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I look at books, public consensus on wagers. Dallas was a huge public money fav today... and i assure you the books covered all losses on pitt, with that green Bay cover and win....
Don't waste your time . Can't win an argument with people who have bad info to start with .
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http://www.espn.com/chalk/story/_/id/18487333/william-hill-says-sunday-was-worst-day-ever
looks like books lost yesterday as well
looks like books lost yesterday as well
I said it was brutal and has been,but the guys on here think whatever sites they're looking at is giving them accurate info.Nothing to gain coming on here and criticizing others just sharing info.Just because one takes a side and wants others to believe they weren't the public.Nothing wrong with being the public of late it's been a cash cow.
Almost looked like books were gonna win Sunday with Falcons and under,but of course like the rest of the season public cashes again. Good riddance to a horrible season........Las Vegas sports books showed a profit with the Patriots (-3) incredible 34-28 overtime win over the Falcons in Sunday's Super Bowl, but the public once again held their own to close out their epic NFL regular and postseason where they routinely beat the house like never seen before.
The sports books win was multi-layered with the bulk of the positive revenues coming from Super Bowl futures being posted and parlay cards. While the action on the game itself was well balanced with action on both sides thanks to furious Falcons action on Sunday, the public got the better of the books with in-progress wagering as the Patriots erased a 25-point deficit.
"We're a winner today, but it could have been a huge day if Atlanta held on and kept the game Under the total (57),' said Westgate SuperBook VP Jay Kornegay. "Bettors did well on their second-half bets with the Patriots (-6) and Over (30.5) and they kept betting them a lot with in-progress wagering. At the point when the Falcons were up 28-3, the odds of the Patriots winning straight up was 12-to-1."
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When the score was 28-9 in the fourth-quarter, William Hill books were offering 16/1 odds (Bet $100 to win $1,600) with its in-progress wagering and bettors jumped on it making it one of their biggest losers on the day. They also got beat up on the all-way teaser hitting with both sides and totals.
"It was a peanut win on the day," said William Hill's head bookmaker Nick Bogdanovich.
"We made a few bucks, luckily." said Wynn Las Vegas sports book director John Avello. "It would have better for us if Atlanta wins in overtime. We took a bunch of Under money Sunday and that was basically our win to the game. We were a loser on the side with almost half-a-million high on the Patriots (spread). But the Atlanta money-line plays saved us along with the total. We made a few bucks on the props, but nothing big."
None of the sports books wanted to be on -3, but they stuck with it for two weeks and it proved to be the correct number, but there were some worried about the most key number in the NFL landing as the Patriots were making their comeback.
"The bonus for us is that the game didn't land 3, not financially, but from a standpoint of paying out tickets non-stop for the next week. I started thinking about the possibility of 3 landing and all its effects when it was 28-20," Kornegay said. "It was an odd game to book because it was so balanced. It was weird because the public and sharps were so split on the game, but then Atlanta support came hard on Sunday."
The Super Bowl props are normally a source for steady income, but this year things were a different which is only appropriate considering how the entire NFL season has gone for the books.
"We got hurt on several of the props," said Station Casinos sports book director Jason McCormick, "overtime, defensive TD, passing yards, two-point conversion, three players recording a pass and missed extra-point. We also got hurt on the in-game money-line. Futures and the parlay card were solid and we ended up being a small winner on the game itself."
There was one prop that every book was unified in losing to.
"Overtime was the worst prop for us, but it was certainly due," Kornegay said. "This is my 31st Super Bowl in Nevada and its the first time we lost to the prop."
It was the first overtime in Super Bowl history and paid out up to 7/1 odds.
No word until Monday on overall Super Bowl handle when the Nevada Gaming Commission releases amounts from all over the state, but all indications suggest handle might be larger than last years record of $132 million wagered.
"Our handle was way over last year," said Wynn sports book director John Avello. "I'll go ahead and say it's going to be record handle for the state."
Station Casinos and MGM Resorts both reported an increase in handle of about 10 percent over last season. Part of the increases could be due to the frenzied wagering during the Patriots comeback with in-progress wagering and the other part is because it was so equally split with opinions on a game with a short spread.
The overall atmosphere at the books was reported to be as intense as bookmakers have ever seen with such a dramatic start and finish by both teams.
"It was one of the most exciting scenes I've ever seen in a book," said Boyd gaming sports book director Bob Scucci. "More people were rooting for the Patriots and as they were coming back, it got louder and louder with each score."
The sports books win was multi-layered with the bulk of the positive revenues coming from Super Bowl futures being posted and parlay cards. While the action on the game itself was well balanced with action on both sides thanks to furious Falcons action on Sunday, the public got the better of the books with in-progress wagering as the Patriots erased a 25-point deficit.
"We're a winner today, but it could have been a huge day if Atlanta held on and kept the game Under the total (57),' said Westgate SuperBook VP Jay Kornegay. "Bettors did well on their second-half bets with the Patriots (-6) and Over (30.5) and they kept betting them a lot with in-progress wagering. At the point when the Falcons were up 28-3, the odds of the Patriots winning straight up was 12-to-1."
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When the score was 28-9 in the fourth-quarter, William Hill books were offering 16/1 odds (Bet $100 to win $1,600) with its in-progress wagering and bettors jumped on it making it one of their biggest losers on the day. They also got beat up on the all-way teaser hitting with both sides and totals.
"It was a peanut win on the day," said William Hill's head bookmaker Nick Bogdanovich.
"We made a few bucks, luckily." said Wynn Las Vegas sports book director John Avello. "It would have better for us if Atlanta wins in overtime. We took a bunch of Under money Sunday and that was basically our win to the game. We were a loser on the side with almost half-a-million high on the Patriots (spread). But the Atlanta money-line plays saved us along with the total. We made a few bucks on the props, but nothing big."
None of the sports books wanted to be on -3, but they stuck with it for two weeks and it proved to be the correct number, but there were some worried about the most key number in the NFL landing as the Patriots were making their comeback.
"The bonus for us is that the game didn't land 3, not financially, but from a standpoint of paying out tickets non-stop for the next week. I started thinking about the possibility of 3 landing and all its effects when it was 28-20," Kornegay said. "It was an odd game to book because it was so balanced. It was weird because the public and sharps were so split on the game, but then Atlanta support came hard on Sunday."
The Super Bowl props are normally a source for steady income, but this year things were a different which is only appropriate considering how the entire NFL season has gone for the books.
"We got hurt on several of the props," said Station Casinos sports book director Jason McCormick, "overtime, defensive TD, passing yards, two-point conversion, three players recording a pass and missed extra-point. We also got hurt on the in-game money-line. Futures and the parlay card were solid and we ended up being a small winner on the game itself."
There was one prop that every book was unified in losing to.
"Overtime was the worst prop for us, but it was certainly due," Kornegay said. "This is my 31st Super Bowl in Nevada and its the first time we lost to the prop."
It was the first overtime in Super Bowl history and paid out up to 7/1 odds.
No word until Monday on overall Super Bowl handle when the Nevada Gaming Commission releases amounts from all over the state, but all indications suggest handle might be larger than last years record of $132 million wagered.
"Our handle was way over last year," said Wynn sports book director John Avello. "I'll go ahead and say it's going to be record handle for the state."
Station Casinos and MGM Resorts both reported an increase in handle of about 10 percent over last season. Part of the increases could be due to the frenzied wagering during the Patriots comeback with in-progress wagering and the other part is because it was so equally split with opinions on a game with a short spread.
The overall atmosphere at the books was reported to be as intense as bookmakers have ever seen with such a dramatic start and finish by both teams.
"It was one of the most exciting scenes I've ever seen in a book," said Boyd gaming sports book director Bob Scucci. "More people were rooting for the Patriots and as they were coming back, it got louder and louder with each score."
CINCY KID that report on Vegas books was dead solid perfect
locals here where i live that i know told me true they got buried with Patriots n overs
few took falcons but they had like 62% patriots most locals here hold 50 players
one bad year for bookies if it continues next year they may close shop
which i pray that then legal sports bets come through
would turn this country into profits and wipe out the national debt in 5 years
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locals here where i live that i know told me true they got buried with Patriots n overs
few took falcons but they had like 62% patriots most locals here hold 50 players
one bad year for bookies if it continues next year they may close shop
which i pray that then legal sports bets come through
would turn this country into profits and wipe out the national debt in 5 years
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