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...and who or what got in your head? i told you he was a man-child.... :eek:





...you held up part of the bankroll the first half of the bowl games...and i appreciate it (believe me, i appreciate it...), but then you turncoat on me? ...you should be ashamed, my northern friend.... :D


...just givin' ya a hard time, anthony. you've had one hell of a cfb season, a nice bowl run and we can't forget...mr. thursday night. i hope that i've helped you out as much as you've helped me, buddy. ;)


...for the bowl games next year...remember the proverb...take doggies until the end of the year...and the favs to begin the new one.... :SIB


edit: ...djv. :hail



I am ashamed of myself for going against my instincts and your reasoning...

Thank you for the kind words my friend, glad I was able to help you make some$ just as you have helped me make some $
( OHIO play before you left for Mexico:brows: and many other plays as well)

The 2002 season and the bowl games have been very kind to me and without the help of many on here it wouldn't be possible... so thank you to all of you who made it possible!!!


Hopefully OSU pulls it out with a cover and a win would be a bonus though I can't see it...

BUT WHAT DO I KNOW???


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P.S. How was class Chad?

Say hi to the wife my southern friend...
 

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TEMPE, ARIZONA (TICKER) -- Larry Coker knows a thing or two about streaks.

Coker has not lost in 24 games as a head coach, a streak that will be tested when top-ranked Miami meets No. 2 Ohio State in the Fiesta Bowl on January 3.

The Hurricanes have won 34 straight games, the longest in college football since Toledo won 35 in a row from 1969 to 1971. A win at Sun Devil Stadium inevitably will bring up talk of whether Miami can make a run at one of the great streaks in sports history - Oklahoma's record 47-game winning streak from 1953 to 1957.

Coker grew up in the Sooner State at the time Bud Wilkinson was putting together a string of success often compared to Joe DiMaggio's 56-game hitting streak.

"Bud Wilkinson was one of my idols growing up," Coker said. "But playing one more game for the national championship is more important right now."

Miami still has a long way to go to catch the Sooners, but Coker knows that his team is starting to feel the pressure that a long streak brings. Miami (12-0) plays every game with a bulls' eye on its back, and it is difficult to always maintain a level of high intensity and focus.

"We get a little frustrated when things don't work out the way we want them to work out and we go into a shell a little bit," Coker admits.

Coker will have his team focused for the Fiesta Bowl, which brings its own share of historic hurdles that need to be cleared.

The Hurricanes can become the first team to win back-to-back national championships since Nebraska in 1994 and 1995. Miami arguably has been the best program in college football over the last two decades, winning five national titles, but this can be the first Hurricane team to win two in a row.

Standing in the way is Ohio State (13-0), a school looking to make its own claim to history. The storied program known for Woody Hayes and Archie Griffin has not won a national championship since 1968.

Jim Tressel, like Coker in his second year at his current job, will assure himself of a prized place in Buckeye lore with a win in Tempe. Ohio State also won national championships in 1942, 1954 and 1957.

The oft-maligned Bowl Championship Series did its job this season, pairing the only two undefeated teams in Division I-A. But the Hurricanes have been installed as a double-digit favorite, and the question is whether they can be stopped when they are clicking on all cylinders.

Miami has rolled up 105 points and 1,121 points in its last two games, including a 56-45 triumph over Virginia Tech that put the Hurricanes in Tempe. Ohio State, by contrast, has scored less than 20 points in four of its last six games.

The Hurricanes have yet to score less than 26 points in a game and feature the duo of Heisman Trophy finalists Willis McGahee and Ken Dorsey. McGahee, a sophomore, ran for 1,686 yards and 27 touchdowns. Dorsey came under criticism for not putting up huge numbers, but still threw for 3,073 yards and 26 TDs and improved to 38-1 as a starter.

The key to the Fiesta Bowl could come down to Ohio State's ability to not necessarily stop, but at least slow down, the Hurricanes. Ohio State has allowed just 12.2 points per game and close November wins over Purdue, Illinois and Michigan all came down to big plays on defense.

The heart of the defense is linebacker Matt Wilhelm, who had 111 tackles and 16 1/2 for losses, and defensive backs Chris Gamble and Michael Doss. Gamble has started the last five games at flanker and cornerback.

Ohio State knows it must move the ball to win. The Buckeyes had trouble doing that late in the year, but they often were without Maurice Clarett, who set a Buckeye record for rushing yards by a freshman with 1,190. Ohio State is a vastly better team with the oft-injured Clarett in the lineup, and it showed in the 14-9 win over Michigan in which he ran for 119 yards.

A healthy Clarett takes some of the pressure off underrated quarterback Craig Krenzel, who threw for 1,988 yards and 12 touchdowns this season. Split end Michael Jenkins is a big-play receiver who caught 57 passes for 1,031 yards and six scores.

"We respect Miami and we know they're a great team, but there's not a guy on this team who doesn't think we can't compete, who doesn't think we can't go out and win," Krenzel said.

Miami has allowed a relatively mediocre 18 points per game this season and the unit has sometimes been soft against the run. West Virginia rushed for 363 yards, including 175 by Avon Cobourne, and Greg Jones ran wild for 189 of Florida State's 296 in the Seminoles' one-point loss.

Both coaches have connections to their opponent. Coker was an assistant at Ohio State under John Cooper in 1993 and 1994. Tressel, then at Youngstown State, interviewed for the Miami job when Butch Davis left in 1995, a job that ultimately went to Coker.

Ohio State and Miami have met just twice previously. Ohio State won a 10-0 contest in 1977 and Miami was a 23-12 winner in the 1999 Kickoff Classic.

Ohio State last played in the Fiesta Bowl following the 1983 season when it lost to Pittsburgh, 28-23.

Miami has lost all three of its trips to the Fiesta Bowl, most recently a 29-0 setback to Arizona following the 1993 campaign. The most notable of the visits was a 14-10 loss to Penn State on January 2, 1987 with the national title at stake.
 

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Here is what I think the game plans will be for both teams:

OSU
stop the run... get pressure by mixing in blitzes and zone blitzes at time... force teams to rely on short passes and make the tackle...

they don't give up the big play... the team is built around that

offensively... run it up the gut... take advantage of a team that is built on speed and has shown to be very vulnerable to the run... and hasn't faced a running game like OSU's yet!

the thing is that the way ANY team would want to beat Miami plays right into Ohio State's normal game plan

so I don't think it is any mystery

that isn't bragging or saying that means OSU will win...

game plans are only a start... how the guys perform tells the rest of the story

so my point isn't to say OSU wins!

but that the OSU gameplan is obvious... and makes sense


Miami?

simply put they want to make it into a track meet and a high scoring game

but I don't think their coaches are cocky enough to think they can simply do that

I think they will "take what is given them"... try early to establish the backs on screens (more so than running) and throwing short, quick passes... then try to punch it in with their athletes in one-on-one situation (big reciever and TE)

defensily? put 9 men in the box and force OSU to throw...

I think both game plans are obvious
 

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As they say in Arizona, the Fiesta Bowl is for all of the corn chips as Ohio State, ranked #2 in the final BCS poll and undefeated, takes on the undefeated defending National Champs from Miami. Looking at film, it is clear that Ohio State made it to this game because of their great defense. Looking at Miami?s tape indicates that they made it this far due to their high octane offense. Two of Miami?s offensive stars were Heisman finalists. But if you look beyond that you will see Ohio State?s talented offensive players like stud running back Maurice Clarett, quarterback Craig Krenzel, and wide receiver Michael Jenkins. Miami boasts a very good defense as well anchored by defensive tackle Vince Wilfork.

The story of week in Tempe is the Maurice Clarett soap opera. Don?t be fooled by what most members of the media are writing. Clarett is not upset with anyone associated with the football team, but only the Ohio State compliance officer. As one reporter this week asked him about playing for a school he disrespects, Maurice replied ?That?s a stupid question.? Of course, that doesn?t get printed because the media wants to focus on the controversy. The football team is completely focused on the game and will come out ready to prove to their critics that they are the best team in the country. Clarett is probably the only one distracted by all of this because he can?t stop hearing about it from fans and the media. But as soon as the first kickoff is complete and Maurice straps on his helmet, he?ll forget all about that and be prepared to play the #1 team in the country. If he?s not, Ohio State got here by playing half of their games without Clarett anyway, so it won?t be anything new to them if Maurice is on the sidelines.

With Miami being the heavy favorite in this game, some might be led to believe that they are overconfident and might be shocked by the talent wearing the scarlet and grey. That doesn?t appear to be the case, according to Brett Romberg, Miami?s center. ?It's going to be as hard a game as we've had this year, probably the hardest we've ever played,? Romberg explains. ?We could easily get knocked off. People are downplaying the whole deal of Ohio State not rising to the occasion, but we know (better), we watch film.?

Miami?s big threats are Heisman finalists Ken Dorsey and Willis McGahee. Dorsey passed for over 3,000 yards while McGahee rushed for nearly 1,700. Dorsey?s favorite receiver is big play threat Andre Johnson. These three players are the reason for Miami being undefeated for the past two seasons. Ohio State defensive end Darrion Scott said ?They're a great team and have great weapons. We also have a great defense.? He couldn?t be more accurate. Ohio State finished the season tied with Purdue for the best total defense. The star of their team is two way player Chris Gamble. Gamble seems to show up out of nowhere at all the key times in big games. Whether Ohio State needed a big catch or an interception to seal a victory, Gamble was there to put it away. In this writer?s opinion, Gamble will be the best player on the field tonight, even better than Clarett, Dorsey, and McGahee. There are not many, if any players in America who have meant as much for their team or made as many big plays as Gamble. Both quarterbacks are going to have to keep their eye on him. Dorsey will want to keep the ball away from him and Krenzel will want to get the ball in his hands, especially if star WR Michael Jenkins isn?t open. And since I haven?t mentioned him yet, I better bring up the name Mike Doss. He is the best safety in the country and is easily a first round draft pick. He came back for his senior year for one reason: to win a National Championship.

Miami is going to use a very balanced attack against Ohio State, but may learn to take to the air early. Ohio State has a very stout rushing defense while their passing defense is more susceptible, even with the talented Gamble roaming. Ohio State gives up an amazing 78 yards per game rushing, but ranks 88th in the country in pass efficiency defense. Dorsey to Johnson may be the best chance for Miami to win the game, but expect Ohio State to have Gamble on Johnson?s side of the field. When Ohio State is offense, they will go to Maurice Clarett and Lydell Ross a lot. Krenzel is an accurate passer, but his passing abilities are used mostly as a compliment to these fine running backs. Clarett is strong, quick, and elusive. He looks to be the best running back in the country within the next year or two. Ross is a highly talented backup who got a lot of playing time with Clarett sidelined for much of the season with a shoulder injury. If Miami stacks the line, Krenzel will use Michael Jenkins to eat apart the Miami secondary. Jenkins is also a big play threat, as most people have seen the clip of him catching the amazing fourth down, fourth quarter touchdown pass to beat Purdue.

While Miami is the heavy favorite and people tend to criticize Ohio State for their close games, Miami was also involved in some close games to inferior teams. They barely beat Florida State and Pittsburgh and were on the verge of an upset by lowly Rutgers before Miami exploded in the fourth quarter. West Virginia rushed for 363 yards on Miami. Florida State gained 298 yards on the ground against the Hurricanes. Teams have proven this year that a good rushing game can work well against the Hurricanes. Ohio State is not a good rushing team, they are a great rushing team. In a game that will be closer than expected, Ohio State pulls the mild upset in a 3 point victory to claim the National Championship. Mike Doss finishes a journey that started a year ago when he decided to rejoin the Buckeyes for his senior campaign. As time expires, he?ll be singing that famous tune: ?In old Ohio there's a team that's known throughout the land. Eleven warriors, brave and bold, whose fame will ever stand.?

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anthony youve done great w/ the bowl games... me i took the rest of the college year off..
i only wish i was here to save you from betting against my sooners!!

keep up the great work my brotha!:)
 

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Hope all is well Danny... dreaming can be healthy you know...

you know the saying...
" DREAMS CAN COME TRUE"


but trust me, I just want OSU to cover, a win would be a bonus though... either way i just want a great game!!!!

But trust me, if Miami wins I will be the first one on here to congratulate the Hurricanes!

:)

NOW LETS GET IT ON!!!

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Miami should beat Ohio State Friday night in the Fiesta Bowl for the national championship. Not because Ohio State isn't good. And not because Maurice Clarett is torn between getting juiced to play against the Hurricanes or against Buckeyes athletic director Andy Geiger. In fact, Ohio State is a talented, resourceful team. But Miami is better. Not tons better, but better. And the 'Canes have been here before. Most-likely scenario: An even game is decided by a couple of big plays -- Ken Dorsey to Andre Johnson for one, Willis McGahee to the house for another. Or maybe a turnover from the Miami defense. Something like that.

And when it's finished, Miami will be in possession of a 35-game winning streak. (Even if the Hurricanes lose, they still ran off 34 in a row, to which you can apply almost all of the praise that follows.) The streak is staggering, arguably the most impressive run in the history of college football (keep reading).



As a sports culture, we are inured to numbers, simply because we see so many statistics every day. We hear about a streak and we think, Everything is a streak. Hitting, shooting, scoring, tackling. Too much arithmetic. As a result, a good, old-fashioned winning streak like Miami's is both overpublicized and sanitized at the same time.

Let's apply some reality. First, look at the five teams that have won 35 or more consecutive games:


Oklahoma. Bud Wilkinson's incredible Sooners won 47 straight, the NCAA record, from 1953-'57. This is one of the most storied dynasties in the history of college football (and the subject of a new book by The Junction Boys author Jim Dent), and deservedly so. But Wilkinson played by ancient recruiting rules that allowed him to stockpile dozens of players every year, maintaining Oklahoma's depth by preventing players from signing with other schools. Current NCAA rules that limit scholarships to 85 per school (which is plenty, by the way) and unregulated television coverage brings legitimacy to every program.


Washington. The Huskies won 39 in a row between 1908 and 1914. It's a terrific run, but it came in the dark ages of college football and averages out to less than six wins per season.


Yale. Two 37-game streaks, from 1887-89 and 1890-93. This is even further in the dark ages, when few colleges played football and the Ivies were king.


Toledo. Its 35-game streak from 1969-71 is genuine. But the Rockets played mid-major football, which is just not the same.

Miami's streak has unfolded as college football moves glacially toward a mild form of parity. Understand: College football will never be like the NFL, where the phrase "any given Sunday" is actually true. But scholarship limitations and television exposure have sprinkled playmakers through Division I-A. If a power program has an off week, it can lose. If it slips in a bigger way, like Nebraska this season, it can fall precipitously. Gone are the days when 9-2 was considered a bad year.

Now consider the Miami program itself. Sure, it's located at the epicenter of high school football talent; that's a huge advantage that Howard Schnellenberger first seized upon to win Miami's first national title in 1983. But the Hurricanes' streak was just 10 games old when Butch Davis bailed and went to the Cleveland Browns, leaving the program in the hands of untested Larry Coker. Miami has held together for Coker under major duress.

What's more, the streak has been full of close calls. In 2000 Dorsey brought the 'Canes from behind in the fourth quarter to beat No. 1 Florida State. Last year they sweated out a 26-24 win over Virginia Tech in Blacksburg. This season they needed Wide Right III to survive against Florida State, a big fourth quarter against Rutgers, and a barely missed end-zone connection on a Thursday night at Pittsburgh.

Great teams win close games. Dynasties win close games year after year.

It is remarkable to consider that if Miami beats Ohio State Friday night and wins out next season, it will break Oklahoma's record. That's a long way from happening, especially considering Dorsey's graduation. But the very fact that such things can be discussed measures the breadth of what Miami has done.
 

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OSU will run, run, run
They're gonna win. Go ahead and laugh; it's not like they haven't heard it before. Yep, they're boring, bland. They're about as painful to watch as a circumcision. And you know what else? They're gonna win. The Ohio State Buckeyes will beat the defending national champion Miami Hurricanes in the Fiesta Bowl national championship game. That's right -- they're going to take care of the big, bad Canes in a game that means everything. So what if the Buckeyes play like PBS on Prozac and their coach reminds you of Mr. Rogers?

It's going to be a wonderful day in the neighborhood.

"You'd have to be crazy to pick against us," says Miami tailback Willis McGahee.

Consider us certifiable.

There's something about this Ohio State team, just two years removed from the deteriorating days of malcontents and underachievers steering the storied program into mediocrity. These guys were struggling to put away Akron not so long ago. Now, under no-nonsense coach Jim Tressel, they're primed to snap Miami's 34-game winning streak and knock college football's kingpin sideways.

Tell us it's illogical or even insane. You won't be the first. One AFC scout says Miami's roster is loaded with NFL talent and that at least 35 to 40 current Hurricanes will get a long look in NFL training camps. "There's too much talent for them to lose," he says. Meanwhile, Ohio State quarterback Craig Krenzel, a molecular genetics major who one day probably will make enough money to own a skybox in an NFL stadium, details the Buckeyes' run to a 13-0 record and the title game this way:

"We play for each other," he says, matter of factly.

Go ahead and laugh; get it out of the way because we're going to tell you how the biggest game in the not-so-long history of the BCS will end in one of the biggest upsets in college football history:

Run the ball and stop the run. That's how Ohio State won its last national title in 1968 under legendary coach Woody Hayes, and the Buckeyes will do it the same way 34 years later.

They're gonna win.



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His shoulder is bandaged and bulky, encased with four separate wraps and braces for protection. It looks like a prop from a sci-fi movie. How is anyone supposed to play with this contraption hindering every movement? "It ain't easy," says Ohio State freshman tailback Maurice Clarett.

By the time the Fiesta Bowl kickoff rolls around on January 3, he may not need the protection but he'll have it on anyway. By then, it will be nearly six weeks since the Buckeyes last played -- six weeks to heal the most high-profile injury in the country and give the Buckeyes the edge they need on offense.

Midway through the season, Clarett sustained a burner, or pinched nerve, in his left shoulder. Neither he nor the Buckeyes' offense has been the same since. Because the injury requires extended rest to heal, the six-week layoff is something of a blessing. A healthy Clarett had 230 yards in a September 14 blowout of Washington State, which finished seventh nationally in run defense. Miami finished 73rd, allowing 167 yards per game. If the Hurricanes have a weakness, it is an inability to consistently stop the run.

"That's all we ever hear," says Miami defensive tackle Vince Wilfork. "I've seen (Clarett); he's just another guy. He's no better than any of the other backs we've faced."

Actually, he's much better. Had he stayed healthy, he would have been at last weekend's Heisman Trophy ceremony. Clarett has the strength and power of Earl Campbell and the balance and vision of Marcus Allen. He's the type of runner who can control games and dictate tempo -- much like Florida State's Greg Jones (189 rushing yards) or Pittsburgh's Brandon Miree (118) did against the Canes, whose vulnerabilities clearly were evident in those games.

"If you can control how often their offense gets on the field by holding onto (the ball) with your offense, you've got a much better chance of getting the game to the fourth quarter," says one rival Big East defensive coordinator. "If the game gets that late and you're still around, they're just like any other team. Pressure gets to everyone."

Miami's defensive line is quick and athletic, but it is best suited to rush the passer with quick, 262-pound tackle Matt Walters and speed-rush ends Jerome McDougle (260 pounds) and Jamaal Green (253). Both middle linebacker Jonathan Vilma (220) and strong safety Maurice Sikes (193) are undersized. The Canes' best combination at tackle is starter William Joseph (282) and Wilfork (335), but their size can be negated with zone-blocking techniques -- a strategy Pitt and FSU used with success.

Misdirection and draw plays also give Miami problems, slowing the pass rush and forcing the line to play assignments or chase. West Virginia used multiple misdirection looks, and tailback Avon Cobourne rushed for 175 yards.

"There's no secret, really," says another Big East defensive coordinator. "They run well in the front seven, and you've got to get them to overpursue. When that happens, they slow down and they're out of their scheme. Then you go right at them."

Ohio State's middle three of center Alex Stepanovich and guards Bryce Bishop and Adrien Clarke are strong, 300-plus pounders with good feet and an understanding that a block needs to be held only so long for Clarett to get by. Massive tackles Ivan Douglas (6-8, 305) and Shane Olivea (6-5, 310) are physical players with wide wingspans who can neutralize Miami's lack of size off the edge. Once the running game is established, Krenzel must get big, physical wideouts Chris Gamble (6-2, 180) and Michael Jenkins (6-5, 200) involved because both will be matchup problems for Miami's secondary.

Krenzel isn't flashy or dynamic, but he knows how to get the Buckeyes in the right play at the right time, and he doesn't make mistakes. Still, Krenzel's play hinges on OSU establishing the running game.

"It's an attitude as much as anything," Stepanovich says. "You have to take a stand every time the ball is snapped."
 

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Pete, Anthony......YOU SUCKERS!!!!!!!!!:D The Canes are gonna kill'em. :D LOL

Seriously, though, good luck to you guys. May the best team win. Can't believe we're down to the last game. This year has been fun. Already can't wait for next season.:)

GO BOILERS!......Wait, we already won.:D
 

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TTM$,
Well, it looks like one of us is going to win tonight.
I had to go with Miami. I called it early in the season and don't see any reason to back off now. I'm laying 11'. Maybe they win by 12 and we both win.

Good luck.:D
 

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Hey Danny.....BRING ON THAT TEAM SPEED
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May the best team in the country win! :D
 

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the next 2Q will be the most interesting football to be seen....

who will outwit who?
who will make the right calls?


ENJOY FRIENDS

No call on the 2nd H, just going to sit back and enjoy the game!!

GO BUCKS GO
 
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