bowling green/miami ohio play for tuesday night............

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grabbed this line from pinnacle for the tuesday nighter:

2 units.....bowling green (+7) (+100) over miami

for one game, i have no shame in siding with the squares. not at all surprised that miami is favored by a chunk of points, but am very surprised this line hit 7 (and bgsu is at a juice-free 7 at pinnacle no less). im not going to make this game more complicated than it is, nor am i going to try and out-think myself. miami is a very solid football team and capable of scoring a lot of points (total of 64 clearly reflects both teams scoring potential) but everything ive read from the bgsu side of things allows me to back the falcons and confident that theyve set the northern illinois game aside and are ready to take on a potent miami team.

quick overview of how these teams got to where they are, and where they excel:

miami.....roethlisberger is as good as they come, and has they ability to become every bit as good a pro quarterback as byron leftwich. clearly, this kid is a stud. in miami's lone national tv appearance this year against iowa, he was pretty brutal and people started jumping off his bandwagon after game 1. but he's settled in nicely this year and is leading the attack for the 7th best scoring offense in the nation (40.1 ppg). miami's attack is simple. let roethlisberger throw it around the field and mix in some handoffs to murray and smith to keep the defenses honest. the only thing worth noting is that miami has had a tendency to let teams hang around longer than they should at times. they let cincy in the backdoor a month ago, they basically took a "we'll trade you score for score" mentality with akron a few weeks ago, and then traded touchdowns with kent state last weekend. miami's offense is as good as they come. their defense is where they are a little vulnerable. the miami defensive scoring average is helped out with back-to-back games in which they allowed 3 points each game vs mac mutants buffalo and ball state, but by and large- their offense is vastly superior to the defense. when that offense is in rhythm, its impossible to stop. miami is a very very good team that could easily be in the top 25. in mac play so far this year, theyve outscored their opponents 233- 93. THATS WHERE I THINK A LOT OF THE LINE ORIGINATES FROM. miami has been ripping teams apart in conference play. only thing is, miami has had the luxury of an easier mac schedule to this point. although im very well aware that miami is every bit as good as their record. yeah their schedule has been easy, but theyre good regardless.

bowling green.....even though its easy to say "bgsu is the more public team since theyre ranked", the fact remains that miami still has more name recognition than bowling green and for the most part, america is more familiar with miami over the last few years than they are with bowling green. unfortunately, a lot of squares are jumping on the falcon bandwagon after their destruction of northern illinois a week and a half ago. oh well, i gotta live with it for one week. hellahs done a good job of introducing mac personnel and background to a lot of these teams. and then espn finished it off by giving the falcons their exposure vs niu. for those that live in a cave, however, falcons rely on the spread offense and run it very effectively. harris lines up in the shotgun almost every snap of the game (even on 4th goal from the 1, ive seen him not line up under center). falcons have good wide receivers. a couple guys that can stretch the field (sharon is solid) and (even though i hate to use this term, since it does him an injustice) theyve got an outstanding possession receiver in cole magner. falcons dont run a lot of deep routes. its not like theyre throwing the ball way down the field. what makes them so tough to stop is that harris rolls out both ways (left and right) very well and the receivers run a lot of short crosses and stop routes. they run the quick hitter to the tight end very well. its not a fun and gun offense so much as it is just a methodical passing attack that is tough to stop. as far as weaknesses, bowling green has had trouble when teams keep harris in check (not easy to do, but when they force bgsu to run the ball, they are a little more pedestrian). on the defensive side of the ball, bgsu is a little weak up front vs the run. they kept micheal turner in check for the most part but thats because - as i expected - they loaded the box and made haldi beat them. he couldnt do it. bgsu's strength is in their secondary, which has been solid this season. to me, you beat bowling green on the ground, not through the air.

as far as specific reasons why i like bowling green:

*line value.....i expected this line to be at miami (-3.5) or (miami -4). at the full touchdown, the falcons are too dangerous a team not to grab that number.

*as refenced above, you beat bgsu on the ground. thats where theyre weakest. dont get me wrong, roethlisberger will get his yards. hes too good not to. but bgsu's secondary is very athletic. if youre looking for a stud cornerback - keep an eye on janssen patton. 3 interceptions in the northern illinois game and 7 total on the year. you can be sure roethlisberger will be aware of where patton is on the field

*this is what put me over the edge on bgsu. the main thing i was worried about was them being flat and still be coming down from the northern illinois win. if this game was last saturday- theyd be in a spot for a letdown. but theyve had ten days to put this game behind them, and everything ive read has me convinced they wont allow a letdown (especially given the fact that miami is not an opponent you "let down" for anyways)

keep in mind, bowling green was in this exact spot last year (ranked late in the season and then stumbled). it appears that the poor november they had last year is still fresh in their minds and that they want to atone for that.

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BGSU Player Quotes
Quarterback Josh Harris
On coming down from the high of beating #12 NIU:
"This team is very focused and ready to go. This coaching staff, the seniors and leaders on this team won't allow a letdown."

On playing on a Tuesday night:
"I don't know if it effects you. You actually get to get a couple of extra days of preparation."

On not allowing a late-season letdown:
"This will be the first game in November and last year it was this time of year where we had a letdown."

BGSU Cornerback Janssen Patton
On remaining undefeated in the MAC:
"We had a great win on Saturday and with Ball State knocking off Toledo, we control our own destiny."

On the Falcons having a bull's-eye on their back:
"That means we're doing something good. I like it."

On maintaining winning ways late in the season:
"That's been our focus. It's not how you start, it's how you finish. Last year we were in the same position and we didn't finish the job."

On going against Ben Roethlisberger and Miami's passing attack:
"With a passing team we know the game can be won or lost in the secondary."
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* for as huge as this game is for miami, its also worth noting that theyve got marshall on deck next wednesday night at home on espn again. for those that remember, that is definitely a big revenger for miami given the way that game ended last season (with marshall winning in the last seconds on some suspect calls). so the "focus dynamic" involves both bgsu and miami, not just bowling green.

i guess im just convinced that bowling green really wants to atone for last years collapse when they were ranked and then had a bad november. theyre just too live a dog to not grab here.

so slap me with the "square stick" for one night. let me be joe public. im not going to "out-think" myself. yes the line is begging for bowling green money. lots of guys will look at the ranking and grab bgsu for their weekly 20 dollar bet for action. i guess im just confident that ive capped this conference long enough to feel like ive got the right side, even if it is a square side. if bowling green goes down by more than a touchdown, then that means i lose a couple hundred bucks knowing that harris and patton and the rest of the bgsu seniors allowed a november letdown to ruin their season two years in a row. i'll be lighter in the wallet, but it will hurt those guys more than it will me.

i honestly believe this game goes down to the final possession.

2 units......bowling green (+7) at even money
 

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Gman, Extremely well done!

I agree that BG + 7 represents some real value here. I think that there is zero chance of a letdown, and Harris is too much of a stud to let this one get out of hand.

You also get extra kudos for using a proper line(and source) that is accessible to all.

And a note to all of the 'cappers:

If you guys are really serious about having a MAC 'capping contest. I would suggest that all use the same line, documented from the same source. What's up with the buying points??? If you want bragging rights you need to play on a level field to prove anything to me.

Remember I got my 5 units on you Gman,
Good Luck
 

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spang - if your refering to me buying points...well all I can tell ya is I really could care less about the contest. Iam in it cuz I was called out. I bought the points cuz I wanna win money. If nobody likes it, then screw the contest. :shrug:
 

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also interesting to note:

both teams like to throw the early haymaker. miami has outscored its opponents 97-28 in the 1st quarter this year.
bowling green has outscored its opponents 76-34.

of note for bowling green:

in mac play, bowling green has scored a touchdown on the opening possession of all 4 mac games, and have done so in lightning fast times:

89 yards in 1:58
69 yards in 3:05
80 yards in 1:41
79 yards in 1:37

it seems like both miami and bgsu both script their first set of plays very well (a la mike shanahan)

bgsu to score first at +130 could be worth a look.
miami just as potent and likes to jump out early, but i honestly think whomever receives the opening kick will jump out to a 7-0 lead right away. both teams are explosive out of the gates
 

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SPANG

SPANG

A level playing field is only possible if everyone works equally hard!! The hardest workers get the best lines. You snooze you lose tactics!! Your comment seems to offend someone that goes far out of his way to help people he doesn't even know!!

Here's a quote that I live by from one of our home town guys "Hard Work and Success go together.............the Hard Work comes first" Bum Phillips

Keep it Positive, Topdog
 

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Geez guys I meant no harm, Actually, I like Hellah and all of the guys involved. I have had many discussions with hellah( on this site) during hoops seasons and have nothing but the deepest respect for his very diligent work ethic in researching the MAC conference.

I'm just saying that in a contest format that one line should be used by all contestants. This way it is a pure contest of handicapping, not line shopping.

Nothing more, nothing less.



I love you all!
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0-1 for the contest.

miami simply outplayed bowling green.
neither roethlisberger nor harris impacted the game in a big way.
miami clearly the better team tonight.
bgsu way too sloppy to even come close to beating a team the caliber of miami. very lame effort from bgsu.
falcons falter in novermber two years in a row now. they simply dont deserve the title right now.
not gonna sweat this loss too much. hate losing, but for bgsu to think they can come into oxford and commit 12 penalties and give it away four time- thats laughable. miami far far better tonight.

congrats miami bettors.

lets get em this weekend
 
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mjolinar:

your "ouch" serves no purpose.

never understood that condescending bump to a thread.

if you want to add constructive criticism, im more than open to it. but give me something better than that. that sh1t does nothing for me.

suns coming up tomorrow, and my bankroll isnt shot because i lost a couple units. it wont be the last time i lose a play - i can assure you that. the only thing i can guarantee you is that ill win more often than i lose.

peace
 

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worm 1-0
gman 0-1;) ;) ;) ;)

will you make it back to .500?;)

(take it easy just having some fun)
 

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Can someone please tell me why some guys can't wait to rub a loss in your face ? We are all here to win, help & learn from each other. I guess some people will never get it.:shrug: Keep up the good work gman & thank you for the write ups.
 

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vinnie:

as you know, i appreciate the stuff you post, plays or otherwise.

its the nature of the message boards. im used to it by now.
(as a matter of fact, check this guy najeff over at wagertrash tomorrow. he is one of my main bashers from back in the day. total burnout loser. he tried posting here and jack caught on to his act and banned him. now hes back at that trash hole going nuts when i lose and disappearing when i win. NOTHING surprises me anymore. i just laught at guys like that with no life but thats another story)

im here win or lose. no regrets on playing bgsu.

ive capped this conference for years. i knew very well miami was potent. simply felt bgsu was the right play tonight.

they werent. therefore, i shake it off and start my weekend a few hundred bucks down.

gl brother. youre one of the good guys around these parts
 
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hellah10

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whats the deal here???? Why are you guys rubbing this loss in gmans face? Totally uncalled for. Fawking childish shit man. He lost the game, big deal. He had legit reasons on why to BG - and he lost. Big whoops. Everybody loses games here. otherwise...there would be a weekly vent thread....

poor winners...:nooo:
 
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