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Make an average of 70k to work 9 months a year (which they should) and are pissing and moaning about being subject to an evaluation system!

What other job are you paid that income and not subject to some sort of system to evaluate performance? That's a dream job...good salary for 9 months a year and no accountability whatsoever!
 

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My mom taught inner city 6th and 7th grade for 38 years. I'm pro-teacher.

In this case though the teachers and their union are absurd.
 

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9 MONTHS WORK SHOULD GET YOU 9 MONTHS PAY, 70 GRAND IS ABSURD FOR A TEACHER
 

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My mom taught inner city 6th and 7th grade for 38 years. I'm pro-teacher.

In this case though the teachers and their union are absurd.



Too many teachers get transfixed on the Union Rhetoric of Victimization rather than focusing on their prime objective TEACHING!

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9 MONTHS WORK SHOULD GET YOU 9 MONTHS PAY, 70 GRAND IS ABSURD FOR A TEACHER

seriously???

you have a couple kids starting school soon and make that comment?

I do not have kids but the bus picks up and drops off right outside my house everyday and just watching these kids with absolutely no respect for authority, other peoples property and even their own parents ... teachers get my utmost respect :0074

seriously man, think sometimes before you start typing :nono:
 
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The issue isn't a salary issue, for the conditions they deal with in Chicago they deserve that. My mother had death threats multiple times over the years and it came from kids with the capability to follow through.

It's the other demands I'm finding a bit ridiculous. They want zero accountability for their performance.
 

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The issue isn't a salary issue, for the conditions they deal with in Chicago they deserve that. My mother had death threats multiple times over the years and it came from kids with the capability to follow through.

It's the other demands I'm finding a bit ridiculous. They want zero accountability for their performance.

Nuff Said
 

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seriously???

you have a couple kids starting school soon and make that comment?

I do not have kids but the bus picks up and drops off right outside my house everyday and just watching these kids with absolutely no respect for authority, other peoples property and even their own parents ... teachers get my utmost respect :0074

seriously man, think sometimes before you start typing :nono:

I have the upmost respect for teachers as well but 70k for a grade school teacher is way the hell out of line. Hell some College Professor's dont get paid near that. Why the hell are they striking? They are striking gold with there paychecks!

:scared
 

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I have the upmost respect for teachers as well but 70k for a grade school teacher is way the hell out of line. Hell some College Professor's dont get paid near that. Why the hell are they striking? They are striking gold with there paychecks!

:scared

Envy is one of the seven deadly sins. FYI.
 

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I have the upmost respect for teachers as well but 70k for a grade school teacher is way the hell out of line. Hell some College Professor's dont get paid near that. Why the hell are they striking? They are striking gold with there paychecks!

:scared

College professors have it a lot easier than grade school teachers, so that argument doesn't fly.

I don't agree with teachers striking though.
 

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College professors have it a lot easier than grade school teachers, so that argument doesn't fly.

I don't agree with teachers striking though.

So you are saying a 5th grade teacher should get paid more because it is harder to teach in that enviroment? I believe a fifth grade teacher is lower in the hierarchy of teaching versus a college professer last time I checked. I guess you should start as a college professor and work your way down to first grade.
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I don't agree with teachers striking though.

What the hell are they supposed to do?

I haven't looked into this at all because I really don't care. But if you feel you aren't getting what you want, you strike. It's the only leverage they have.
 

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This is a FB post by a friend of mine who teaches in WI.. Some of what he writes maybe why the teachers don't want to be evaluated in a certain light. At any rate it was the best post on FB to date.

Ed:

Well teaching is back in the news. A lot of opinions about education. Weird. I know nothing about medicine, law enforcement, fighting fires, or plowing streets. However, it seems most people know everything about my job. Anyway, what I want people to know (especially Romney and Obama who both don't have a clue about teaching) is that the scariest thing on the horizon for all educators is merit pay based on standardized tests. NOT BECAUSE WE ARE LAZY OR INCOMPETENT. I plan my lessons/units around the curriculum that is based on the state standards written by the brightest minds in the state. I link them to reading, writing, and math whenever possible. I plan them to highlight or showcase a students strengths like working with others or applying artistic abilities (just as an example). I incorporate a way to challenge their weaknesses not to humiliate them but for growth. I use humor as an attempt to entertain, I tie in technology to make it more relevant, and evaluate on the skills that have been identified by employers as necessary for a job in the 21st century. I always try to differentiate my lessons so that I hit four or five intelligences and at least two of the learning styles/modalities. But I still can't "make" a child recall information at such a success rate that they fill in all the right bubbles on a scantron sheet once a year. Even if my means of living depended on it.

This is what I strive to do everyday. It took years to get my lessons to this point and I'm still learning from my colleagues (that share because were are partners instead of competitors that want to steal your piece of the public school dollars pie). I promise to keep on learning. Redo everything I've built if another/better way comes along. It's called being a professional. Today's teachers are pretty good at it.
 

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This is a FB post by a friend of mine who teaches in WI.. Some of what he writes maybe why the teachers don't want to be evaluated in a certain light. At any rate it was the best post on FB to date.

Ed:

Well teaching is back in the news. A lot of opinions about education. Weird. I know nothing about medicine, law enforcement, fighting fires, or plowing streets. However, it seems most people know everything about my job. Anyway, what I want people to know (especially Romney and Obama who both don't have a clue about teaching) is that the scariest thing on the horizon for all educators is merit pay based on standardized tests. NOT BECAUSE WE ARE LAZY OR INCOMPETENT. I plan my lessons/units around the curriculum that is based on the state standards written by the brightest minds in the state. I link them to reading, writing, and math whenever possible. I plan them to highlight or showcase a students strengths like working with others or applying artistic abilities (just as an example). I incorporate a way to challenge their weaknesses not to humiliate them but for growth. I use humor as an attempt to entertain, I tie in technology to make it more relevant, and evaluate on the skills that have been identified by employers as necessary for a job in the 21st century. I always try to differentiate my lessons so that I hit four or five intelligences and at least two of the learning styles/modalities. But I still can't "make" a child recall information at such a success rate that they fill in all the right bubbles on a scantron sheet once a year. Even if my means of living depended on it.

This is what I strive to do everyday. It took years to get my lessons to this point and I'm still learning from my colleagues (that share because were are partners instead of competitors that want to steal your piece of the public school dollars pie). I promise to keep on learning. Redo everything I've built if another/better way comes along. It's called being a professional. Today's teachers are pretty good at it.

goiing gone should read this. I can just picture him coming into the classroom wanting to take away pay from his kids teacher because his kid can't figure out what 2 + 2 is. :mj07: :mj07: :mj07:
 
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