Bush bashers are being disingenuous

[yyz]

There is a big difference between propaganda and balanced research.

Yes there is. If you are a conservative, and have balanced research, the liberals call it propaganda, and visa versa.

 

[PRO190]

Pro,

You miss the point. The $29 million figure is pure conjecture concocted by people who earn their living promoting immigration restriction. Don't you think there's just a chance they might use estimates that are greatly biased in favor of their argument? Of course. That is why I rightly accuse this of being propaganda. Show me an impartially researched study from an unbiased organization and I guarantee you that the numbers from CIS will be shown to be immensely bloated.

The main point, as it has always been, is that in the long run, there is absolutely no sensible large scale fiscal argument that can be made against open immigration. That is just a fact. Whatever short term cost we have will be dwarfed many times over by future financial gains from a more open immigration policy. Again, that is an indisputable fact.

My point remains. PRO190 is posting conservative propaganda and passing it off as fact. The study is flawed and not accepted by ANYONE except those whose ideology it supports.

yyz, you, like PRO190, are out of your league.

FACT: How many times above do you SAY that is just FACT, at least I have something that backs up my belief. SHOW me the FACTS you are referring to that substantiate your "FACTS" of conjecture, future financial gains,propaganda etc......
Odd how Camarata was featured on PBS Radio being such a Right Wing biased person.

YYZ, looks like we will have to start are own league, we obviously can't play ball with a High Roller like Nick
:hail

 

[yyz]

Pro,

Nick gets what he wants every time someone responds to his posts...........


By the way, I was listening to a sports talk show on the radio today, and they had a Canadien journalist who covers the NHL. He said that since the NHL is now on strike, he had to turn in his work visa, and go back to Ottawa. He said he was not allowed to stay in the states with no work!