Bob Woodward/60 Minutes

[Captain Crunch]

That wasn't much of a rant, Captain Crunch.

I know, I just ate a big dinner and that was the best I can do considering. I'm not much of a pot stirrer, but I'm already sick of the commercials and I think you guys have made your points about two months ago. I can't wait to see what is in store between now and November. Which camp will play the most dirty pool will keep things interesting. Good Luck

 

[Tenzing]

listen up

listen up

Woodward is a democratic frontman who wouldn't dare dream about writing an expose of how the Carter administration was responsible for all of today's Mideast woes, but is perfectly content to off for publication a book WHERE ONLY ONE PERSON IS QUOTED. ONLY ONE. IN THE WHOLE DAMN BOOK. Everyone else is anonymous. I think we can see where this shit leads. When Clark was asked point blank if the implementation of any of his suggestions would have caused 911 to never have occured, he said, well no. Agian just another stooge.
I am so tired of these liberal america haters, whose only only 2 goals in life are to defame america and get Democrats elected. Period, **** everything else.
If you don't like the fact that every election official in each of the the contested counties in Florida was a democratically elected DEMOCRAT, LEAVE MY COUNTRY AND GO BACK TO EUROPE. But of course, Bush tried to steal the election, by makjing those Democrats use antiquated technology, and have all the liberal media report that Florida was for Bush, 65 minutes before polls closed in western Florida, discouraging people from voting period, but for Gore and for Bush....
You are just a Russian insurgent who wants to make our country like your mind, i.e., full of shit.

 

[ctownguy]

Man your not only a gutless internet coward, but your dellusional also. Were you wacking off thinking about being with a woman, your so sorry it's pathetic.

 

[Eddie Haskell]

Spoken like a true Texan.

Ed

 

[kosar]

Re: listen up

Re: listen up

Woodward is a democratic frontman who wouldn't dare dream about writing an expose of how the Carter administration was responsible for all of today's Mideast woes, but is perfectly content to off for publication a book WHERE ONLY ONE PERSON IS QUOTED. ONLY ONE. IN THE WHOLE DAMN BOOK. Everyone else is anonymous. I think we can see where this shit leads. When Clark was asked point blank if the implementation of any of his suggestions would have caused 911 to never have occured, he said, well no. Agian just another stooge.
I am so tired of these liberal america haters, whose only only 2 goals in life are to defame america and get Democrats elected. Period, **** everything else.
If you don't like the fact that every election official in each of the the contested counties in Florida was a democratically elected DEMOCRAT, LEAVE MY COUNTRY AND GO BACK TO EUROPE. But of course, Bush tried to steal the election, by makjing those Democrats use antiquated technology, and have all the liberal media report that Florida was for Bush, 65 minutes before polls closed in western Florida, discouraging people from voting period, but for Gore and for Bush....
You are just a Russian insurgent who wants to make our country like your mind, i.e., full of shit.

Captain Crunch,

Now see. *This* is a rant. And we even learned something. Jimmy Carter is responsible for all of the Middle Easts woes.

 

[Eddie Haskell]

Kosar:

You are dead wrong. It was Truman. Ike tried to remedy the problem, but then they elected Kennedy, who, followed by Johnson, screwed it all up again.

You must learn your history. The foregoing was a direct quote from a soon to be released book by Dick Cheney co-authored by Donald Rumsfeld called, "The Modern History of the United States of America".

Eddie

 

[kosar]

Eddie,

Oh, I know it wasn't Carter. I don't think ot was Truman, though. It's always been my belief that if FDR had realized that America was the 'dosage of medicine for peace in the Middle East', as Wilson says, we wouldn't be in this mess.

 

[Fat & Sassy]

Don't worry ctownguy... My sister's a dancer in AC.. I have asked her to find eddie based on his profile... She's 5'6"- 112 lbs. and will be him beyond recognition...


button sewing cupcake.....

wned: ;142loser:

 

[Fat & Sassy]

"she will beat him beyond recognition"..

Shit....

 

[Fat & Sassy]

lol

 

[ctownguy]

That's funny fat & sassy:142lmao: :142smilie

 

[DOGS THAT BARK]

I don't know if Woodwards statement of Saudi releasing oil before election is correct, as I don't put much confidence in these book sellers from either side and the timing is convenient.--but from a logical standpoint, considering Saudi Arabia's ambassador to Washington, Prince Bandar bin Sultan is close friend of Bush family for years and Saudi's efforts to fight terror with this administration, I would say it is a distinct possiblity.

However I view the consequences of falling gas prices less than the consequeces I fear of the otherside trying to garner the liberal vote as they did in Spain with some similiar tactic.

You can say what you want but the Spain ordeal was a huge victory for terrorist as it proved effective in turning election and don't think they will not use it again. However I believe it could back fire on them if done here. As only the farthest of the left would hit the streets in protest and 911 showed us even the liberal NY area joined in unity in the aftermath.---which brings me to point that we were attacked before invasion of Afgan and Iraq without provoking the terrorist 1st. So don't be naive and think further attacks would be solely in retaliation for our actions in mideast. However that is what they would have you to believe and as always there will be those that do.

 

[djv]

That Seems strange there attacking us for no reason at all. We must have done something to piss these people off. It started in 1983. Maybe our stand with Israel. Something had to push them.
Saudi Is no great friend. They let the money flow for some of these groups right through Suadi. Could they help with the gas prices after there done stealing from all of us. Maybe. If the price starts to drop because they open the valves more by July. There so many games being played right here in the states with the priceing. How the hell can it range from 157 to 239, a gal. I understand some states have no tax and some as high as 25 cents. Then they use the normal BS for Calf that the blend cost 30 cents more to produce. Add all that chit up and it still does not come to a 80 cents swing. Someone is Fu?? us good. I see oil proffits are way up.

 

[gardenweasel]

in all honesty

in all honesty

isn`t it quite a coincidence that all these anti-administration books come out several months before an election...
the dems are pulling out all the stops to remove george....

woodward certainly does seem to love unnamed sources....


and i think that yyz hit the nail on the head.....we`re trapped with the 2 party system..nothing much will change...

didn`t kerry vote to go to war?.......didn`t he think his position through thoroughly?.....



we bitch about oil companies and walmart and other monopolistic consortiums and the most agregious one sits right in front of us.....hiding in plain sight....

the 2 party system...

 

[Turfgrass]

One point should be remembered when considering Woodward's charges. It was under the Clinton administration, not the Bush administration, when the decision to remove Saddam Hussein from power in Iraq was made; in 1998, to be more precise. That's when the United States adopted the official position that regime change in Iraq was our national goal. What, then, is so surprising about a president developing a plan to achieve a national goal?

Woodward on CBS's 60 Minutes pushing the book, which, by the way, is published by the same company that owns CBS. In the book Woodward delivers an almost verbatim narrative of the events leading up to the invasion of Iraq. The problem is that, with the exception of President Bush and Vice President Cheney, none of those quotes are attributed. In other words ... you make a choice on whether to believe Bob Woodward, or not to believe him.

I also hear that Woodward has much to say about Bush's reliance on Vice President Cheney and other senior advisors. The crime here seems to be that George Bush surrounded himself with bright, intelligent and capable people; people whose advice he actually considered and followed. I guess Bush should have known that he was supposed to surround himself with pathetic yes-men with no compelling ideas of independent thought processes.

GardenWeasel: "isn`t it quite a coincidence that all these anti-administration books come out several months before an election...
the dems are pulling out all the stops to remove george.... "

Ditto

 

[djv]

There out to soon. If they were smart they all would have been out June, July, August. No one will remember these by then. Maybe there ones more to come and there hoalding it back. Im trying to think of anyother p'd off Republican hat might tell all. Clark and O 'Neill are right. Woodward is left but moderate. So maybe one more. But of course these guys are all lieing. They got togeather and said lets get Bush. Such BS.
And as for Iraq what it take three weeks to capture that mess. Now we own it and wish the hell someone whould buy it fast.

 

[Marco]

yyz posted most of my opinion on this thing........same old system, just bring someone else into it 4 or 8 years from when they start.....

Glad this only comes around every 4 years......less time for me to be cynical about thier "promises" to the American public.....

I don't vote and I'm not planning on starting up anytime soon...

Too much scandal. cover-ups, graft, bribery,conspiracies, and all the other bullshit for me to get serious about politics...if it's one thing I'd like to know before I die it would be the absolute truth about the JFK assassination.....I think Johnson had a lot to do with it but he had some help, and had to have some help from any one of about a half dozen groups that would have benefitted JFK's demise......

 

[StevieD]

m.

I also hear that Woodward has much to say about Bush's reliance on Vice President Cheney and other senior advisors. The crime here seems to be that George Bush surrounded himself with bright, intelligent and capable people; people whose advice he actually considered and followed. I guess Bush should have known that he was supposed to surround himself with pathetic yes-men with no compelling ideas of independent thought processes.

Ditto

Thanks for laugh Turfgrass. The problem is that Bush surrounded himself with the nitwits like Cheney and Rummy. Guys who have been screwing up the mideast for years!

 

[THE KOD]

which brings me to point that we were attacked before invasion of Afgan and Iraq without provoking the terrorist 1st. So don't be naive and think further attacks would be solely in retaliation for our actions in mideast. However that is what they would have you to believe and as always there will be those that do.

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DTB

I read somewhere what started the 911 attack was when Clinton sent the missles into Bin Ladens terrorist camp. That was Bin Ladens white house and he vowed to hit us back in our capitol.

I thought it was funny this morning when the Palesinians said they had replaced Rustini that was just killed by a Israel missle but they were not going to name him.

Seems like a good idea there.

KOD

 

[DOGS THAT BARK]

Scott Their main bitch is against western civilizationand all it stands for. Maybe the best way to fight these people instead of war is to isolate them in the middle east. If all countries would not allow them to enter they could live in the conditions Allah has so graciously bestowed apon them Maybe then the good Muslims would handle these radicals on their own. It confuses the hell out me how they think their way is best yet migrate to U.S and Europe in record #'s.
---of course that would be too easy a solution and I can just hear the screams of racial profiling coming from the left.