big play - colts again

[the addict]

Brady awesome and hoodie is fantastic....again I love how they do business....I just cannot look at the run they had in the 2000's w/o thinking of it...never will....


And yes they are still fantastic and top tier....just havent been able to get it done since then and I am only stating it because someone said they would be "shocked" if Indy wins....I am just explaining why I wouldnt be if it happens....meant nothing against pats...they are still good...

 

[ldabdou]

I'll be on this one as well. I really believe the Colts can stop the Pats more than the Pats can stop the Colts if it's another shootout game like the Pats just played. Also, it's tough coming back the next week after a physical game like they were just in. Pats might squeak out another win but I'll have some money on the Colts ML as well, just in case they don't.

Colts barely broke a sweat last time out and Andrew barely smelt any defenders breath...:0008

 

[Blitz]

But literally filming other teams practices so you know WHAT PLAY THEY ARE GOING TO RUN DURING THE GAME....how you can try and downgrade and minimize how much of a significant advantage that is is crazy....thats why its not allowed man.

This is a common misconception. The Patriots were not taping other teams practices. What they were accused of and admitted to, was filming the defensive signals of opposing teams during games.

It is a known fact that other teams were doing this at one time, but the league came out with a memo telling teams to stop this and Belichick was too arrogant and didn't stop. They were wrong and were punished for it. It can be debated how much advantage could been gained during the game itself, maybe future games, but if you are an NFL team and are not constantly changing signs you shouldn't be coaching. Again, they were wrong for doing it, but in my opinion, IF they got any benefit doing this it could not have been that much.

 

[Bisket23]

considering all their super bowl wins were by 3 pts.........it would be dumb to downplay that it had no impact at all.


people predicting pats titles every year remind of me people yearning for the old days that will never comeback. Brady/Belichick will never win another super bowl

 

[the addict]

This is a common misconception. The Patriots were not taping other teams practices. What they were accused of and admitted to, was filming the defensive signals of opposing teams during games.

It is a known fact that other teams were doing this at one time, but the league came out with a memo telling teams to stop this and Belichick was too arrogant and didn't stop. They were wrong and were punished for it. It can be debated how much advantage could been gained during the game itself, maybe future games, but if you are an NFL team and are not constantly changing signs you shouldn't be coaching. Again, they were wrong for doing it, but in my opinion, IF they got any benefit doing this it could not have been that much.

yea I apologize I did think it was practices....I though I remember hearing something about prior to one of the SB's......but yea anything I said that wasn't correct I apologize I did not intend in anyway for this to be an anti-pats thread.....its more about what I think Luck and colts are, rather then what I think the pats are not.....


I again was just making a point on why I wouldn't be shocked if they went to new England and won.....

 

[the addict]

considering all their super bowl wins were by 3 pts.........it would be dumb to downplay that it had no impact at all.

people predicting pats titles every year remind of me people yearning for the old days that will never comeback. Brady/Belichick will never win another super bowl

Yea I agree. 3 pt margin of victory, while knowing what plays were coming? Gotta imagine the outcomes would be different....


I will always remember it for that.....really good teams...who probably could've won without cheating....but chose different tthen all other orginizations and did....

Again, I still think brady and bellicik akd Kraft with a "k" are top notch talents at what they do.....and still have been great....but for me and I know a lot of other people, I will always remember it different

 

[Kyle8]

This is a common misconception. The Patriots were not taping other teams practices. What they were accused of and admitted to, was filming the defensive signals of opposing teams during games.

It is a known fact that other teams were doing this at one time, but the league came out with a memo telling teams to stop this and Belichick was too arrogant and didn't stop. They were wrong and were punished for it. It can be debated how much advantage could been gained during the game itself, maybe future games, but if you are an NFL team and are not constantly changing signs you shouldn't be coaching. Again, they were wrong for doing it, but in my opinion, IF they got any benefit doing this it could not have been that much.

The tapes were destroyed by the NFL before anyone on the outside was allowed to see them, the FACTS of what was taped and what wasn't are and will forever be unknown. With a coach like Belichick there was hands down an unfair advantage and I don't think that can be argued.

 

[the addict]

Adding:


Greenbay over 46.5
Greenbay +7.5



So gb and over and colts +7.5

GL

 

[the addict]

May buy out of gb total


That was purely a gut play...numbers I had showed slight advantage over but notcenougg tocwarrant much of a play...my gut just said take it. ...now my heads questioning it

Sea defense has been great

But no where like last year

Cam newton and the no threat offense panthers scored 17 and moved the ball successfully enough to have 24+


So I figured gb would easily get 20+ seeing as jon stewart and demarco are each backs who found success...and I think lacy and the GB line are just as capable of performing equally if not better...if rodgers was 100% I would not be 2nd guessing.....but seattle may load up and force a less mobile rodgers to chuck it 30+ against a secondary loaded w/talent.....chancellor and thomas are probably 1/2 in terms of the saftey position and guys who bring unique skill sets....sherman, although impossible to listen to, is top tier.....and they have LBs who can cover under talented TES quarless/rodgers

Cobb must be huge again....jordy has to create vs sherman....

But that being said, i can see this turning into a field position game.....seattle lacks playmakers at wr/te and as long as greenbay can stop the run, seattle will struggle moving rock as well..right?


I loved the over as GB can usually score at will and sea has been more vulnerable....and sea can hit big plays usually wilson ability to extend plays and then let lynch eat....

But I think because of AROD injury and sea being very dependent on run that each team could jockey for field position early and try and just make the other team make the first mistake



I am as of now still on the over, but would love to hear the more knowledgeable opinions...anyone have any strong opinion either way

I am so back and forth

 

[the addict]

Off gb total

Not confident on it


This is the best final 4 in while I think

 

[Jord20]

Off gb total Not confident on it This is the best final 4 in while I think

Interesting. I think it's the worst final 4 I can remember. Not a huge fan of any of the 4.

Gl addict

 

[the addict]

Interesting. I think it's the worst final 4 I can remember. Not a huge fan of any of the 4.

Gl addict

Yea maybe you are right....still I love the matchups


I think new england has their best team since 07...browner/revis allow you so much freedom on defense at other positions....and brady has 5+ weapons that can make plays....amendola gronk edelman lafell blount vereen....team is very good

Seattle remains dominant team and are trying to repeat....perhaps best back to back defensive units ever?

GB has so many weapons plus a great o-line....and defense thats creative....I dont know if there are many teams in the history of league that can score like GB when everything is clicking..

Indy has the Best qb in regards to 1st 3 years of ones career....and a team/coach that has tons of talent.....luck close to blockbuster deal to pay him a ton....people forget he ran a 40 time close to RG3...Guy can do so many things....


Maybe not the best final 4 but it is the one I have been most excited to see in long time...

Gl jord hope you have profitable weekend

 

[the addict]

Good call whover took pats


Suppose itll be helluva SB

 

[Barber]

I never thought the Colts would win. Too bad I had NO balls to call it. WOW. I thought it would be a Green Bay/New England Super Bowl based on the 3rd quarter of the last game. Wow.