Bush in a Landslide

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Freeze always accuses everyone of having memory problems, but seems we were all assured by GWB prior to the RNC, that it would not be negative and would focus on the achievements of this administration along with his 'platform' or vision for the next 4 years. Instead, it's been smear and fear and flag waving. Nothing like 'staying the couse' GWB.

All this smear campaign politics is all they have to offer and it's the most shameful political situation possible. The rest of the world must cringe at our pathetic attempt to elect the most powerful political leader in the world. Hell, I do.

But the smearing campaign by GWB is only going to work as long as Kerry is close in the poles. If the pole numbers start to move a little too much, Kerry will resort to the same tactic and it can be even uglier. What happens during the debate if Kerry asks "how long were you addicted to cocaine, George?" or "how many DWI's are there between you and Cheney, 4 or 5?" the questions like this could go on forever. GWB has already used up his bullets, Kerry hasn't even holstered up his gun. It will be GWB pleading for 'fairer' tactics when it all starts after Kerry starts resorting to the same tactics. Might be interesting, but lord knows it's no way of determining who should be president.
 

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apparantly you have slept through the whole past year

have you seen any bit of the last year of the democratic campaign?

ever heard of moveon.org or Mikey Moore?

and you accuse of Bush of being "negative"?

why? because he points out Kerry's record?

because somebody mentions all the "negative" things Kerry said about our troops while they were engaging in combat?

who is the one thats really being negative
 

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Sounds like 60 minutes has a good line up this weekend.
 

DOGS THAT BARK

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circled and not accepted in any Parlay or Teaser
per above statement

"US 2004 Presidential Race
Tue 5/10 Party to win 2004 US Presidential Election
06:00 AM
21 Republican Party -133
22 Democratic Party +123

If you like rebs go now if you like dems wait till after thursday.

Considering wagering on Kerry after Thur when I think you could get + 125 or better-----as a hedge against the stock market"

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not end of day yet and Bush speech not factored in but getting good bounce. You got to love these betting events dictated by emotion.

PRESIDENTAL ELECTION Odds
01-Nov---08:00p 200 ODDS TO WIN

01-Nov---08:00p 201 GEORGE W BUSH -160

01-Nov---08:00p 202 JOHN KERRY +130
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Final odds at conclusion of convention

Time # PRESIDENTAL ELECTION Odds
01-Nov---08:00p 200 ODDS TO WIN

01-Nov---08:00p 201 GEORGE W BUSH -190

01-Nov---08:00p 202 JOHN KERRY +150

bigger bounce than I anticipated--wonder if IE scalped it???
 

DOGS THAT BARK

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After what speech,Kerry's??? All I could see was him claiming that they all dissed him about his war record which somehow I missed because I can't remember one person that did. His comeback on Cheney was again war related with him saying Hey I served 2 tours. Yea right!!!!!!!!! While he apparently think his days in service is his strong point--it will prove to be his downfall.
---he got more chit coming his way--what an entagled web we weave----- :)

Navy Probes Kerry Medal

Friday, September 03, 2004



NEW YORK ? In what has been described by Navy officials as a routine process, the Pentagon's inspector general's office on Thursday referred to the secretary of the Navy a request to investigate medals won by Democratic presidential candidate John Kerry (search) during the Vietnam War.

Government watchdog group Judicial Watch (search) submitted the request for an investigation. Navy sources said the service will probe the medals, but added that most questions have arisen because of what appear to be errors in processing records.

Kerry received five medals during his four months in combat in Vietnam. Judicial Watch asked the Pentagon to investigate Kerry's receipt of the Silver Star with a "Combat V" designation (search), which stands for valor under fire.

Kerry's campaign Web site includes military records listing the Combat V citation. Navy procedures show that the Silver Star cannot carry a Combat V designation because part of the reason the medal is awarded is for valor under fire ? the added designation would be redundant. The findings of the probe, therefore, will not change the record of Kerry's Vietnam service.

In a letter to Judicial Watch, the inspector general's office said: "Concerning our allegations of violations of Uniform Code of Military Justice (search), we have the responsibility to ... 'report suspected or alleged violations.' We have informed the secretary of the Navy of the allegations."

Kerry campaign adviser Michael Meehan released a statement to FOX News that criticized the attention being paid to the request.

"The facts are clear, the Navy awarded John Kerry the Silver Star, a Bronze Star with a Combat V and three Purple Hearts. It is waste of taxpayer's dollars and the Pentagon's time, especially during wartime, to investigate a 35-year-old Navy clerical error," the statement reads.

The Navy has said that it's the responsibility of all personnel to correct errors in official records.

In 1996, Chief of Naval Operations Admiral Jeremy Boorda committed suicide when he learned that a reporter was about to disclose he had wrongly worn two Combat V pins on a Bronze Star, a medal that does not denote valor under fire.

At the time, Kerry told the Boston Herald that wrongly wearing the medals is a severe error in judgment.

"Is it wrong? Yes, it is very wrong. Sufficient to question his leadership position? The answer is yes," he is quoted as saying.

Kerry also spoke to the Boston Globe about the matter.

"If you wind up being less than what you're pretending to be, there is a major confrontation with value, self-esteem and your sense of how others view you."

Judicial Watch representatives said the group also wants an investigation into Kerry's third citation for the same Silver Star. In 1986, Kerry received the third citation after requesting a copy of his original citations. This one carried the signature and some additional words of praise under the signature of then-Navy Secretary John Lehman (search).

In a statement to FOX News, Lehman, who served on the Sept. 11 commission that investigated pre-2001 terror attack intelligence failings, said he had no idea why Kerry received a third citation under his signature, and that Navy records should be "thoroughly researched and the facts established."

Meanwhile, in an exclusive interview with FOX News, former President George H.W. Bush said questions raised about Kerry's protests against the Vietnam War were legitimate, and he saw nothing wrong with airing a TV ad assailing Kerry's anti-war testimony by the Swift Boat Veterans for Truth (search), a loosely regulated, independent political action group known as a 527.

"My view is the advertisement showing Senator Kerry as a young veteran coming back and using his own words to describe atrocities committed by his own soldiers, sailors, marines or whatever it is, is devastating," Bush said.

Bush 41 also said Kerry owes the nation and Vietnam veterans an apology.

"I think it is not enough to say, well, I made a youthful indiscretion, and I think Senator Kerry ought to apologize."
 

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Well the last thing we do not want or need is another election as last time. We don't need another president appointed. Why are 50% of the people in this great country so pissed off if Bush is so wonderful. And the other half are pissed off at Kerry and he's not even elected yet. Know doubt we need some real leader to come forward and heal and lead this country a heck of alot better then it's getting done. But just check the adds on T V and you know why many don't even throw there hat in the race to begin with.
 

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DJV---don't think speech after election helped kerry-line continues to move

Time # PRESIDENTAL ELECTION Odds
01-Nov---08:00p 200 ODDS TO WIN

01-Nov---08:00p 201 GEORGE W BUSH -235

01-Nov---08:00p 202 JOHN KERRY +160
 

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DOGS IS RIGHT.

BUT ALL HE PROVES IS THAT REPUBLICANS ARENT VERY GOOD GAMBLERS.

IF BUSH WINS AND HE WONT THANK GOD THEN AMERICA LOSES FOR 4 MORE YEARS.

AH WELL ITS ONLY 4 MORE YEARS :142lmao:
 

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kosar said:
Note to self: Bump this thread on 11/3.

I'ts 11/5 now Kosar, and you must have lost your note. :142lmao:

Thats OK, I think I said just below your comment that I would be doing the bumping... :clap:

Signed,

Ironlock
A Proud South Dakotan. We don't need a daddy, Tom. Bye Bye Daschle.

Hope your doing well my friend.
 
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