Bo Ryan
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I scratched my head about the ending but Bo Ryan is the BEST COACH in the country.. I am not a Wisky fan but this guy never has the top recruits and are in contention every year. He does the most with the least when it comes to big time hoops.
I agree Bo Ryan is a great coach, but he fucked up tonight big...why rest your big men with 2 fouls when the backups suck donkey balls. I understand if the backups are serviceable, but those guys couldn't have started in any decent recreation league. He coached a horrid game and believe most Wisky fans would agree.
good solid coach...nowhere near the best coach in the country....it's college basketball.....50% of his job is recruiting so if he's not getting the top recruits then that's his fault
0 final fours
1 elite 8
not sure if he's ever beat a higher seed
his style os perfect for this tournament as its leads to solid low scoring games where they can beat similar or inferior teams but vs elite teams with nba talent its been close but no cigar
Well, if it's all about recruits, Roy Williams with 7 MCD's AA's and Calipari should be in the final game. It's more that recruits IMHO... but, it helps to have the best and longest athletes like Calamari has this year and yes, I did spell his name Calamari on purpose. Can't stand the guy.
Wisconsin is never going to get the top basketball recruits, not going to happen. If he coached at Duke or the Kentuckys then he would get the top recruits. Coach K, Callipari, and Ol Roy really don't have to recruit hard. They come to him or they are hoping to be on those team's radar..
i think no matter where he coaches he gets the same kind of players....he's a system guy and it's not very friendly to highly talented players....
put him a duke-kansas-unc-kentucky and he's got a similar roster that he does at wisc
i'd put him 4th in his own conference (izzo-matta-crean )
put him a duke-kansas-unc-kentucky and he's got a similar roster that he does at wisc
i'd put him 4th in his own conference (izzo-matta-crean )
Shit, I'll give Ryan credit, he runs a tight system offense and coaches better than most. Hell, I love Self and his teams choke all the time in the tourney, but they already choked vs Purdue and feel like they'll at least beat NC State now. Slef can coach better than most of the above guys named and Danny Manning does wonders with KU's big men (yes, I will say Danny Manning is the best big man coach in the country). KU has a lot of good coaching things going, but their best is Manning as the Big Man coach and he does wonders with KU's big men (look at Withey, Robinson, etc). Heck, the Morris twins would still be at KU if Manning didn't teach them so much. He's a legend with big men and KU fans know it... knowone is better in the country... give him Kentucky or UNC's recruits and they would dominate in the NBA. Guy is arguably the best assistant big man coach in America. Always get the best out of KU's big men.:00hour
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Head to head Ryan owns Izzo. You can make still make a case for Izzo and Matta. Crean? why?
You can say what you want about not using the time out (I agree they should've done it to get Berggren in the game), but the reason they lost is they lacked an athlete that could penetrate the zone and get in the paint. They had to settle for a fade away 3....
The Badgers play a brand of basketball, that if played right, can beat a lot of teams. They hit 3s, play great defense, but when they needed someone to make a big bucket, all they got was a 25 foot 3 ball fading away from the basket.
I think Bo is a great coach and does what he can with what he has. Sure I would like to see championships at Wisconsin, but his team is top 15 every year and they compete at a high level. They probably had no business being in that game, but they got stops and were on fire from the 3.
The Badgers play a brand of basketball, that if played right, can beat a lot of teams. They hit 3s, play great defense, but when they needed someone to make a big bucket, all they got was a 25 foot 3 ball fading away from the basket.
I think Bo is a great coach and does what he can with what he has. Sure I would like to see championships at Wisconsin, but his team is top 15 every year and they compete at a high level. They probably had no business being in that game, but they got stops and were on fire from the 3.
Ryan had to put one of those guys back in the first half (before Bruise at that 1:30 mark), and that was obvious to anybody watching who even has a little bb sense. Kaminsky became the key man of the set offense that all the motion ran through, and he was scared of the ball; he couldn't finish when he was open and he made the wrong passes.
Wisky will always have a nice program, graduate seniors, win at home, beat top 25 schools, and compete in conference, but their style of play sucks, and they will never be more than a sweet 16 team every year. Yawn...
Wisky will always have a nice program, graduate seniors, win at home, beat top 25 schools, and compete in conference, but their style of play sucks, and they will never be more than a sweet 16 team every year. Yawn...
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bluechip basketball recruits are not going to the middle of the freezing top portion of the USA to play basketball..
no hot babes..no big cities..and no downtown action.
Take a look at the results of National Championships for basketball and football and convince me that bluechipers want to go to the middle of nowhere to play football or basketball..
ESPECIALLY now in hoops with the one and done..
go hang out in Conn.and SYRC[close to the NY basketball hub] or UNC and DUKE[pro stop over motel] or FLA. and KAN. with good coaches and pro ties as well.
Kentucky is back on the scene [who will take any "one and done" who wants to chase those beautiful babes and shot some hoops for a couple semester]
UNC..DUKE..SYRC..CONN. and once again Kentucky split up the superstars and the rest of the bucket colleges scramble for the rest..
you can coach and recruit your ass off..ya don't get a couple guys on their way to the bigger dollars ya ain't winning scata.
no hot babes..no big cities..and no downtown action.
Take a look at the results of National Championships for basketball and football and convince me that bluechipers want to go to the middle of nowhere to play football or basketball..
ESPECIALLY now in hoops with the one and done..
go hang out in Conn.and SYRC[close to the NY basketball hub] or UNC and DUKE[pro stop over motel] or FLA. and KAN. with good coaches and pro ties as well.
Kentucky is back on the scene [who will take any "one and done" who wants to chase those beautiful babes and shot some hoops for a couple semester]
UNC..DUKE..SYRC..CONN. and once again Kentucky split up the superstars and the rest of the bucket colleges scramble for the rest..
you can coach and recruit your ass off..ya don't get a couple guys on their way to the bigger dollars ya ain't winning scata.
I'd agree that was a terrible ending for WI last night.... people have pointed out that WI shot very well from 3.... let's not forget, Syracuse shot the lights out too - against a team that normally doesn't allow teams to shoot well.
It was a good game for both teams - only 1 could win - and it could have been either team.
Regarding recruiting, yes Bo has a tough time. It is a tough sell to come to WI. His system isn't flashy - and guys are required to play defense to get on the court. A lot of kids just want to run and gun, NBA style, and ignore the D. That just makes it harder for them to come to WI.
BUT, Coach BO does have the #18 ranked high school player coming to WI next year. Name is Sam Dekker - a 6'8" kid out of a small school in Sheboygan. Yes, it is a small school, but he tore it up on the AAU circuit the last 2 summers, so he's ranked highly nationwide for a reason....
Oh yea, in the state tournament, Dekker had 35 points, 16 rebounds and 7 blocks in the semi-finals, and for the championship, he had 40 points - including 12 in the last 50 seconds of the game, hitting a 3 pointer while moving to his right with 2 guys on him to win the game.
He has a chance to be a good one.....
It was a good game for both teams - only 1 could win - and it could have been either team.
Regarding recruiting, yes Bo has a tough time. It is a tough sell to come to WI. His system isn't flashy - and guys are required to play defense to get on the court. A lot of kids just want to run and gun, NBA style, and ignore the D. That just makes it harder for them to come to WI.
BUT, Coach BO does have the #18 ranked high school player coming to WI next year. Name is Sam Dekker - a 6'8" kid out of a small school in Sheboygan. Yes, it is a small school, but he tore it up on the AAU circuit the last 2 summers, so he's ranked highly nationwide for a reason....
Oh yea, in the state tournament, Dekker had 35 points, 16 rebounds and 7 blocks in the semi-finals, and for the championship, he had 40 points - including 12 in the last 50 seconds of the game, hitting a 3 pointer while moving to his right with 2 guys on him to win the game.
He has a chance to be a good one.....
So you are saying that if Ryan coached those schools his teams would finish 4th in the conference be a 4 - 5 seed in the tourney brackets. He might have the similar type of player running the systems but they would be better at every facet than WI
I also think Bo is a good enough coach that IF he had the "atheletes" as Gin23 said, his offense would change to reflect that.
It is tough getting top recruits to come to Madison - for many reasons.
It will be interesting to see if the offense will change to utilize Dekker's talents - who is the highest profile recruit that Bo had had in many years, maybe ever...... (only other highly ranked guy I can remember was Brian Butch - and Dekker is ranked higher than Butch was coming out of HS)
