come down and speak at my library. I'd like to talk some politics with you."

And her? She tends to be, well, hard and brittle. I inherited her West Wing office. Shortly after the 2001 Inauguration, I made a little talk saying I appreciated having the office because it had the only full-length vanity mirror in the West Wing, which gave me a chance to improve my rumpled appearance. The senator from New York confronted me shortly after and pointedly said she hadn't put the mirror there. I hadn't said she did, just that the mirror was there. So a few weeks later, in another talk, I repeated the story about the mirror. And shortly thereafter, the junior senator saw me and, again, without a hint of humor or light in her voice, icily said she'd heard I'd repeated the story of the mirror and she ? did ? not ? put ? that mirror in the office.

It is a small but telling story: she is tough, persistent and forgets nothing. Those are some of the reasons she is so formidable as a contender, and why Republicans who think she would be easy to beat are wrong. The Republican presidential nomination is the most fluid and unpredictable contest in decades, but the Democratic nominee is likely to be Hillary. Not without a fight, not without losing early contests (probably Iowa, for starters) and not without bruises and bumps.

And so the question to John McCain from a woman at a town hall in South Carolina last Monday was tasteless, but key: "How do we beat the [rhymes with witch]?" Right now, Republicans are focusing much of their fire on Senator Clinton. Criticizing her unites the party, stirs up the unsettled feelings many swing voters have toward her and allows each candidate to say why he is best able to beat her. For now, that's enough. But when a GOP nominee emerges, he needs to remember no Republican is as well known as Hillary. The Republican has room to grow in the polls as voters get a better sense of who he is and what animates him. Here's what he needs to do.

Plan now to introduce yourself again right after winning the nomination. Don't assume everyone knows you. Many will still not know what you've done in real life. Create a narrative that explains your life and commitments. Every presidential election is about change and the future, not the past. So show them who you are in a way that gives the American people hope, optimism and insight. That's the best antidote to the low approval rates of the Republican president. Those numbers will not help the GOP candidate, just as the even lower approval ratings of the Congress will not help the Democratic standard-bearer.

Say in authentic terms what you believe. The GOP nominee must highlight his core convictions to help people understand who he is and to set up a natural contrast with Clinton, both on style and substance. Don't be afraid to say something controversial. The American people want their president to be authentic. And against a Democrat who calculates almost everything, including her accent and laugh, being seen as someone who says what he believes in a direct way will help.

Tackle issues families care about and Republicans too often shy away from. Jobs, the economy, taxes and spending will be big issues this campaign, but some issues that used to be "go to" ones for Republicans, like crime and welfare, don't have as much salience. Concerns like health care, the cost of college and social mobility will be more important. The Republican nominee needs to be confident in talking about these concerns and credible in laying out how he will address them. Be bold in approach and presentation.

Go after people who aren't traditional Republicans. Aggressively campaign for the votes of America's minorities. Go to their communities, listen and learn, demonstrate your engagement and emphasize how your message can provide hope and access to the American Dream for all. The GOP candidate must ask for the vote in every part of the electorate. He needs to do better among minorities, and be seen as trying.

Be strong on Iraq. Democrats have bet on failure. That's looking to be an increasingly bad wager, given the remarkable progress seen recently in Iraq. If the question is who will get out quicker, the answer is Hillary. The Republican candidate wants to recast the question to: who will lead America to victory in a vital battleground in the War on Terror? There will be contentious fights over funding the troops and over intelligence-gathering right after the parties settle on their candidates. Both battles will help the Republican candidate demonstrate who will be stronger in winning the new struggle of the 21st century.

The conventional wisdom now is that Hillary Clinton will be the next president. In reality, she's eminently beatable. Her contentious history evokes unpleasant memories. She lacks her husband's political gifts and rejects much of the centrism he championed. The health-care fiasco showed her style and ideology. All of which helps explain why, for a front runner in an open race for the presidency, she has the highest negatives in history.

While the prospective Republican nominee is talking about her now, the time will come soon when he must spend more time telling his story. By explaining to voters why he deserves to be our next president, he will also make clear why that job should not go to another person named Clinton.

Rove, former senior adviser and deputy chief of staff for President Bush, is a NEWSWEEK contributor.
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I just want to thank you guys for GW Bush. What a great American president. I guess the only question is who picks up the 9 trillion$ tab and cleans up the disaster in Iraq? Oh yeah, I forgot, its either the polygamous secret underwear guy or this fine American....

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the leader of your "think" tank


In 1960, at the age of nine, Rove decided to support Richard Nixon in which he got into physical fight with a politically-motivated girl and lost.
source: Wikipedia.
 

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WASHINGTON (CNN) -- President Bush on Monday spared I. Lewis "Scooter" Libby from prison, commuting the former White House aide's 30-month prison term.

The prison time was imposed after a federal court convicted Libby of perjury, obstruction of justice and lying to investigators in the probe of the leak of the name of a CIA operative.

I guess if you lie about a blow job its an outrage...but if its for outing a CIA operative, then its ok.
 

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While the prospective Republican nominee is talking about her now, the time will come soon when he must spend more time telling his story. By explaining to voters why he deserves to be our next president, he will also make clear why that job should not go to another person named Clinton.

gee, I wonder where the "anyone but Clinton" slogan comes from? That is all you guys have?

We don't know who or what we support, we just know who we want to take down. What a great vision for America.
 

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WASHINGTON (CNN) -- President Bush on Monday spared I. Lewis "Scooter" Libby from prison, commuting the former White House aide's 30-month prison term.

The prison time was imposed after a federal court convicted Libby of perjury, obstruction of justice and lying to investigators in the probe of the leak of the name of a CIA operative.

I guess if you lie about a blow job its an outrage...but if its for outing a CIA operative, then its ok.

Let me understand if I'm correct here Jabbers--
You have problem with man having sentence commuted who was initially charged for crime that was found to never have occurred--
--but no prob with pres-that pardon disfuntional family for selling drugs-most wanted criminals for cash--sends his cabinet member in to steal archives to cover his ass--

and on your--
"Swiftboat smear tactics is all thats left of what was once the grand old party."

Thats exactly what Hilliary said before she found out Billy Bob was shoving cigars up interns--
Does that make her the most stupid-or naive wife--and what does does it say about her self esteem to stay with a serial molester/liar--after the fact.

Hilliary on Billy Bob from Wikipedia

Events surrounding the Lewinsky scandal eventually led to the impeachment of Bill Clinton. When the allegations against her husband were first made public, Hillary Clinton stated that they were the result of a "vast right-wing conspiracy",[158] characterizing the Lewinsky charges as the latest in a long, organized, collaborative series of charges by Clinton political enemies,[159] rather than any wrongdoing by her husband.
 
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why are you so obsessed with Bill Clinton's sexual infidelities?

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I think its because his friggin wife is running for the highest office in the land.

If she had divorced Slick willy , I would be voting for her in 2008.

The only reason she didnt was to use him to get something she really wanted. Voila !

Democrats are so easy to read.
 

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Scott, one factor that you Hillary-haters conveniently ignore when attacking her personal life is how well adjusted Chelsea is. The Clintons must have done SOMETHING right to have raised such a fine young lady.
 
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