Can somebody please explain..DENVER - 4?

[crdshrk007]

Ok. I know if it sounds to good to be true story.
But what am I missing guys? :shrug:



Denver in a must win game to keep from skidding into 2nd place, washington... well washington is just plain washington, god awefull:mj07:



I really thought this line should be 7 1/2 ora little higher

 

[Jord20]

I think Washington wins outright. Denver is a mediocre team traveling across country on ashort week after a devastating performance. Listen, Kyle Orton is NOT a good quarterback. They can't move the ball. Their D is ok, but not world beaters. I was never fooled by this team. They got lucky in the cinncy game, and they were VERY fortunate against Dallas and NE. The ball was bouncing their way. They got POUNDED by 2 decent teams in a row. This is the real Denver. The public is going to be all over Denver only laying 3.5 to this pathetic Washington team. Not me :nono: I will grab the points and the ML. Washington showed some signs of life at the end of the ATL game, and I think it carries over in this spot.

Sign me up for the Skins!

 

[Pound4Pound#1]

:iagree:

 

[Irish]

OK I have been here before, you say "Denver is a mediocre". Yes I agree but what you don't see is where this game will be won..... DEFENSE. Washington has a hot dog vendor at LT. Dumerville will have 3 sacks himself in this game and that means Denver will get at least one fumble recovery. The redskins offense will get a huge boost from Betts because Portis is done but where will the holes be, remember o-line injuries means no holes. Don't forget Jason Campbell got beat up last week, that type of shelling just doesn't fade away, he will be a little shell shocked back there. No Cooley, Moss is a mid level reciever at best Champ Baily and Ty Law will shut down any WR threat the skins have and not to mention who knows more about how to beat the skins then Brian Dawkins!! Denver may be mediocre but even that can beat the redskins. Orton can take three step drops and hit Royal and Marshall all day and let them make HUGE plays in space because Washington can't tackle in the secondary. Horton is also out so they lose deep coverage speed. There are 5-8 players on washington that even care anymore... and most if not all of them are on the D-line, plus Orakpo and Fletcher. Denver needs this game, Washington has for the most part packed it in. I'll wait to play it but on Suday more than likely take Denver for the game... they will be up close to 17 by half and then take redskins in the second half after poor washington play in the first puts Denver to sleep and washington sneaks in a few points. Don't forget Champ has a ton to play for, Royal has a ton to play for and after losing two games straight Denver will be twice as hungry as Washington.

If the skins win GREAT, I am afterall a skins fan... but I never bet with my heart and Washington is a team in shambles... every pointing fingers and the crowd holding up the middle one at the owner!

Cheers
Irish

 

[Senor Capper]

ahh hmm lets see....

This is a tough schedule spot for Broncos as this is their 2nd East Coast game in 3 Wks, are off tough game & short week vs PIT & have SD on deck. :shrug:
Making matters worse is the fact that Denver is just 6-13 SU and 4-15 ATS in games before SD, including 2-10 SU and ATS in nondivision games.

Skins on the otherhand are an eye-popping 11-3 SU and 12-1-1 ATS as non-division home dogs with a losing record from Game Eight out.

Do remember that the Skins are without Cooley and quite possible Portis :scared


I'm opposite some of you as the Broncos are healthier, have much better depth, a much more stable coaching situation.
They should put away the Redskins easily. :toast:

but I'm not really interested :nono:

 

[BigGaycapper]

This game might just very well end up in the "expect the unexpected " thread this week. Portis out is a blessing for the Redskins, Betts will finally get a shot and make it easier for the Redskins to deal Portis in the off season.

 

[USCMD]

Den has stumbled two weeks in a row, true. But lets not forget they have wins over NE, SD, Dal, and Cin. Teams that will either play in the post season or come close. Was has beaten the juggernauts from SL and TB. As they say on espn Mon nights, "come on man!"


I don't see Den as a mediocre team, lord knows the league is full of those. Pit is a champion, and imho they out-schemed Den......doing a great job keeping Den off balance.

Wash, on the other hand is a group full of high priced talent, that has never truly meshed as a team.

A few other items of import:

ats record Den 6-2, Was 1-6-1. Was sole ats win, week 5, by 2 points against a Car team that was getting embarrassed weekly.

Line off, Den +33, Was -46.

giveaway/takeaway Den +5 was -8

I think Den wins this game comfortably. Was injuries have been mentioned but it goes beyond cooley and portis. Guys that are secure in their jobs, have little to gain by rushing back. Wash is a dead team walking.

Den or pass for me. Bol 2 all ! :toast:


Washington Redskins

Jason Campbell QB Prob Sun - Ankle - 11/10/09 notes 0-0 0-0
Reed Doughty S Prob Sun - Knee - 11/09/09 notes 0-0 0-0
Ladell Betts RB Ques Sun - Ankle - 11/10/09 notes 0-0 0-0
Byron Westbrook CB Ques Sun - Knee - 11/09/09 notes 0-1 1-0
Hunter Smith P Doub Sun - Groin - 11/09/09 notes 0-1 1-0
Clinton Portis RB Doub Sun - Concussion - 11/09/09 notes 0-0 0-0
Mike Williams T Out indefinitely - Ankle - 11/10/09 notes 0-0 0-0
Chris Horton S Out indefinitely - Toe - 11/10/09 notes 0-0 0-0
Chris Cooley TE Out indefinitely - Ankle - 10/27/09 notes 0-1 1-0
Chris Samuels T out for season - Neck - 10/11/09 notes 0-3 2-1
Randy Thomas G I-R - Tricep - 09/21/09 notes 1-5 2-4
Colton Brennan QB I-R - Hamstring - 09/05/09 notes 1-6-1 3-5
*ATS & O/U represent team records fo

 

[canuckfan77]

:iagree:

 

[Pound4Pound#1]

ahh hmm lets see....

This is a tough schedule spot for Broncos as this is their 2nd East Coast game in 3 Wks, are off tough game & short week vs PIT & have SD on deck. :shrug:
Making matters worse is the fact that Denver is just 6-13 SU and 4-15 ATS in games before SD, including 2-10 SU and ATS in nondivision games.

Skins on the otherhand are an eye-popping 11-3 SU and 12-1-1 ATS as non-division home dogs with a losing record from Game Eight out.

Do remember that the Skins are without Cooley and quite possible Portis :scared


I'm opposite some of you as the Broncos are healthier, have much better depth, a much more stable coaching situation.
They should put away the Redskins easily. :toast:

but I'm not really interested :nono:

I love when Senor chimes in with these wonderful trends!! :00hour

You too BIG GAY. If you ever need a POUNDIN' let me know! :mj07: :mj07: :mj07:

 

[Senor Capper]

:mj07: :142smilie :mj07:


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3.5s now :scared

 

[LDB]

I kinda like wash here, but not strong enough to make it a play

 

[jr11]

I guess the question how many times do we have to learn about putting good $ on bad teams? Washington might be the play, but for everyone one you win you lose many more. Tough to back a team that is in total disarray, however this is a tough spot for Denver off back to back losses to physical teams in Balt/Pit and SD on deck. Traditionally, Wash would fall into a play for me, but I just can't do it.

Good luck.

jr11

 

[Destructor D]

Normally I'd say take the home dog in this spot. However, Washington is 2-6 ATS and they looked so bad in 1st halves vs. Philly & Atlanta in back-to-back weeks. Deadskins are -8 in turnover margin and I'm sure Dumerville is good for one strip of Campbell and Champ is probably good for an INT.

Donkeys are 6-2 ATS although both losses recent plus playing Ravens and Steelers in back-to-back is brutal. Short week, traveling out East from Mountain time zone. Orton is showing his true colors... game is screaming Under if you ask me. Could be a 13-10 type of game.

However, I still take the Broncos or nothing in this spot and buy the hook if necessary. Figured the number would be closer to a TD as well and was shocked to see 3.5.