Charlie Weis in the 3rd of a 5 yr contract gets the boot by the AD from Kansas.
Brady Hoke has meeting set up with AD tomorrow!
Brady Hoke has meeting set up with AD tomorrow!
Charlie Weis buh bye!!
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Rumor was Weis caught sleeping during a meeting a month ago. When KU beat Central Michigan, he barely joined with the team to celebrate after the game. Finally he's done as a coach and can always show the Super Bowl rings Bellichek & Brady won him during their run from 2001-2004 with 3 Super Bowl wins in 4 years. KU made another terrible hire after the Turner Gill debacle and should have hired Dave Doeren, current coach at NC State and they actually were considering Jim Harbaugh after Mangino which he wouldn't have stayed long, but the point they even talked to him seriously. KU is now 2-41 in their last 43 conference games with a win over Colorado after being behind by 5 TD's in 2011 and another win over West Virginia in 2013. Maybe firing Mangino was the worst move after this program went 12-1 and won the Orange Bowl in 2007 and won a bowl game in 2008.
Not sure I have ever seen a program fall apart like KU ever... they never were good, but 2007 will forever be a distant memory.
Not sure I have ever seen a program fall apart like KU ever... they never were good, but 2007 will forever be a distant memory.
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Gill was 5-19 overall and 1-16 in conference at Kansas. Weis was 6-22 overall and 1-18 in conference. Gill has moved on to Liberty where he has a 16-8 record in 2+ seasons, 9-2 in conference (that's just against FCS competition, he has 3 additional losses in guaranteed game). It's like Gill remembered how to coach once he left Lawrence.
Point is that there is more wrong at Kansas than who has been holding the clipboard. The Athletic Dept has been a mess and the ability to rebuild a football program has been affected by that. Yeah Mangino and '07 are great memories, but he left the program in much worst shape than his last season's record of 5-7 (1-7) would indicated. And KU hasn't had the ability of foresight to figure out how to get out from that wreckage.
I havent seen a guy get paid more to do less as much as he has! 7 mil left on his deal.......what did ND buy him out at.....16 mil......just incredible!
MrP & Destructor make good points about KU program. Problem is here that KU only cares about their big money maker which is not football, it's hoops!!
T Gill didn't get an opportunity to make an impact and the Admin expected way too much from him, he did well at BU and he's done it again at Liberty. He's a devout religious guy and he would have been a very good CFL QB or professional baseball player. He used to date the former AD at Creighton, Offenberger's daughter years back.
Kansas would be better off hiring someone that they will give time to build the program with. The state is a hot bed of JUCO teams and some good HS athletes, even in the smaller HS programs that don't play traditional 11 on 11 football.
KU hasn't been anygood since the days of David Jaynes!! :142smilie
For them to do any improvement, they need to get rid of the current AD and re-assemble their Admin. Lawrence is a tight community with a strong alumni base, the problem is, the base is more up on hoops than any other sport and always will be until this team finishes in the Top 25. It would take someone like a Charlie Strong, Urban Meyer or James Franklin to turn this program around but the admin won't hire anyone with those type of credentials, so they best start looking at the smaller college level, like a Chip Kelly, Jonesy at UT and Mizzou's HC all came from, which were small schools, Grand Valley State in Michigan is one school Jonesy came from and Chip started out in the New England area. Franklin was at small schools too before becoming a coordinator and helped Maryland while Fridgenator was there.
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T Gill didn't get an opportunity to make an impact and the Admin expected way too much from him, he did well at BU and he's done it again at Liberty. He's a devout religious guy and he would have been a very good CFL QB or professional baseball player. He used to date the former AD at Creighton, Offenberger's daughter years back.
Kansas would be better off hiring someone that they will give time to build the program with. The state is a hot bed of JUCO teams and some good HS athletes, even in the smaller HS programs that don't play traditional 11 on 11 football.
KU hasn't been anygood since the days of David Jaynes!! :142smilie
For them to do any improvement, they need to get rid of the current AD and re-assemble their Admin. Lawrence is a tight community with a strong alumni base, the problem is, the base is more up on hoops than any other sport and always will be until this team finishes in the Top 25. It would take someone like a Charlie Strong, Urban Meyer or James Franklin to turn this program around but the admin won't hire anyone with those type of credentials, so they best start looking at the smaller college level, like a Chip Kelly, Jonesy at UT and Mizzou's HC all came from, which were small schools, Grand Valley State in Michigan is one school Jonesy came from and Chip started out in the New England area. Franklin was at small schools too before becoming a coordinator and helped Maryland while Fridgenator was there.
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I honestly don't know about the current guy Zenger but Perkins was terrible. Only reason basketball has done well is that they have had one of the top coaches in the country in place. And I guess if the 'Turner Gill debacle' references the friendly contract he got, I can't disagree with that. You mentioned 'time' and that is key. If you aren't one of the handful of premier schools that can almost recruit for themselves, its not going to be a flip of the switch fix. Who knows if Gill or Weiss would have ever had success at Kansas if given more time, but continually pulling the plug every 2+ years on a guy isn't going to solve it. Future potential coaches are now going to be weary. You have to realize who you and so be it if you end up being a stepping stone for an up and coming coach as opposed to a destination job. You have to crawl before you can walk (or dream of running such as KU 2007).
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Seems to me Kansas got what they deserved hiring the arrogant Weiss to begin with but I agree when making a coaching decision they generally need more than 2 yrs..The guy at Colo St would be a excellent hire but doubt if he would come...
