Canadians open arms to Americans

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WHY MOVE TO CANADA?
Reasons to move to Canada, as cited by www.canadianalternative.com:

1. Canada has universal public health care.

2. Canada has no troops in Iraq.

3. Canada signed the Kyoto Protocol environmental treaty.

4. More than half of Canada's provinces allow same-sex marriage.

5. The Canadian Senate recommends legalizing marijuana.

6. Canada has no law restricting abortion.

7. Canada has strict gun laws and relatively little violence.

8. The United Nations has ranked Canada the best country to live in for eight consecutive years.

9. Canada abolished the death penalty in 1976.

10. Canada has not run a federal deficit since 1996-97.


Source: The Associated Press


SEATTLE, Washington (AP) -- Rudi Kischer wants to help those Americans who have the post-election blues after U.S. President George W. Bush's second-term victory.

The Vancouver, British Columbia, immigration lawyer plans seminars in three U.S. cities -- Seattle, San Francisco and Los Angeles -- to tell Americans frustrated with Bush's re-election that the grass is greener north of the border.

And that's not just an allusion to Canada's lenient marijuana laws.

"We started last year getting a lot of calls from Americans dissatisfied with the way the country is going," Kischer says. "Then after the election, it's been crazy up here. The Canadian immigration Web site had 115,000 hits the day after the election -- from the U.S. alone. We usually only get 20,000 hits."

There was so much interest that a Vancouver-based Internet company, Communicopia, set up a new Web site this month -- www.canadianalternative.com -- to suggest Canada as a viable option for its American clients, including anyone concerned about constitutional bans on gay marriage passed in 11 U.S. states this month.

"We invite you to get to know Canada," the site says. "Explore the richness and diversity of our regions. And find out why Canada is the perfect alternative for conscientious, forward-thinking Americans."

Another Web site urges Canadians: "Open your heart, and your home. Marry an American. Legions of Canadians have already pledged to sacrifice their singlehood to save our southern neighbours from four more years of cowboy conservatism."

Canada suddenly has utopian appeal for many left-leaning Americans. Its universal health care, gay rights, abortion rights, gun-control laws, drug laws, opposition to the Iraq war, ban on capital punishment and ethnic diversity mirror many values of the American left.

Immigrants, including an estimated 1 million Americans, make up nearly 20 percent of Canada's population. The United Nations named Toronto the world's most multicultural city.

And, as Michael Moore pointed out in "Bowling for Columbine" -- required viewing for many lefties -- in Canada there's apparently no reason to lock your door.

On the other hand, it's cold. The baseball's not very good -- so long, Expos. And the taxes are higher, eh?

But, as one American who has his bags nearly packed likes to say, at least the taxes go toward good causes.

"I just like their way of life a lot better, and with everything the Bush administration has done -- for the American people to give him their seal of approval, it's basically the last straw," says Ralph Appoldt, a resident of Portland, in Oregon, a state that narrowly supported Democrat John Kerry for president.

"Canada's basic population is much more intelligent, polite and civilized,"Appoldt said. "I like their way of government a lot better. Their tax dollars go to helping those who need it, instead of funneling money back up to the wealthy and feeding this huge military-industrial machine."

Appoldt, 50, a sales manager, and his wife, a nurse, figure that selling their house and getting their immigration approved could take more than a year. But they're moving, they insist. They've already hired Kischer to help them.

Though he may see a good business opportunity following the election, Kischer has no illusions of a mass American exodus to Canada.

Americans have to follow the same procedures as everybody else -- including the $500 (387 euro) application fee, the $975 (755 euro) landing tax, and the wait of six months to two years.

He only expects about 100 people at each of the how-to-move-to-Canada seminars, all scheduled in Democratic-leaning areas -- December 4 in Seattle, December 5 in Los Angeles and December 6 in San Francisco.

Nancy Bray, a spokeswoman for Citizenship and Immigration Canada, said her agency's Web site received 261,000 hits from the United States in the two days following the election, but it'll be many months before officials can guess how many of them were serious.

"Our interest, our goal, is to attract the best possible immigrants," Bray says. "If there's a lot of publicity about our country, that's to our benefit. But we're not interested in people's political leanings or political dissatisfaction."

Jason Mogus, Communicopia's chief executive, said that while his company wanted to help interested Americans, moving to Canada should be plan B.

"We strongly encourage Americans to stay and build a culture in line with their values," Mogus said. "In other words, stay and fight."
 

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Fuk let them go there, I have been there 5 times and found it just like where I am from back east for the most part. My first wife was from Toronto. And number 7 is a great point I loved about the country. I am sure though Canada does'nt want the narrow minded who would move there or lets say about 65% of the narrow minded people or people who think it is my way or no-way. They would get people who think it can only be one side or the other(no middle ground) for the most part (IMO) and don't think those are the people the very nice country of Canada wants.

I love the US but would have no problem living in Canada and number 7 is a big selling point for me .Also great fishing:D It would be in my top 4 spots if I choose to move out of US. #1 would be Bahamas, 2 Canada, 3 Australia 4 Aruba.
 

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Bahamas, Aruba, San Juan and Hamilton, Bermuda all semi tropix with pristine seas, beautiful women and legal gambling. It's a thought.
Canada, I read somewhere there are "emigration seminars" in the nations larger cities, the only reason for leaving would be a fear of government or attax. why don't they just move to Milwaukee or Cleveland
 

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I'll bet there's little violence up there because there's almost no minorities, it's too cold. It's all whites up there. Sweden, Norway, Finland? Iceland?....I wonder what the crime rates are in those nations?


Enjoy Canada!! Just what I'd want to do, live with a bunch of French pusssies lol. No thanks.
Move up there and enjoy yourself while you get the lilving genitals taxed off of you.

And after all that you still can't own your own gun? That's pathetic. Is that a law there?
 

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"I'll bet there's little violence up there because there's almost no minorities, it's too cold. It's all whites up there."


your utter ignorance is completely astounding!!!

:)
 

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How is that ignorant? Don't blame me, the numbers speak for themselves..........Here's an example.....

Let's compare a city that is predominantly minority to a city that is predominantly white.

Washington DC 1998........69.3 Murders per 100,000 people
Brussels, Belgium 1998........0.4 Murders per 100.000 people

That means that Washington DC is about 170 times more dangerous than an average international anglo city, such as Brussels.

Try Oslo, or Melbourne, or Coppenhagen, or Calgary.....same results.

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The following are factual stats, since you provided none. Don't blame me for the results ok??

Over 1,300,000 million white Americans were murdered, robbed, assaulted or raped by minorites in last year, compared with about 91,000 minorities who were murdered, robbed, assaulted or raped by whites.

Minorities thus commited about 11 times more inter-racial crimes than whites even though the minority population is only one-sixth the size of the white population.

When these figures are adjusted on a per capita basis, they reveal an extraordinary disparity: Minorities are committing more than 50 times the violent racial crimes of whites.
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I guess you're right though Chrryblaster, it's just a coincidence and I'm ignorant.
 
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Pujo21

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Charles can you do me a favor,? please!

Where does ATLANTA rank also in this ?
:142lmao:

Atlanta must be pretty ugly ! One would think !
As a matter of fact i am sure..but i would like to know the comparable stats. :)
 

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CHARLESMANSON said:
I'll bet there's little violence up there because there's almost no minorities, it's too cold.

Chuck,

I guess you have never been to the western part of Canada...
 

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hey you guys...you forgot #11......

NO TAX on gambling winnings....ya win 10 million in the lottery..YOU GET TEN MILLION!!.....ya win 5 grand on a slot machine....you get 5 grand!!
 
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