Bush Thinking Over Iraq

[djv]

That is one scary thought. Hell over 60% of the American people have done that already. And he is not paying attention. Just saw 61% to be correct. And his, That being Bush's job numbers now at 35%. Ouch. Well at least He's not in the 20's.

 

[SpursDynasty]

bush and thinking?

doesn't mix like oil and water?

 

[maverick2112]

You sure can tell he is not running for office again.......otherwise he would have to actually do something.........

 

[gardenweasel]

he`d better think....and hard...because pelosi`s choice as the new head of the intel committee thinks "al qayeda" is al gore`s cousin.....

 

[kosar]

he`d better think....and hard...because pelosi`s choice as the new head of the intel committee thinks "al qayeda" is al gore`s cousin.....

If one didn't already 'know' you, it would be almost inexplicable how you have not made one comment in 3 1/2 years on the total and complete ignorance of that region by this administration, the total and complete failure to obtain accurate intelligence about anything in Iraq, and then watch you scurry around the threads making jokes about a proposed committee chairman and his lack of knowledge about the exact same things, for Christs sake.

 

[gardenweasel]

i am concerned,buddy....really....

and i now understand the reyes appointment....over the eminently more qualified jane harmon....

since, the dems do not believe we are at war, there are no enemies besides republican americans. ...therefore,why learn about hezbollah when they have no plans to ever engage them?...just let them seize power in lebanon and all will be right with the world.....

as for reyes and his plans for al gore`s cousin(al qaeda).... it simply makes economic sense to clean up after one of their bombings than to engage them.....the dems believe we can take a hit like 9/11 every few years and it would be much cheaper on the economy than actually fighting them......afterall, how much do 3000 funerals really cost?...

i understand...

 

[kosar]

i am concerned,buddy....really....

and i now understand the reyes appointment....over the eminently more qualified jane harmon....

since, the dems do not believe we are at war, there are no enemies besides republican americans. ...therefore,why learn about hezbollah when they have no plans to ever engage them?...just let them seize power in lebanon and all will be right with the world.....

as for reyes and his plans for al gore`s cousin(al qaeda).... it simply makes economic sense to clean up after one of their bombings than to engage them.....the dems believe we can take a hit like 9/11 every few years and it would be much cheaper on the economy than actually fighting them......afterall, how much do 3000 funerals really cost?...

i understand...

Ahhhh, yes, it starts.

Dems aren't even in power yet and you have them down for 'not engaging' Hezbollah and letting them take over Lebanon.

If that's a big concern for you, well, why no mention of the actual administration that makes decisions like this?

What do you think would be a good action by us to try to save Lebanon?

Are you satisfied with amount of knowledge about that area that this administration has regarding the Middle East? Isn't that just BIT more important than some proposed committee leader?

Enemies? We have enemies, but not the Shia and Sunni's who are blowing each other up. We are mediating a civil war, no more and no less.

Unfortunately, this 'mediation' costs us thousands of lives and billions of dollars.

It looks like it's likely that we're going to send more troops over there, according to unconfirmed government 'reports.' (per FOX)

Send our whole goddamn military over there and the end result will be the same. Unbelieveable.

 

[JCDunkDogs]

Bush Thinking Over Iraq...That is one scary thought.

Well, you know how things are in WASP families around the holidays. George wants to discuss the elephant in the living room with Dad, but Dad's the wrong man to appeal to in terms of strength.

Everyone just ends up "thinking" quietly to themselves.

 

[StevieD]

That is one scary thought. .

Isn't he the same dope who thought us into this mess?:scared

 

[gardenweasel]

i understand the door swings both ways,my brotha`....as bad as the dems are, it wasn't a dem president who greenlighted the idea of 25,000 young saudi male wahabi exchange students coming to america to "study" in our schools.....and it wasn`t dems that fronted the ports security deal.....

we don`t totally disagree here...for once...

the issue,my friend,though,is "pelosi`s" pathetic lack of concern for the country`s welfare....and no one in the media has asked her why....

why highly qualified, bi-partisan, jane harman, who actually knows her business when it comes to the security of this country, was passed over for this know-nothing, reyes....

it`s obviously due todue to pelosi's petty personal grievances..not whether reyes knows that sunni`s wipe their asses with 3 rocks and the shi`a use 5......

and that`s very scary...

that`s right...reyes should be on a diversity committee, or something equally pointless....
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whereas you can argue that bush`s action in defense of the nation are an overreaction....her committment to the welfare of the nation is underwhelming.......she`s already violated her oath to preserve and defend america and she hasn`t even been sworn in yet.....

 

[kosar]

i understand the door swings both ways,my brotha`....as bad as the dems are, it wasn't a dem president who greenlighted the idea of 25,000 young saudi male wahabi exchange students coming to america to "study" in our schools.....and it wasn`t dems that fronted the ports security deal.....

we don`t totally disagree here...for once...

the issue,my friend,though,is "pelosi`s" pathetic lack of concern for the country`s welfare....and no one in the media has asked her why....

why highly qualified, bi-partisan, jane harman, who actually knows her business when it comes to the security of this country, was passed over for this know-nothing, reyes....

it`s obviously due todue to pelosi's petty personal grievances..not whether reyes knows that sunni`s wipe their asses with 3 rocks and the shi`a use 5......

and that`s very scary...

that`s right...reyes should be on a diversity committee, or something equally pointless....
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whereas you can argue that bush`s action in defense of the nation are an overreaction....her committment to the welfare of the nation is underwhelming.......she`s already violated her oath to preserve and defend america and she hasn`t even been sworn in yet.....

lol- i've never seen so much concern about who 'chairs' what committee. Jesus.

Yes, pelosi is not draining any swamps any time soon, and her support of Hastings, Murtha and to a lesser extent, Reyes, are curious.

I also agree that Pelosi has already gone the 'Delay way', paying back her favorites and/or rivals.

What's also curious, is how you're so worried about a potential committee chairman who doesn't know what sect Al-Qaeda is, but you have no such concerns about an admin that sold us (you) on an occupation while clearly not having the foggiest idea about the religious/historical machinations of the region that would have clearly shown them that civil war was inevitable.

Not that that would have stopped them from occupying, however. Just sayin'.

 

[gardenweasel]

well,when you take a stand...stake out a position....establish a foreign policy...whether it be because we suspected iraq of having or trying to procure wmds....or because it was saddam`s responsibility to prove he destroyed the wmd`s it was already proven he had, and legally bound by u.n.1441 and the ceasefire agreement from gulf war I to destroy them......which he was found to be in breach of for non cooperation with u.n. inspections as detailed by hans blix in feb. 2003....

whether you felt like he was the preeminent danger to the region.....to israel...the oil stability of the region.....whether it was because he was willing to burn the kuwaiti oil fields...or that the sanctions were as bogus as kofi annans ethics.....

whatever....smurphy throws churchill`s failures in my face when i mention his greatness....what does that prove?..that churchill wasn`t a great leader?.....

no..it means that war and conflict is never a given.. .there are problems...mistakes......it`s never a smooth undertaking....

was it a huge mistake?....maybe.....can we salvage the situation and keep the region from becoming an iranian stronghold of fundamentalism and jihad?.....lets hope so...at least I hope so....

do we want to abandon the new gov`t of iraq?....let the iranians broaden their sphere of influence in such a crucial region?.....

reinforce the belief that we will fold when the going gets tough.....again.....as we abandoned our allies in the viet nam conflict?....

abandon the gov`t and our allies in iraq to almost certain slaughter?.....

embolden the jihadis and give them the ultimate recruiting tool....victory over the great satan...

does anyone believe that if saddam were still in power that the iraqi`s wouldn`t be feverishly working to stay abreast with iran`s nuclear ambitions?....that israel and the world`s greatest oil reserves wouldn`t be in just as much jeopardy from 2 irrational nuclear despotic regimes instead of just one?...

we tried...the u.n. did nothing..when a united front could have cowed saddam/iran and n.korea...........now,n. korea and iran are emboldened... ...and now other islamic nations are discussing nuclear arsenals.... who`s gonna stop them?...the u.n.?....lol

doesn`t matter whether YOU think we`re at war with radical islam....doesn`t matter one whit....what`s important is that THEY`RE at war with YOU...and they make no bones about it....

this isn`t a black and white issue.....no matter how much you hate bush,iraq is only a piece of this puzzle...a crucial piece,certainly...but it`s much bigger than iraq....

it didn`t start with iraq...and it won`t end with iraq....

it didn`t start with bush....and it won`t end with bush(read osama`s death threats against clinton)...


and if you think that,unfortunately you have bush derangement syndrome....and also,unfortunately,there are no suitable meds available.....

 

[DOGS THAT BARK]

"it didn`t start with iraq...and it won`t end with iraq...."

True to the nth degree--

Been tuning into AFP Asian press for about dailey for about 6 years--and not one day goes by where Muslims aren't blowing up some one some where and NOBODY has had solution.--and I expect it to be same in Iraq and afgan or where we fight them next.

There are no short term solutions--bombers are next to impossible to stop.

The only approach to muslims is like killing flies --you keep killing em when they land to keep them from agravating you at the time but they are always waiting for you to open door so they can come back in.

For those that complain on the length of time on war -I got news--we WILL be fighting them "somewhere" for the next 20 years so get use to it--you can give up here and start anew somewhere else while bolstering their confidence or show them we can match them on fortitude now.

Only way to control them is to isolate them--and seems no one has stomach for that save maybe China who has had the fewest probs with those that are there.

 

[Spytheweb]

Bush has to give idea of controlling Iraqi oil

Bush has to give idea of controlling Iraqi oil

What Bush has to do is save face or save lives, which one will he go for? He has no problem with Americans dying, and he's already said a few weeks ago, we can not let them hold us hostage with oil. Israel is sweating it out too, they wanted the US to attack Iran and not pull out of Iraq. When the US leaves Iraq the puppet govornment they put in place will fold and Iraq will be annexed by Iran. At lease Saddam didn't like Israel, but did not care for Iran that much either. Now with Saddam gone Iran moves alittle closer to Israel, and they will get the BOMB. If Israel wants a war with Iran looks like they will have to fight it themselves. As for Bush he's in the same state of mind as Hitler, Hitler did know he was losing the war until 10 days before he committed suicide

 

[djv]

Over three years of thinking. And now thinking again. Asking questions. But admits if answers are not to his liking forget answers. And he wonders why the American people are so pissed off. And voted the way they did. I wold say Reb's are lucky were not voting for Pres in next 6 months. All there candidates could pack it in. I see even Rummy is now looking for who to blame other then him self. Guess who's name is starting to slip off his lips.