Cardinals @ Giants Thursday Game 5

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Already seen this line climb from -125 to -136 in a few hours. Realize Giants have super momentum and taking it back is difficult, but if STL can win this game and take it home, they have a shot with Lynn in game 6 and then anything can happen in a game 7.

Kind of wonder if the public realizes Bumgarner has struggled at home this season and his numbers have been excellent on the road... Wainwright coming off a poor performance by his standards, but have to think he pitches well in this spot and this line could be -150 by 1st pitch at this rate. Bumgarner 11-4 with 2.22 ERA on the road during regular season plus 2 dominating performances this post season with shutout ball vs. Pirates and Cardinals. However, at home he's 7-6 with a 4.03 ERA and 0-1 this post season with loss vs. Nationals.

Cards look like a live dog to me, especially at +135 or higher which is where I expect this to land by 1st pitch... other thoughts:shrug: I have enjoyed a stellar 17-7 post season playing every game ATS without posting most, but have to admit I'm 7-1 on Royals games is the main reason for the nice record (took A's against Royals 1st game and was happy to have lost!). Haven't posted since my time is limited and the fact baseball in the post season is such a crap shoot and odds are tight. Royals have the best bullpen I've seen in a post season since at least the Wetteland/Rivera combo in the late 90's for the Yankees with regards to Davis/Holland & Herrera is lights out as 6th/7th inning guy tossing 99/100 consistently. The Royals bats still are questionable, but they hit on the road and pitching wins. Ask the 2010/2012 Giants who didn't have many bats and won. Shutdown bullpens are tough because starters give you 4 or 5 innings and then they just flat out shut you down like KC has done this entire post season. Hope this continues, but admit I'm worried after the Royals have won 8 in a row.

I do know KC swept SF this season 3 games at home and beat Cardinals 3 of 4 with 2 games at each city. Think KC will have confidence vs. either.

Looking at Cards strongly tomorrow. Bum coming off a gem and coming back home where he struggles. Just my $.02 as I could see a public bloodbath.

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hammer1

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Here's my take

Here's my take

Got in ta this business when a local "made man" told me to bet on Tommy John a the Yankees fer a $100 as a repayment for all the winning horses i had given him....Well ole Tom won . And in 1983 i started on the Orioles and White Sox win streaks 24 -2 26 -2 in August if i recall..

Began with $100 plays and had $2000 on Oroles over Phils and Steve Carlton.......Big Coin back then

Next year Think Tigers went something like 35 - 1 and cubs 0 - 20. The rest of my life was sealed........

Lesson for me was never ever try and out guess a streak winning or losing Eventually i broke my book and later when asked at a drinking est what happened he said "I got Hit By The "Hammer"...hence yours truly was born......



Already seen this line climb from -125 to -136 in a few hours. Realize Giants have super momentum and taking it back is difficult, but if STL can win this game and take it home, they have a shot with Lynn in game 6 and then anything can happen in a game 7.

Kind of wonder if the public realizes Bumgarner has struggled at home this season and his numbers have been excellent on the road... Wainwright coming off a poor performance by his standards, but have to think he pitches well in this spot and this line could be -150 by 1st pitch at this rate. Bumgarner 11-4 with 2.22 ERA on the road during regular season plus 2 dominating performances this post season with shutout ball vs. Pirates and Cardinals. However, at home he's 7-6 with a 4.03 ERA and 0-1 this post season with loss vs. Nationals.

Cards look like a live dog to me, especially at +135 or higher which is where I expect this to land by 1st pitch... other thoughts:shrug: I have enjoyed a stellar 17-7 post season playing every game ATS without posting most, but have to admit I'm 7-1 on Royals games is the main reason for the nice record (took A's against Royals 1st game and was happy to have lost!). Haven't posted since my time is limited and the fact baseball in the post season is such a crap shoot and odds are tight. Royals have the best bullpen I've seen in a post season since at least the Wetteland/Rivera combo in the late 90's for the Yankees with regards to Davis/Holland & Herrera is lights out as 6th/7th inning guy tossing 99/100 consistently. The Royals bats still are questionable, but they hit on the road and pitching wins. Ask the 2010/2012 Giants who didn't have many bats and won. Shutdown bullpens are tough because starters give you 4 or 5 innings and then they just flat out shut you down like KC has done this entire post season. Hope this continues, but admit I'm worried after the Royals have won 8 in a row.

I do know KC swept SF this season 3 games at home and beat Cardinals 3 of 4 with 2 games at each city. Think KC will have confidence vs. either.

Looking at Cards strongly tomorrow. Bum coming off a gem and coming back home where he struggles. Just my $.02 as I could see a public bloodbath.

GLTA
 

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Cardinals +135 for 10* - Line could go higher, but I'm fine with this number. Wainwright was -130ish in the opener and feel public overreaction. Think this series goes back to St. Louis and like the fact both dogs covered last night.

Also, I was on the Giants every game this series until now. Just a feeling Cards win a 3-2 type of game.

GLTA
 

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I tend to agree Cardinals pull it out, if they can field the baseball!
Regarding Bumgarner's home performance, I think he is fine pitching in SF. I just think some of his poorer starts of the year were coincidentally home games. At the risk of cherry picking stats, his last 4 home starts of the year he gave up only 2ER over something like 28-30innings.

He has generally been pitching quite well the past month or two.

Wainwright needs to shut the Giants down.
 

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Wainwright has dead arm. They are done.

I tend to agree Cardinals pull it out, if they can field the baseball!
Regarding Bumgarner's home performance, I think he is fine pitching in SF. I just think some of his poorer starts of the year were coincidentally home games. At the risk of cherry picking stats, his last 4 home starts of the year he gave up only 2ER over something like 28-30innings.

He has generally been pitching quite well the past month or two.

Wainwright needs to shut the Giants down.
 
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