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[ferdville]

of the Los Angeles Times -
Louisiana Officials Indicted Before Katrina Hit

According to the Bush hating, ultra liberal Los Angeles Times, federal audits have discovered dubious expenditures by the state's emergency preparedness agency. They are awaiting trial on allegations of waste, mismanagement and missing funds. In March, FEMA demanded a repayment of 30.4 million that was not used appropriately.

Most of the money that was unaccounted for was sent to Louisiana under the Hazard Mitigation Grant program that is designed to help states retrofit and improve flood control facilities.

An example of the corruptuion, certainly not a stranger to Louisiana, is a grant of 40.5 million sent to Louisiana mostly for the Hazzard Mitigation program. Of the approximte 16 million awarded awarded to subcontracters, receipts were NOT AVAILABLE for 97% of the spending.

Another 10.7 million allocated to buy up property in high risk areas was given to local communities who determined which property owners would benefit.

Now before Stevie D(elusional) gets his panties in a knot over this let me explain 2 things --
1. Haliburton did not get any of the contracts
2. The Michael Brown involved in the corruption is not the Michael Brown who was former FEMA director.

I wonder why this is on page 17 and not page 1?

I wonder how Stevie D(elusional) will spin this one as W's fault?

 

[StevieD]

I never said the flood was Bushes fault. I said the relief effort was slow on the federal side. Something Bush also admits. So please show me where I am delusioal on this one? Maybe if get you just look at the facts without the hate you could get back on track.

 

[Nosigar]

Stevie D(elusional)

:mj07: :mj07: :clap:

 

[Nosigar]

Maybe if get you just look at the facts without the hate you could get back on track.

Here goes the "everyting is emotional" theme. Hate - Love, anger, sadness, pitty. Nothing for you is about common sense or rational thinking. Talk about being off track.

Maybe you should act in a 60's TV show like Star Trek where everything that happens isl about "emotions".

 

[danmurphy jr]

Cheney visited LA. Before they ran him out and after Murdoch's minions kissed his ass and got the electricity for is pipelines turned on in 16 hours, the hospitals and emergency services on in 3 days. His reasoning was the poor locals didn't have much use for it anyway. Personally naming and bashing repliers shows the lack of credibility to any point made. Just go kick your cat.

 

[ferdville]

" But why were people on a bridge for 4 days and we couldn't drop them food or water? That is the fault of Bush. His cronism put incompetent people in charge of vital agencies." Stevie D

Hmm - maybe if Louisiana hadn't wasted millions of dollars of the government's money (wait, the government's money is really taxpayer money, our money, isn't it) on graft and fraud, maybe we wouldn't have had to worry about getting food to people. Maybe if they had spent some of that money to retrofit things would not have been so bad. But it is easier to blame somebody else? That is the Stevie D(elusional) theme song - play the blame game on anyone who doesn't agree with my OPINION

 

[Nosigar]

Personally naming and bashing repliers shows the lack of credibility to any point made. Just go kick your cat.

Sorry but the left should be exposed. Us conservatives work based on common sense and rarely are vociferous in expressing our ideas, so bashing untrue and agenda driven ridiculous ideas is a must to counter such false statements.

Personal responsability is never echoed by you guys but external responsability always is made up.

 

[StevieD]

Nosigar stop your crying will you.You have never made a positive statement in here. What is scary is that you actually think you do. Ferd, again you duck the issue. The feds were slow getting help to the people. You are the one taking the easy way out. You can blame the locals, or anyone you want for the flood. I am talking about the delay in getting aid after the flood. Bush see;s it. Why can't you? You have to blame a liberal for it.

 

[Nosigar]

Nosigar stop your crying will you.You have never made a positive statement in here. What is scary is that you actually think you do. Ferd, again you duck the issue. The feds were slow getting help to the people. You are the one taking the easy way out. You can blame the locals, or anyone you want for the flood. I am talking about the delay in getting aid after the flood. Bush see;s it. Why can't you? You have to blame a liberal for it.

Geeze, man, positive? How the hell can I make a positive statement. This forum is to call out you commies, period.

What the fuqk, you think this a friggin' therapy session? Get your head out of your ass. That's all I'm telling you.
You fuqkers are and have been destroying this country and the rest of the world with your divisiveness, lack of control, authority, morality, values, common sense, and responsibility. You infect our children since grade school with idiot-ocracy and mediocity, permeate the media with falsehood and propaganda while claiming to pursue and possess a higher calling, you destroy values that have helped humanity advance since the creation of civilization, and still claim to be the do-gooders because you want to give money away to many who don't want to fend for themselves (not can't), pardon those who commit heinous crimes against society, worship and support the most corrupt, murderous and evil world leaders and overall hate all those who dare utter a single word of dissent against you? I got news for you, you are in the minority. - Yes, minority - I guess you deserve special treatment for that too.
Positive statement, gimme a fukkin' break.
How about a positive life. Get you one !

 

[StevieD]

Hey Nosigar, I am against the war and against cutting taxes. You don't know anything else about me. One of the great conservatives of our time Pat Buccanon happens to agree with me about Iraq. So why don't you read something before you comment on it ok? Most of these Supreme Court Judges you guys hate were appointed by conservatives. Bush is a Neocon. He ain't a conservative. Get your head out of your a$$ and away from Fox News for a minute and stop drinking the Kool Aid.

 

[djv]

You want to see a white wash. Wait to the congress has there hearing or what ever they will call it. Majority party will get 9 seats and 7 for minority. And I believe majority gets subpoenas power only.
Only thing that may keep it close to honest is elections are coming in 13 months. Our press in this country is not only pro's at hiding things.

 

[JCDunkDogs]

Good one, djv.

Wow, did this thread clear the air?

 

[ferdville]

StevieD

" One of the great conservatives of our time Pat Buccanon happens to agree with me about Iraq."

That pretty much sums it all up in that one little sentence.

And by the way Stevie D(elusional), maybe I will take one of your heroes to task. I thnk it was about 1995. Your role model and hero William Jefferson Clinton was president. There was a heat wave in Chicago and about 750 people died due to the heat. Most of the dead were old, black, and poor. During this time period Mr. Clinton was playing golf with his pals. He didn't immediately rush federal help into Chicago with air conditioners in hand. He didn't evacuate those at risk even though there was nothing save a boiling radiator that would have stopped the help. He didn't send in any extra water. He just went on with his business as president and people pretty much figured that it was a Chicago problem and an Illinois problem. Were you ranting and raving and moaning and whining about that one?

How about the incident at WACO? Did that go down the way you think it should have been? Or was it just convenient to blame Janet Reno instead? Personally, I think that despite his many faults, Clinton was a better president overall than Bush. But is seems like you prefer to hold him and anyone else on the left side of the line to a different standard. If it is so easy for the President to step in and fix problems in all the states, where was Mr. C during these two incidents? Why didn't he intervene in a more forceful manner to save lives? I guarantee that you would call Bush to task if these incidents occurred under his watch. Or would you not? Or would you criticize Clinton? What is your take on this?

 

[dawgball]

Speaking of Kool-Aid, I flipped over to Fox last night during a comercial break of Mad Money, and they had a Minister of the New Black Panther Party on one of the shows (I don't really watch it enough to know the names). This dude was psycho! He said that he believed Fahrekhan really did go to a "hovering ring" above the Earth and talk about how white people are racially motivated.

One of the hosts kept referring to him as drinking the "Fahrekhan Kool-aid". It was actually quite funny. I think the minister kept referring to the host as the devil.

 

[djv]

Yes that is Foxs new thing. The right and left cool aid. They seem to have dropped the flip flop they been using. As I see O'Reilly start to attack his buds on the right. I wonder if more right wingers are waking up.

 

[dawgball]

I'm not defending anyone on Fox because I don't watch enough news to have an opinion on any channel (besides CNBC), but you have to remember that there is a difference in Democrats and Republicans compared to Left and Right wingers.

Not EVERY newscaster is a fringe journalist. Just most of them!

 

[CHARLESMANSON]

I think it's funny how all the liberals who claim to hate Fox end up watching it. :brows: I guess that's why their ratings dominate everyone elses.

 

[kosar]

I think it's funny how all the liberals who hate Fox end up watching it. :brows:

No doubt. And how about the righties that ONLY watch it and nothing else? That's downright hysterical.

 

[CHARLESMANSON]

Yeah I'm laughing so hard I almost busted a gut.

 

[kosar]

Keep an open mind, Manson. There's a great big world out there beyond Fox News.