Wilson, you were right. WV is at 9.5 now so I grabbed it for a small play. It is off the board at CRIS????
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Boys..Get this one NOW!!!!!!!!!!
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Does anyone know how quincy wilson's knee is after last week?
If he plays......................FORGET ABOUT IT WVU ROLES
If he plays......................FORGET ABOUT IT WVU ROLES
Quincy is fine...He practiced each day this week with no soreness. He just bruised his knee on Saturday. In regards to this game....I hate laying most of my bankroll on one game...but, with this one, I have to take a chance.
If WVU would have beaten Wisconsin, I would say they would be a little flat this weekend. No chance of that happening now.
If WVU would have beaten Wisconsin, I would say they would be a little flat this weekend. No chance of that happening now.
Love this line -9.5 @ VIP.
ECU off of four days rest after a terrible beating (I agree Acehistr8), plus factor the lacksidasical effort that ECU d-line gave against the Cinncinnati run and the dominant rushing attack of WV....I gotta take this for 4 units.
West Virginia was 4-2-0 SU and 3-2-1 ATS in last five games against ECU.
West Virginia when they are the Favorite with a spread of greater than 8.
West Virginia was 9-1-0 SU and 5-5-0 ATS in these games. With all five loses ATS coming as a -13 or greater point favorite.
ECU off of four days rest after a terrible beating (I agree Acehistr8), plus factor the lacksidasical effort that ECU d-line gave against the Cinncinnati run and the dominant rushing attack of WV....I gotta take this for 4 units.
West Virginia was 4-2-0 SU and 3-2-1 ATS in last five games against ECU.
West Virginia when they are the Favorite with a spread of greater than 8.
West Virginia was 9-1-0 SU and 5-5-0 ATS in these games. With all five loses ATS coming as a -13 or greater point favorite.
no chance of letdown.........
MORGANTOWN
By Mickey Furfari
Wiley says WVU needs win to get rid of bad taste
Coming oh-so-close to upsetting Wisconsin isn?t good enough for West Virginia linebacker Grant Wiley.
?There?s no such thing as a moral victory,? the leader of the Mountaineer defense said earlier in the week.
?We didn?t have enough points on the board last Saturday. And losing is not what we?re out there to do.
?We?ve just got to eliminate the mistakes we made, continue to get better, and we?ll be fine.?
Wiley, a 6-1, 235-pound senior, was credited with a team-high 15 tackles in the 24-17 loss to the 21st-ranked Badgers.
WVU coaches named him co-defensive player of the week. Cornerback Brian King is the other.
King logged 13 tackles, one more than strong safety Mike Lorello had.
Wiley and King agreed that it wasn?t a matter of lack of hustle or lack of heart in the season?s opener.
?It was just a couple guys messing up on a couple plays,? King said. ?We?ll get that straightened out.?
Wiley said, ?I think our minds are set on wanting to get better. Every day when we go out for practice, we know what we?re capable of doing.
?Everybody is hungry to get better, and everybody wants to win and get rid of that bad taste of losing.
?This week would be a perfect time to do it.?
The Mountaineers open the road portion of their schedule at 7 p.m. Saturday at East Carolina, a 40-3 victim of Cincinnati.
Wiley doesn?t think fatigue was a factor as Wisconsin rallied for two touchdowns in the fourth quarter.
?It was just mental breakdowns at certain times,? he said. ?We play teams that big week in and week out.
?East Carolina has a bunch of big guys up front, too. Boston College puts out gigantic lines every year. Miami does the same thing.
?So I don?t think size has anything to do with that. We?ve got guys two and three deep that are capable of playing well. And that?s encouraging.?
He expects the team to show steady improvement throughout the season.
King said, ?I?d rather get blown out by 45-0 than lose like we did to Wisconsin, especially to be up most of the game and playing pretty well.?
MORGANTOWN
By Mickey Furfari
Wiley says WVU needs win to get rid of bad taste
Coming oh-so-close to upsetting Wisconsin isn?t good enough for West Virginia linebacker Grant Wiley.
?There?s no such thing as a moral victory,? the leader of the Mountaineer defense said earlier in the week.
?We didn?t have enough points on the board last Saturday. And losing is not what we?re out there to do.
?We?ve just got to eliminate the mistakes we made, continue to get better, and we?ll be fine.?
Wiley, a 6-1, 235-pound senior, was credited with a team-high 15 tackles in the 24-17 loss to the 21st-ranked Badgers.
WVU coaches named him co-defensive player of the week. Cornerback Brian King is the other.
King logged 13 tackles, one more than strong safety Mike Lorello had.
Wiley and King agreed that it wasn?t a matter of lack of hustle or lack of heart in the season?s opener.
?It was just a couple guys messing up on a couple plays,? King said. ?We?ll get that straightened out.?
Wiley said, ?I think our minds are set on wanting to get better. Every day when we go out for practice, we know what we?re capable of doing.
?Everybody is hungry to get better, and everybody wants to win and get rid of that bad taste of losing.
?This week would be a perfect time to do it.?
The Mountaineers open the road portion of their schedule at 7 p.m. Saturday at East Carolina, a 40-3 victim of Cincinnati.
Wiley doesn?t think fatigue was a factor as Wisconsin rallied for two touchdowns in the fourth quarter.
?It was just mental breakdowns at certain times,? he said. ?We play teams that big week in and week out.
?East Carolina has a bunch of big guys up front, too. Boston College puts out gigantic lines every year. Miami does the same thing.
?So I don?t think size has anything to do with that. We?ve got guys two and three deep that are capable of playing well. And that?s encouraging.?
He expects the team to show steady improvement throughout the season.
King said, ?I?d rather get blown out by 45-0 than lose like we did to Wisconsin, especially to be up most of the game and playing pretty well.?
RUSHING AROUND
By Chuck McGill
Associate Sports Editor
Forgive John Thompson for not understanding. He wasn't there.
Thompson, who will be coaching his first-ever home game at East Carolina this weekend, was manning the sidelines at the University of Florida last year when it happened.
West Virginia, playing East Carolina in front of its home crowd, racked up a mind-boggling 536 yards on the ground on its way to a 37-17 victory.
Thompson, however, was present for last weekend's miserable defensive performance, in which his Pirate D yielded 361 yards on the ground to an average Cincinnati backfield.
If Thompson is expecting to claim his first victory as a collegiate head coach, his defense must hope WVU's Quincy Wilson and his backfield mates do not show up on Saturday night.
It was Wilson, if you recall, who came off the bench to contribute 198 yards rushing by himself. The starter, Avon Cobourne, managed to squeeze out 260 before retiring early in the second half.
ECU's Thompson is rebuilding a squad that has experienced marginal success in recent years, but never reached the level anticipated.
Steve Logan was fired as head coach and Thompson has lost his best player, Art Brown, to a knee injury, but it seems there are young pieces in place for future success.
They say the greatest improvement in a football team is from week one to week two. East Carolina fans are praying this holds true, or a repeat of last season's performance is possible.
Here's a rundown of what to expect from the Pirates, who are 0-1 after losing to Cincinnati 40-3 last week.
PASS OFFENSE:
Th ompson and his coaching staff have placed the starting quarterback job in the hands of Desmond Robinson, who beat out last year's starter, Paul Troth.
The pair split time against Cincinnati last week, but Robinson will get the start against WVU.
Robinson and Troth, who combined for 146 yards passing last year, have only one legitimate receiver in Terrance Copper. The six-foot receiver caught a career-best 11 balls last week, while no other receiver caught more than one.
Look for both quarterbacks to get work in this game, especially if the score gets out of hand early.
Grade: D
RUSH OFFENSE:
A preseason all-conference selection and Doak Walker candidate, Brown was to be a lone bright spot in Thompson's inaugural year.
But Brown suffered a devastating injury, which means the running game falls onto the shoulders of 198-pound junior Marvin Townes.
The shifty back struggled in just his third career start last week, gaining a team-high 39 yards on 15 carries.
As a team, ECU mustered only 57 rushing yards despite 32 attempts.
The Pirate rushers do have the benefit of running behind a senior-laden line anchored by Brian Rimpf, but West Virginia offers up a greater challenge than the Bearcats, so do not expect any improvement in this area.
Grade: D
PASS DEFENSE:
While the Pirates may not experience immediate success under Thompson, ECU and WVU fans will notice a new attitude on defense.
Thompson is a defensive wizard, and will rely on two seniors in the defensive backfield to help a very young front six.
The quintet was not tested much last week because of Cincinnati's success on the ground, but WVU may test the secondary on Saturday.
Travis Heath, the starting rover, is this group's best player and a playmaking threat.
Grade: C-
RUSH DEFENSE:
Even under the influence of Thompson, this group did not seem improved against an otherwise unspectacular Cincinnati rushing attack.
The defensive scheme calls for only three down linemen, and two of those were making their first start last week.
Damane Duckett brings the only experience along the line. He made 45 tackles as a junior last season.
A pair of up-and-coming sophomores highlight the defense.
Chris Moore, who set an ECU single-game record last week with 24 tackles, and Josh Chilsom, the team's top returning tackler, will be called on often this Saturday.
Moore will man the inside, while Chilsom and first-year starter Ike Emodi will start outside.
Grade: D
OUTLOOK:
Other than the backing of a home crowd at Dowdy-Ficklen Stadium, East Carolina has very little reason for optimism.
West Virginia does have an inexperienced offensive line, but to the four newcomers, ECU's defensive front will prove to be no test compared to Wisconsin.
In the end, WVU will find plenty of time to rack up points and yardage, while working out any remaining kinks in the system.
This year, however, the offensive performance will be overshadowed by spectacular defensive play, as the Mountaineer defense appears loaded with playmakers and will create several turnovers.
Prediction: West Virginia 49, East Carolina 14.
By Chuck McGill
Associate Sports Editor
Forgive John Thompson for not understanding. He wasn't there.
Thompson, who will be coaching his first-ever home game at East Carolina this weekend, was manning the sidelines at the University of Florida last year when it happened.
West Virginia, playing East Carolina in front of its home crowd, racked up a mind-boggling 536 yards on the ground on its way to a 37-17 victory.
Thompson, however, was present for last weekend's miserable defensive performance, in which his Pirate D yielded 361 yards on the ground to an average Cincinnati backfield.
If Thompson is expecting to claim his first victory as a collegiate head coach, his defense must hope WVU's Quincy Wilson and his backfield mates do not show up on Saturday night.
It was Wilson, if you recall, who came off the bench to contribute 198 yards rushing by himself. The starter, Avon Cobourne, managed to squeeze out 260 before retiring early in the second half.
ECU's Thompson is rebuilding a squad that has experienced marginal success in recent years, but never reached the level anticipated.
Steve Logan was fired as head coach and Thompson has lost his best player, Art Brown, to a knee injury, but it seems there are young pieces in place for future success.
They say the greatest improvement in a football team is from week one to week two. East Carolina fans are praying this holds true, or a repeat of last season's performance is possible.
Here's a rundown of what to expect from the Pirates, who are 0-1 after losing to Cincinnati 40-3 last week.
PASS OFFENSE:
Th ompson and his coaching staff have placed the starting quarterback job in the hands of Desmond Robinson, who beat out last year's starter, Paul Troth.
The pair split time against Cincinnati last week, but Robinson will get the start against WVU.
Robinson and Troth, who combined for 146 yards passing last year, have only one legitimate receiver in Terrance Copper. The six-foot receiver caught a career-best 11 balls last week, while no other receiver caught more than one.
Look for both quarterbacks to get work in this game, especially if the score gets out of hand early.
Grade: D
RUSH OFFENSE:
A preseason all-conference selection and Doak Walker candidate, Brown was to be a lone bright spot in Thompson's inaugural year.
But Brown suffered a devastating injury, which means the running game falls onto the shoulders of 198-pound junior Marvin Townes.
The shifty back struggled in just his third career start last week, gaining a team-high 39 yards on 15 carries.
As a team, ECU mustered only 57 rushing yards despite 32 attempts.
The Pirate rushers do have the benefit of running behind a senior-laden line anchored by Brian Rimpf, but West Virginia offers up a greater challenge than the Bearcats, so do not expect any improvement in this area.
Grade: D
PASS DEFENSE:
While the Pirates may not experience immediate success under Thompson, ECU and WVU fans will notice a new attitude on defense.
Thompson is a defensive wizard, and will rely on two seniors in the defensive backfield to help a very young front six.
The quintet was not tested much last week because of Cincinnati's success on the ground, but WVU may test the secondary on Saturday.
Travis Heath, the starting rover, is this group's best player and a playmaking threat.
Grade: C-
RUSH DEFENSE:
Even under the influence of Thompson, this group did not seem improved against an otherwise unspectacular Cincinnati rushing attack.
The defensive scheme calls for only three down linemen, and two of those were making their first start last week.
Damane Duckett brings the only experience along the line. He made 45 tackles as a junior last season.
A pair of up-and-coming sophomores highlight the defense.
Chris Moore, who set an ECU single-game record last week with 24 tackles, and Josh Chilsom, the team's top returning tackler, will be called on often this Saturday.
Moore will man the inside, while Chilsom and first-year starter Ike Emodi will start outside.
Grade: D
OUTLOOK:
Other than the backing of a home crowd at Dowdy-Ficklen Stadium, East Carolina has very little reason for optimism.
West Virginia does have an inexperienced offensive line, but to the four newcomers, ECU's defensive front will prove to be no test compared to Wisconsin.
In the end, WVU will find plenty of time to rack up points and yardage, while working out any remaining kinks in the system.
This year, however, the offensive performance will be overshadowed by spectacular defensive play, as the Mountaineer defense appears loaded with playmakers and will create several turnovers.
Prediction: West Virginia 49, East Carolina 14.
That's exactly how I see this game going.
I am getting out of control with my wager on this game.
I am getting out of control with my wager on this game.
MORGANTOWN-The John Thompson-era got off to a rocky start on Monday as Conference-USA rival Cincinnati hung a 40-3 thumping on the ex-University of Florida defensive coordinator.
Thompson inherited a Pirates' team that posted a 4-8 mark in 2002 (4-4 in C-USA) and gave up an average of 33.2 points per game.
Making matters worse, as if anything could, was the return of only five starters from that unit.
What the veteran defensive coordinator was hoping was that a combination of 20 returning lettermen on defense and a switch from ECU's 3-4 alignment to a more multiple front would make up for the lack of experience the unit would suffer through.
If Monday's game is any indication, the jury is still out on those assumptions.
The Bearcats ran and passed the Pirates silly for four quarters, amassing 361 yards on the ground while the passing game-primarily returning starter Gino Guidugli-completed 14 of 27 attempts for 128 yards.
Conversely, the Pirates' offensive attack was able to muster a paltry 57 yards rushing on 32 carries and 146 through the air on the combined efforts of junior Desmond Robinson and returning starter Paul Troth, who was dropped to the backup role one week ago.
As if the first-year head coach needed any further headaches, the Pirates return home on Saturday night to take on a West Virginia team that rushed for 536 yards in a 37-17 rout a year ago.
"They (East Carolina) are going to be waiting for us after what happened last year," said senior superback Quincy Wilson.
What ECU will see will be a Mountaineer squad that is 0-1 on the season, but could have just as well been 1-0.
With returning starting quarterback Rasheed Marshall at Ruby Memorial Hospital undergoing tests for an abdominal bruise, the gold and blue ran off 17 unanswered points behind backup signal-caller Charles Hales to take a 17-7 lead six minutes into the third quarter.
However, with their experienced signal-caller back under center West Virginia failed to score again while Wisconsin tallied the last 17 points of the game to pull out a 24-17 come-from-behind victory at Mountaineer Field.
"If we had executed down the stretch we could have won the game," said third-year WVU head coach Rich Rodriguez. "They did and they won the game."
It was the one scenario the ex-Mountaineer defensive back most feared when faced with opening the season against a highly ranked opponent and having as many as 14 new starters on the field.
And, it remains a major concern as Rodriguez prepares to take his team on its first road trip of the 2003 campaign.
"They have had a chance to at least break us down because of film from last year," said the coach. "But, we won't know until Monday's game exactly what changes he (coach Thompson) has made."
And, what the Mountaineer coach and his assistants witnessed was a Pirate squad which showed signs of talent, but too many inconsistencies on both offense and defense to provide much of a test for Cincinnati.
What Rodriguez and his players should have seen is a chance for their first win of the new season if they are able to play four quarters of consistent football.
Kickoff for Saturday's game at 43,000-seat Dowdy-Ficklen Stadium is 7 p.m. The game will not be televised.
West Virginia is 12-2 against the Pirates and 3-1 in Greenville. However, the Mountaineers' last visit to Dowdy-Ficklen Stadium ended in a 23-20 loss in 1995.
Thompson inherited a Pirates' team that posted a 4-8 mark in 2002 (4-4 in C-USA) and gave up an average of 33.2 points per game.
Making matters worse, as if anything could, was the return of only five starters from that unit.
What the veteran defensive coordinator was hoping was that a combination of 20 returning lettermen on defense and a switch from ECU's 3-4 alignment to a more multiple front would make up for the lack of experience the unit would suffer through.
If Monday's game is any indication, the jury is still out on those assumptions.
The Bearcats ran and passed the Pirates silly for four quarters, amassing 361 yards on the ground while the passing game-primarily returning starter Gino Guidugli-completed 14 of 27 attempts for 128 yards.
Conversely, the Pirates' offensive attack was able to muster a paltry 57 yards rushing on 32 carries and 146 through the air on the combined efforts of junior Desmond Robinson and returning starter Paul Troth, who was dropped to the backup role one week ago.
As if the first-year head coach needed any further headaches, the Pirates return home on Saturday night to take on a West Virginia team that rushed for 536 yards in a 37-17 rout a year ago.
"They (East Carolina) are going to be waiting for us after what happened last year," said senior superback Quincy Wilson.
What ECU will see will be a Mountaineer squad that is 0-1 on the season, but could have just as well been 1-0.
With returning starting quarterback Rasheed Marshall at Ruby Memorial Hospital undergoing tests for an abdominal bruise, the gold and blue ran off 17 unanswered points behind backup signal-caller Charles Hales to take a 17-7 lead six minutes into the third quarter.
However, with their experienced signal-caller back under center West Virginia failed to score again while Wisconsin tallied the last 17 points of the game to pull out a 24-17 come-from-behind victory at Mountaineer Field.
"If we had executed down the stretch we could have won the game," said third-year WVU head coach Rich Rodriguez. "They did and they won the game."
It was the one scenario the ex-Mountaineer defensive back most feared when faced with opening the season against a highly ranked opponent and having as many as 14 new starters on the field.
And, it remains a major concern as Rodriguez prepares to take his team on its first road trip of the 2003 campaign.
"They have had a chance to at least break us down because of film from last year," said the coach. "But, we won't know until Monday's game exactly what changes he (coach Thompson) has made."
And, what the Mountaineer coach and his assistants witnessed was a Pirate squad which showed signs of talent, but too many inconsistencies on both offense and defense to provide much of a test for Cincinnati.
What Rodriguez and his players should have seen is a chance for their first win of the new season if they are able to play four quarters of consistent football.
Kickoff for Saturday's game at 43,000-seat Dowdy-Ficklen Stadium is 7 p.m. The game will not be televised.
West Virginia is 12-2 against the Pirates and 3-1 in Greenville. However, the Mountaineers' last visit to Dowdy-Ficklen Stadium ended in a 23-20 loss in 1995.
Nick - The line kept creeping up to 12 here with my local. Glad I got down at 9.5.
WV starting to put the hammer down. 27 - 0 2Q
Long way to go.
WV starting to put the hammer down. 27 - 0 2Q
Long way to go.
34-0 and WV going in again.
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Nice call Wilson
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