can anyone explain to me....

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why louisville called timeout on 3rd down and 5 a pitt. 15 with minute 30 or so to go????? do u think they wanted to make sure what the spread was?
afterall a cover send the boosters home happy..

pitt. with 2-timeouts left had shown their class and not called any of their timeouts...clearly throwing in the towel....game was lost...no use wasting time here....

louisville is supposed to take a knee 2 or 3 times after they had 1st and goal on the 5 yard line....pitt. had conceded the game...

yeah i know.....louisvile backers will say lou. outplayed pitt and shoulda covered...but the end of that game was some slimy/greasy bullshit....ive never seen a team up 15 with a minute to go take timeout...

getem tomorrow...gluck, burgh...
 

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I hear ya bud. I promise you this will come back to bite them in the ace.

You'll get it back this weekend. :thumb:
 

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If it was the NFL, they'd be kneeing, but with how NCAA is set up with the BCS - they gotta score as many points as possible......that's the only thing I can think of.....

tough to be on Pitt's side after the conclusion to this one. That was the most garbage of garbage touchdowns. GL this weekend
 

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BCS, this team has nothing to do with the BCS this year. I understand running up the score like Geno was saying for the boosters. But this team will probably never see a BCS game, at least not this year. BCS sucks and they need a playoff system.
 

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louisville wasnt good enough to cover when the game was being contested. but once pitt conceded the game, cards punch one in. pretty sad. oh well. chalkeaters rewarded for one night.
 

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i hear ya counting guy....regardless of what side i had in this game..ive just never seen more blatant spread-covering tactics used....im mean that timeout was just amazing to me? and i dont think either announcer questioned it....in that sopt of the game pitt hadf given up and louisville is clearly running the ball to move the clock and end the game...what was the purpose of the time out? was his running backs tired from picking up 5 yards a carry consecutively?

that was just ugly...
 

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been waging for a while...seen this a lot!...you have to wonder sometimes...just lucky to be on the Cards tonight!
 

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yea you had the right side sometimes they don't cover

your solid so you get back easy

and I agree with everything you said
 

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I know ur pissed Steel, but use it to ur advantage on the next home games for louisville, they have been avg winning by like 40 pts at home. That is the only reason I played louisville today was looking at that running the score up, kinda reminded me of the florida teams from a few yrs back.

GL This weekend buddy:)
 

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unrelated story, but interesting to the fact of shakey crap!

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BOOKMAKERS HANG DARK CLOUD OVER MAC GAMES, ESPECIALLY TOLEDO?
While bookmakers have no evidence of wrong doing they are still focusing a tremendous amount of attention to what they say are strange betting patterns in the Mid-American Conference, especially those involving Toledo.
Bookmakers say there has been a tremendous amount of line manipulation in the MAC this season and they point to two Saturday games as examples of that. Toledo opened a -10 road favorite at Central Michigan and has been bet down to -7?. In a second game they are watching, Western Michigan opened a -4 home favorite over Kent State and has been bet out to -7.
Pointspread shifts such as this are not uncommon but bookmakers say it is happening too often on MAC games and they have the evidence to prove it, as they have been hit hard by ?middle? bettors. For those not familiar with the term, a ?middle? bettor is one who bets both sides in the same game, laying different prices and then hoping the game falls between that which he gave and that which he took. When that happens he collects both bets.
For instance, if the Toledo-Central Michigan final score falls on an 8 or 9-point difference middle bettors will win on both sides. If the Kent State-Western Michigan falls on a 5 or a 6, they will also collect both bets.
Bookmakers have already been stung twice this season with Toledo?first in the Rockets game at Temple on September 17 and again on their game at Ball State two weeks ago.
In the Temple game, Toledo opened a 30-point favorite and was bet down to -24?. The final score was 42-17, which meant the Rockets won by 25 and the game fell in the middle. This game costs bookmakers tens of thousands of dollars.
In the Ball State game, Toledo opened -19? and was bet out to -23?. The Rockets won that on by 20 points, 34-14, again putting the game in the middle and cost bookmakers another small fortune.

ODDS AGAINST SAME TEAM PRODUCING MULTIPLE
MIDDLES ASTRONOMICAL?
Bookmakers say the odds of one team producing two middle winners during a single season are astronomical and the heavy two-way action on both games was traced to a small group of individuals, all of whom knew one another.
"We may look stupid, but we're not," said one bookmaker from Antigua, "And we will get to the bottom of this."
The mechanics of middle betting tell the entire story, since a middle gives a player 20-1 for his money in a world where most bets return even money on a winning wager. Here is how the middle works, using the Temple-Toledo game as an example.
Bettors would take Temple +30 and then bet in a manner that gave the appearance of continued action on the underdog. When they felt their actions had driven the number as far as it would go, they would step in and bet Toledo -24 ?.
The math is simple: If a person bet $110,000 to win $100,000 on Temple +30 and then made a similar bet on Toledo -24 ?, he is risking just $10,000 to win $200,000 because it is impossible to lose both bets. If the game falls in the middle of the +30 and the -24 ?, he collects $200,000, or gets 20-1 for his money.
Bookmakers have their own crew of investigators studying every aspect of any game with a suspicious betting pattern; from who officiated the games to how touchdowns were scored and if there were bogus penalties or turnovers at key points of the game.
We will keep you informed, but in the meantime, this is one handicapper who is staying away from MAC games. It is an understatement in the world of sports betting to say rather safe than sorry.
 

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vinnie said:
yea you had the right side sometimes they don't cover

you realize thats blasphemy around here, right vinnie? i mean, the team who covers is always the right side :mj07: even if theyre handed a touchdown on the opening kickoff and if they punch in a touchdown with 0:40 to go up by 2 scores. better watch your words around here vinnie. they're coming for you.
 

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I didnt realize it was Louisville that called that time out, I had the sound off and was flipping channels, but I probably would have popped a gasket. I was pissed at the gutless Pitts defense who could not stop the obvious run over and over and over. On that drive it seemed Louisville was begging Pitts to stop them, but they just flat out refused. How many third down conversions did Louisville make on that drive?
 

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WAS or WAS NOT Pit trying to score at the end of the game?? TO DAMN BAD they fumbled! I don't think you guys would be cursing the "BIG NOSE" fawker if Pit would have scored a "MEANINLESS" TD to end the game would you??

BIG LOU was NEVER in doubt!
 

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I just checked, Pitt converted 3 3rd downs on the drive, all with runs.

Pitts D allowed a 16 Play drive in which Louisville RAN THE BALL 15 TIMES IN A ROW!

Gutless.
 

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The friggen safety on Pitt was ultimately the stake in the heart.
Take away the safeyy and I get a win instead of a heartbreaking gutless no class loss.

Maggio
 

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Exactly right skillrules. Pitt should of stopped them when they just kept running. This stuff happens alot I played 2 dogs this past weekend where the fav was just running out the clock and scored. Although calling a timeout was pretty low and Wanny gave the quick handshake at the end of the game. Gman what is wrong with you? Why do you always come off like you are smartest handicapper on the planet and all the rest are beneath you? You know what I used to like to read your write ups before you went pro but now it just seems to me your writeups are just to make you look smarter or you like to hear yourself. Oh wait here comes the I thought this was a handicapping forum. Get over yourself.

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