bogus, Bogus, BOGUS

[whodey]

i hear ya bird... people believe what they want them to believe.. if they didn't have so much passion and love for the sport.. they would be able to see through the smoke and mirrors.. it sucks cause they took the thing we love the most and turned it against us lol high school football is still very fun.. at least here in southern ohio!

:toast:

 

[the addict]

So this thing is corrupt?

And noone has ever talked?

Ever?

With all the potential money a individual could make for being the first "insider" to admit of all the lies and scandal that goes on behind the scenes in regards to fixing games, and noone has ever talked?

I think its insane to watch people, who are able to make a decision, and choose to wager their money, and then claim they lost to lies and corruption, and not the newyork giants..

If this game is fixed, and you can say that withgy 100% certainty, then why in the hell would you wager your money on it....that is the craziest thing I have ever heard...

"Hey, that ride is set up to take your money, leave you broke, and always make sure you lose....and I cannot wait to get on!!!!"


I dunno, just seems silly to me but I understand how ya feel....after tough losses I constantly think that I got cheated....then I realize that this billion dollar organization would be risking everything...and I mean EVERYTHING if they were to get caught...

They are already the most profitable organization in the world...I mean where else can employees get $100 million contracts and be terrible at their job (flacco cough cough)....or be the lowest paid guy on your team, and make $300,000....

I don't know, I guess I just don't believe the NFl is that dumb or greedy....why risk it all to make sure its fans lose their money? That is money we can no longer spend on tickets, beer, jerseys, TV packages....

I do not know for sure if it is or isn't, but would never degrade a person just for beleiving a certain way...

 

[Skanoochies]

So this thing is corrupt?

And noone has ever talked?

Ever?

With all the potential money a individual could make for being the first "insider" to admit of all the lies and scandal that goes on behind the scenes in regards to fixing games, and noone has ever talked?

I think its insane to watch people, who are able to make a decision, and choose to wager their money, and then claim they lost to lies and corruption, and not the newyork giants..

If this game is fixed, and you can say that withgy 100% certainty, then why in the hell would you wager your money on it....that is the craziest thing I have ever heard...

"Hey, that ride is set up to take your money, leave you broke, and always make sure you lose....and I cannot wait to get on!!!!"


I dunno, just seems silly to me but I understand how ya feel....after tough losses I constantly think that I got cheated....then I realize that this billion dollar organization would be risking everything...and I mean EVERYTHING if they were to get caught...

They are already the most profitable organization in the world...I mean where else can employees get $100 million contracts and be terrible at their job (flacco cough cough)....or be the lowest paid guy on your team, and make $300,000....

I don't know, I guess I just don't believe the NFl is that dumb or greedy....why risk it all to make sure its fans lose their money? That is money we can no longer spend on tickets, beer, jerseys, TV packages....

I do not know for sure if it is or isn't, but would never degrade a person just for beleiving a certain way...

Finally, a sensible post.:0074

 

[whodey]

Finally, a sensible post.:0074

why is it so hard to believe that an organization that has been ruled "a form of entertainment" that has zero oversight from the federal government and is one of two "sports" that possess an anti-trust exemption so they can do what ever they see fit without any consequences because all they technically have to provide for the fans is a match between two teams for your entertainment, the other model being the WWE.. i hope you all enjoy their "production of the national football league"

and no I haven't lost my ass gambling, I have done decent over the years, don't mess with it too much other than contests anymore as I feel they have gotten much more bold with throwing it right in our faces just like our government does with the way they consistently bend over the public time and time again and make it so painfully obvious that they are being super deceitful and not looking out for the best interest of the nation. but people stay willfully ignorant and choose to be misled rather easily on the day to day basis on just about anything in life, with this being no exception.

In the end, it's 32 super rich white guys protecting their money and looking to make more :0074

 

[Scrapman]

every year i read posts like these about fixes in NFL and guess who cries fixes? YEAH the ones who lost.

I know for a fact that no way can any NFL game be fixed by outside money or odds makers i know people who worked in Vegas and lived there. Friend of mines named Bill was a crap dealer for years then pit boss he had to take bets from large hitters to the window and place them for them so they didnt have to leave his game. Was not allowed to accept tips ever if caught accepting tips BAM would be hauled in office instantly. All though the college sports are really fixed 35% of them can be by the kids booking games on campus by players themselves or by outside cash all people are very easy to get too refs head coaches etc... Hey an Extra $1000 or two in your pocket to toss an int or fumble make other team score and back door you when they have $20,000 plus on the other side thats - 17 1/2 winning by 24 points. Yaeh you know it's coming don't you all of a sudden they go sit back in defense let dog run clock and score they win by double digits still look good but you lose $

 

[whodey]

yea im just a sore loser lol im done here, not trying to argue with anyone on it, I have done given up on our population when it comes to anything that involves critical thinking and the willingness to have an open mind that there's a possibility you are being tricked and deceived on all fronts.. so I'm just a crazy conspiracy guy that loses all my money and cries FIX to make myself feel better... good luck all :toast:

 

[whodey]

every year i read posts like these about fixes in NFL and guess who cries fixes? YEAH the ones who lost.

I know for a fact that no way can any NFL game be fixed by outside money or odds makers i know people who worked in Vegas and lived there. Friend of mines named Bill was a crap dealer for years then pit boss he had to take bets from large hitters to the window and place them for them so they didnt have to leave his game. Was not allowed to accept tips ever if caught accepting tips BAM would be hauled in office instantly. All though the college sports are really fixed 35% of them can be by the kids booking games on campus by players themselves or by outside cash all people are very easy to get too refs head coaches etc... Hey an Extra $1000 or two in your pocket to toss an int or fumble make other team score and back door you when they have $20,000 plus on the other side thats - 17 1/2 winning by 24 points. Yaeh you know it's coming don't you all of a sudden they go sit back in defense let dog run clock and score they win by double digits still look good but you lose $

who said outside money anyhow?? you drop that 100% system play yet btw?

 

[ocballer]

I witnessed a game a few years ago involving the buccaneers. I wish I could pull up the video. Bucs did not need to score anymore points but they threw a pass across the middle and the reciever ran for like. 60 yard touchdown, even though his own teammate was holding him back. Then tackled him in the end zone and started yelling at him. My brother and I were in shock. Ever since then I knew players fix the game. Not all the time but it does Happen.

 

[the addict]

I witnessed a game a few years ago involving the buccaneers. I wish I could pull up the video. Bucs did not need to score anymore points but they threw a pass across the middle and the reciever ran for like. 60 yard touchdown, even though his own teammate was holding him back. Then tackled him in the end zone and started yelling at him. My brother and I were in shock. Ever since then I knew players fix the game. Not all the time but it does Happen.

Perhaps they were trying to get him to go down so they could run the clock out??? Teams will throw and try and convert one more first down if it means the game will be over.....even up 30....avoid anymore chance of injury...MJD, brian westbrook, tim brown....I can remember all guys doin it....falling down at the 1 instead of scoring......maybe the teamates were veterans trying to get a young player to realize that....

I just have a hard time beleiving that if a NFL player did infact risk everything.....the fame, the money, the lifestyle, that he would make it so obvious as to try and tackle his own teammate......id like to see the clip tho for sure to see what it looked like

 

[poolplayer8888]

NATIONAL FIXED LEAGUE !!!! what a fawking joke. a mutha fukn joke.

LOL...once again someone brings up the FIX...I won't even get myself started on this cus it's so far fetced..Fixed?? WOW

 

[poolplayer8888]

Yes it's ALWAYS someone who LOST.....

 

[Limo]

the nfl games are not fixed---BUT------BUT they are controlled---and I will tell you how---first they find a game where the bettors are mostly going one way---either favorite or dog---not in the point line but who is favorite in the betting----where all the money is ---or even 80%of the bets are going one way--IT COULD BE THE POINT LINE DOG GETTING ALL THE MONEY--THAT MAKES THAT TEAM THE FAVORITE---the favorite is the betting favorite not the line favorite---then they do not use the players to control the game or the refs---wanna know how----??? they swap the PLAY BOOKS---the management swaps the play books---so they know what plays will be called--the owners---and their staffs (those who have the most to gain) swap the play books-----no players are involved---no refs---just the coaches---who work for the nfl owners---they tell the opposing teams what plays will be called ---where and when--THATS HOW---!!!! ITS ALL IN THE HANDS OF MANAGEMENT---

 

[whodey]

the nfl games are not fixed---BUT------BUT they are controlled---and I will tell you how---first they find a game where the bettors are mostly going one way---either favorite or dog---not in the point line but who is favorite in the betting----where all the money is ---or even 80%of the bets are going one way--IT COULD BE THE POINT LINE DOG GETTING ALL THE MONEY--THAT MAKES THAT TEAM THE FAVORITE---the favorite is the betting favorite not the line favorite---then they do not use the players to control the game or the refs---wanna know how----??? they swap the PLAY BOOKS---the management swaps the play books---so they know what plays will be called--the owners---and their staffs (those who have the most to gain) swap the play books-----no players are involved---no refs---just the coaches---who work for the nfl owners---they tell the opposing teams what plays will be called ---where and when--THATS HOW---!!!! ITS ALL IN THE HANDS OF MANAGEMENT---

:0074

 

[the addict]

the nfl games are not fixed---BUT------BUT they are controlled---and I will tell you how---first they find a game where the bettors are mostly going one way---either favorite or dog---not in the point line but who is favorite in the betting----where all the money is ---or even 80%of the bets are going one way--IT COULD BE THE POINT LINE DOG GETTING ALL THE MONEY--THAT MAKES THAT TEAM THE FAVORITE---the favorite is the betting favorite not the line favorite---then they do not use the players to control the game or the refs---wanna know how----??? they swap the PLAY BOOKS---the management swaps the play books---so they know what plays will be called--the owners---and their staffs (those who have the most to gain) swap the play books-----no players are involved---no refs---just the coaches---who work for the nfl owners---they tell the opposing teams what plays will be called ---where and when--THATS HOW---!!!! ITS ALL IN THE HANDS OF MANAGEMENT---

And a coach has never talked? Ever? Nah. Don't buy it.

Someone would've cashed in on the oppurtunity to be the one to break the story....

And these coaches are way to devoted to do that IMO

But everyone has their own opinion....and you may be right. I just don't think the same way.

 

[smurphy]

Super Bowl III in 1969 was fixed. But Monday night's incompetence festival was not. In fact, there is zero motive for any NFL game to ever be fixed at this point. Without motive, there isn't a crime.

 

[LA Burns]

And a coach has never talked? Ever? Nah. Don't buy it.

Someone would've cashed in on the oppurtunity to be the one to break the story....

And these coaches are way to devoted to do that IMO

But everyone has their own opinion....and you may be right. I just don't think the same way.

so addict, you don't think there has ever been any funny business in this regard in the NFL? I understand that it is silly to scream "fix" every time there is a questionable call or a weird set of circumstances involving the refs, but I also think it is silly to think that game fixing has never occurred in the NFL

 

[LA Burns]

be it players, refs, whoever - I think that "fixes" have happened in every sport and continue to happen in every sport

I don't think it's weekly or monthly or even every year, but again I definitely think it is na?ve to believe that game fixing doesn't exist

 

[Hashish]

Some of y'all really crack me up. :mj07:

 

[whodey]

be it players, refs, whoever - I think that "fixes" have happened in every sport and continue to happen in every sport

I don't think it's weekly or monthly or even every year, but again I definitely think it is na?ve to believe that game fixing doesn't exist

exactly... it happens... not every game... it's still fun to watch football cause the players are playing 110% and that is real, but i have come to realize rather quickly, and it is only becoming more evident, that there are certainly "trap" games that I feel that people always try to rationalize the situation as best as possible... and sometimes true, but there are just too many situations that I find that are odd that seem to go against the public... and I know you have your cocky know it alls saying that it's only LOSERS that claim this... which is fine, everyone is entitled to their opinion, but I think someone is looking at things with rose colored glasses :shrug:


you guys are taking it too far... as if to think that everyone is involved... or every coach is involved... or every ref... its few.. who knows.. but it's there.. there are things that happen that if you go back and watch every single game in the history.. follow the money trail on each.. you will see that several times, "things" just happen to work out on a lot of lopsided games with the public straight getting their dome split


opcorn2

 

[the addict]

so addict, you don't think there has ever been any funny business in this regard in the NFL? I understand that it is silly to scream "fix" every time there is a questionable call or a weird set of circumstances involving the refs, but I also think it is silly to think that game fixing has never occurred in the NFL

I'm not saying it has never happened. I just don't think it has at the level so many say.

The entire league (commish/owners/coaches) all working together with vegas to find ways to stick it to its fans.....nope.

Do I think maybe a single coach or a few players individually have tried to win some extra coin along the way by changing the outcomes of games???? Maybe....

However, I 100% feel there is no conspiracy which the entire league is involved in in which it works alongside vegas and casinos to make extra money.....not a chance...