Absolutely Mr rattler I agree with that... like I said last week, manzeil staying healthy and playing decent is the Browns winning... browns don't have any play makers to help out manzeil... Josh gordon? I also think the game is a bit too quick for manzeil still... he's not used to de running him down with ease... nor did he really take a shot from anyone last week... He will get hit this game... Also the panthers playing better as of lately... defense has improved Imo. .. some key guys back on offense for this game... Heisman against heisman... I think scam and his boys will be hungry for fooosball