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Jabberwocky

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ouch...I guess the "silent" majority has been replaced with the blowhard minority.

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Pew 11/20-26/07 30 59 11 -29
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FOX/Opinion Dynamics RV 11/13-14/07 36 56 8 -20
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Gallup 11/11-14/07 32 61 7 -29
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AP-Ipsos 11/5-7/07 32 65 * -33
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NBC/Wall Street Journal
11/1-5/07 31 63 6 -32
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CNN/Opinion Research 11/2-4/07 34 65 1 -31
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USA Today/Gallup 11/2-4/07 31 64 5 -33
 
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Wow Nixon range 30 to 31%. Old man Clinton still has 42%. Saw a couple like, you tupe sites yesterday that asked is Bush believeable 20% said yes. You can tell it When you listen to republicans running for Pres. They seldom even mention Bush by name. Or talk how there going to keep on his great work he started. He has little. Listen to night when they debate count the times you here Bush mention as having good ideas.
 

DOGS THAT BARK

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believe you forgot the other side of coin--the dem congress
I see the lowest since records kept at NBC/WSJ
19%

Since Bush won't be running you might put your concerns other places--have you seen the new poll on Hows Iraq war going--that might be another consideration--along with Hilliaries losing to any GOP candidate.

However kind of pulling for you all in one respect as I believe another setback might be too much--on flip side though I would miss reading the Daily Kos and Moveon wailing and nashing of teeth post election again :)

on added note I wish Hilliary would get Bill off the campaign-he's putting my Hilliary to win nomination wager in danger--even the liberal press is catching on--
Will provide the link vs cut and past as pic enhances topic.
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20071128/ap_po/on_deadline_bill_clinton_1
 

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I read the article you linked, and it sounds like to me that Bill is playing fantastically in Iowa. I read the things he orated on, and they are pretty much what Iowans can relate to and want to hear. He spoke for 50 minutes in an organized, specific manner, with no notes, and left the listeners with a good feeling about a Hillary presidency, and let people know he was going to be a part of the scene.

I think most politicians rewrite history to their own bidding...that's nothing new. Sounds like to me he did a great job - as he always does - in speaking to prospective voters.
 

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Congress has been at or below 25% for last 3 years. Thats why you saw the big hit on Reb last year.
As for myself Hillary is not my selection. Rudy and Romney sure hell aren't either. Paul is better then both. I do hope I find one I can pull the lever for.
We do need a congress with a Pres That will work with them. Maybe they can do something positive.
As for Bush. He may have doomed your chance of any Reb this time around.
 

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Probably a good thing for republicans that Bush can't run again. Evidently, he wouldn't even have garnered support from Karl Rove, considering his recent suggestions to other republican candidates for office to distance themselves from Dubbya for their own good.
 

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I read the article you linked, and it sounds like to me that Bill is playing fantastically in Iowa. I read the things he orated on, and they are pretty much what Iowans can relate to and want to hear. He spoke for 50 minutes in an organized, specific manner, with no notes, and left the listeners with a good feeling about a Hillary presidency, and let people know he was going to be a part of the scene.

I think most politicians rewrite history to their own bidding...that's nothing new. Sounds like to me he did a great job - as he always does - in speaking to prospective voters.

Bill is still very popular here in the Tall Corn State. if he could be on the ballot again, there is no question he would carry Iowa(and many other states) easily. Hillary on the other hand...:shrug:
 

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I read the article you linked, and it sounds like to me that Bill is playing fantastically in Iowa. I read the things he orated on, and they are pretty much what Iowans can relate to and want to hear. He spoke for 50 minutes in an organized, specific manner, with no notes, and left the listeners with a good feeling about a Hillary presidency, and let people know he was going to be a part of the scene.

I think most politicians rewrite history to their own bidding...that's nothing new. Sounds like to me he did a great job - as he always does - in speaking to prospective voters.

That would depend Chad on if anyone is aware what he said earlier and compares it to what he is saying now--the pic should have been your clue :)

interview with Time 2004-
http://www.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,994507-8,00.html

"That's why I supported the Iraq thing. There was a lot of stuff unaccounted for. So I thought the President had an absolute responsibility to go to the U.N. and say, "Look, guys, after 9/11, you have got to demand that Saddam Hussein lets us finish the inspection process." You couldn't responsibly ignore [the possibility that] a tyrant had these stocks. I never really thought he'd [use them]. What I was far more worried about was that he'd sell this stuff or give it away. Same thing I've always been worried about North Korea's nuclear and missile capacity. I don't expect North Korea to bomb South Korea, because they know it would be the end of their country. But if you can't feed yourself, the temptation to sell this stuff is overwhelming. So that's why I thought Bush did the right thing to go back. When you're the President, and your country has just been through what we had, you want everything to be accounted for.


On whether the Iraq war was worth the costs

It's a judgment that no one can make definitively yet. I would not have done it until after Hans Blix finished his job. Having said that, over 600 of our people have died since the conflict was over. We've got a big stake now in making it work. I want it to have been worth it, even though I didn't agree with the timing of the attack. I think if you have a pluralistic, secure, stable Iraq, the people of Iraq will be better off, and it might help the process of internal reform in Saudi Arabia and elsewhere. I think right now, getting rid of Saddam's tyranny, ironically, has made Iraq more vulnerable to terrorism coming in from the outside. But any open society is going to be more vulnerable than any tyranny to that. "
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Ya get what I mean--its one to give advice after the fact especially if you can do a 360 flop everytime public opinion warrents it.--but quite another to have to make the decisions prior-and that goes for both parties.

You agree?
 

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I'm not sure I agree with much of what this thread surmises, Wayne. I think the initial post expressed your concern over Bill hurting Hillary's chances and your wager (which is ultimately your main concern in political affiliation - yourself) was what I challenged, and the best you can come up with is a question as to whether Joe Public is aware of your narrow comparison?

To answer, no, I don't think that many people are aware of it, especially voters in Iowa, etc. But I think they are aware of how well he speaks on behalf of Hillary, and that should help her. I think your premise is completely wrong, if that helps clear it up.
 

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You need somebody who is strong, competent and has good vision, and never forgets what it's like to be you," Clinton said.

And, no, he wasn't talking about himself.

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:142smilie :142smilie


How can Hillary never forget what its like to be you when she never knew what it like in the first friggin place.

Nice hit on Slick willy again DTB:SIB

Seriously is Billy one arrogant former first man
 

DOGS THAT BARK

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I think the positive is his abilty to draw a crowd--the negative is will bring up questions of the past.

Hilliary was cruising when not being confronted with tough or confrontational questions--stickng to her scripted interviews and ads--Russert exposed her ineptness to tough questions--was hoping she made it through primaries before be assualted by errors in the past which you can be assured is coming after primaries--However I believe Bill's presence is bringing these to forefront prematurily.

However still like the wager--but not as well.
 
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