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Hawaii +2.5 over Army ****** strong play
Army played terrible last week beating Eastern Mich with a final drive at the end.EMU was leading 31-27 before Army scored a winning TD to pull the game out. Hassan scored 3 td's but super soph QB Steelman played horrendous.He had 13 rushes for 14 yds before the last drive.He ended up with 15 carries and 35 yds.Fumbled the ball,caused another one on a poor handoff.Army had 7 penalties for 70 yds.Their kicking game,punting,kickoff coverage which was terrible last yr has not improved.Army defense couldn't stop huge holes the EMU OL created.Priest for EMU had 146 yds on the ground.EMU never passed the ball. They were 4-9 for 31 yds.Army gave up huge plays on defense. They only forced EMU to punt once in the entire game.Combs their starting LB is out and another LB is hurt'in.EMU was 0-12 last yr and aren't that good a team.
The Bows are coming off a big loss to USC.They have a open attack offense.They call it the " pistol-run-and shoot.Monitz their QB is athletic and can run and pass.Army has historically had problems with QB's like that. He was 18-36 for 269 yds and a td vs USC.He rushed for another 38 yds.
Bows have 2 backup qb's.Their offense vs USC gained 583 yds,459 in the air.Army will have a tough time trying to stop this spread offense.Salas in one of the best WR's in the conf.Bows have a huge OL they will pass protect Monitz.Army line is small and quick.Army's problem is the back 7.Their is little speed in this group.They haven't seen an air attack like this.To think EMU only threw the ball 9 times.On the 1st series of plays the Bows will throw it more then EMU.
Bows OL did a good job on the USC DL.The question is "can Bows defense stop the Army option.Army used 4 rbs and got their ground game going.Think they will move the ball and score vs Bows. But not enough to stay ahead.
Hawaii is traveling over 5,000 miles to play here in the Hudson Valley. But there should be no jet lag.Bows arrived tonite in NJ and will have 3 days to get acclimated to the time difference.Plus the weather is beautiful here now. Today it was in the low 70's.Army needs to get the Bows here in Nov with a windchill of -10.
Think the wrong team is favored.Cannot see Army defense staying with this high powered offense....will be back later in the week.Like North Texas over Rice and a few more...GL
Also Bows did beat Navy and its option attack last yr 24-17..
 

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best of luck always loof forward to your college posts and thanks for posting early...:00hour
 

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Already had a few peanuts on this from Tuesday but thinking about putting a couple cashews on it now that the Box gives it all those stars. GL bud
 

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Great write up as usual.

When scribbling down some stuff before the lines came out I thought we'd see the Rainbows as a 2-3 point fave.

Everybody saw them stand toe to toe with Usc and completely manhandle the Usc defense.

Army struggled mightily to squeak past E. Mich.

I guess my question is how is Army the fave here...kinda scares me a little.
 

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Great write up as usual.

When scribbling down some stuff before the lines came out I thought we'd see the Rainbows as a 2-3 point fave.

Everybody saw them stand toe to toe with Usc and completely manhandle the Usc defense.

Army struggled mightily to squeak past E. Mich.

I guess my question is how is Army the fave here...kinda scares me a little.

Funny, I had the complete opposite reaction. My take on Army before last week's result was that they would be trending sideways or up from what was a pretty good year last year. Sort of the opposite for HI - trending sideways to down.

I expected Army to be at least a 7 point favorite before week 1 and not much change especially with the travel and weird start time and they still won the game on the road last week. Plus you can always count for some extra points in the line for HIs awful road displays.

As far as HI performance, I think you cant read much to how that game played out. USC was underprepared as admitted by the coaches.

I am with Box on this one (per ususual)
Good luck,
Pistol
 

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Always enjoy your insight Box.

Just curious if you're worried about Hawaii travelling over 5 time zones for a game that starts at 6 AM HI time?

Hawaii games are always tough for me to play on the road but I'm pulling for you brother!
 

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Per Box's write up...

Hawaii got to town on Wednesday.
 

Box and one

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Hawaii +3 over Army ******
Line has gone up but that doesn't scare me. I know the big question is that everyone is afraid of the Rainbows defense.Can they stop the Army option attack.And of course that is what worries me.Hassan has added a new wrinkle in their attack inside which gives Army some plays on the outside.That is what they lacked last yr.Now Army can control the ball and the clock.But Army has never seen an air attack like this and their personal don't match up.I think Army will score 24 to 27 points.And that is a lot for Army.I just think they can keep up with Monitz and his crew.The 3 Wr's all had over 100 yds last week vs USC.I don't care how bad USC is this year they do have speed in the backfield.Army doesn't.Salas is a big time wr and Pilares had 175 yds. I know I have said this already.. Army has problems defending athletic,running qb's.Monitz ran for 5 1st downs last week.Army will play 5 or 6 DB's on almost every down. These guys saw 9 total passes last week and 8 went to the TE.Think Bows will run a lot also.Bows have Green and Dimure who are solid.
I know I said enough...Army has improved and will do much better.They did not look good last week in so many departments.[kicking,punting,etc]They are playing at home and I'm sure Ellison has worked on all those.
But the Rainbows are a different style team playing in a great low 70 degrees temperature on a sunny day.And the Bows last yr did a good job on stopping the Navy option offense.
Think Bows win by 2 or 3 td's...the over 52 sounds good but Army just doesn't score a lot of points. If you look at their last 35 to 40 games they always score below 24 pts.Last yr they scored at home,19,24,16,16,10,22.The yr before 7,10,3,17,14,and 7.And some of those teams were VMI,NewHampshire,,Duke,etc.


A few others Sun conf games
Ark St +2.5 over UL Laf **
Ok St -13.5 over Troy **

East Carolina -13 over Memphis **
BYU +2 over Air Force **
Bama -12.5 over Penn St ***

North Texas -3 over Rice **
NT looked so good vs Clemson gaining over 450 yds.Rice lost to Texas but kept it close.Dunbar looked great for NT and I think he breaks a few today and NT covers.Not a big play because both teams are young and not used to winning.
 

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Great write up as usual.

When scribbling down some stuff before the lines came out I thought we'd see the Rainbows as a 2-3 point fave.

Everybody saw them stand toe to toe with Usc and completely manhandle the Usc defense.

Army struggled mightily to squeak past E. Mich.

I guess my question is how is Army the fave here...kinda scares me a little.


This is why I am on Army, RRC

GL on rest, Box
 

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On Hawaii myself Box....they should have success both in the air and on the ground. Army gave up two 100+ yard rushers last week! OVER could be solid play here also, but with the Bows being able to run that will open up many passing lanes.....Army will get their points too, but Bows just will have more. Hope so....GL!!
 
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