Chiropractic is Quackery

Eddie Haskell

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Now that I have your attention and so as not to clutter Stevie Di's thread, I thought I would start this thread to respond to some, in Beantown Jims words, TOTAL AND COMPLETE LIES, posted by Chiropractor Backcracker in the aformentioned thread. I have stated and will state now for the record that in general chiropractors will adversely affect any legal case in which you rely on their testimony as the fast majority of crackerbackers overtreat, overbill and do nothing to improve your health.

In Stevie Di's thread, this charlatan stated in response to my statement that you do not need an bachelors degree to be admitted to chiropractic school:

"Not true you need a bachelors degree which I have a bachelors of science from San Diego State University in Business finance to be exact. Then a Doctor of Chiropractic another three and a half year program and a six month internship, which I believe is a year longer then your degree if I am correct so Eddie go ahead bring it on I also have another advanced degree a masters in business if you would like I can tutor you. I own two buildings, practice 25 hours per week and gross 1.2 mill per year..."

Although the last part of this clowns post is eeirly familiar to one of my favorite posters from San Diego, I quote this reprobate as an example of one of those chiropractors who will send one of there employees each day to your local police records division to obtain copies of all the accident reports filed the day before and then send each person who was rearended a letter offering a "free consultation". I am exposing the ambulance chasers of the "healing" arts profession. God, I feel like John Stossell.

Although each state governs admission requirements to chiropractic college, most states require only that the candidate complete two to four years of undergraduate study. A BACHELOR'S DEGREE IS NOT REQUIRED FOR ADMISSION TO CHIROPRACTIC SCHOOL. The council on chiropractic education, the accrediting agency for chiropractic education, which sets the standard for curriculum at cracker backer schools, sets the following admission requirements to become admitted to one of the 16 chiropractic schools in the US:

1) 2 years of undergraduate education;
2) a whopping 2.5 grade point average (4.0 scale) in biology, chemistry, physics, psychology, general humanities; and
3) a cumulative grade point average of not less than 2.25.

Although there is a move within the societies affiliated with this junk science to require a bachelors degree it has yet to become a standard adopted by the American Chiropractic Association.

So, if you want some medical school wannabe with an overall C- average from Paducah State Technical School, who never finished college, to apply force to your spinal column three times a week at $150.00 a pop to cure your ADD, then you deserve everything your going to get. That is, a probable defense verdict in your "guaranteed" rearender, a $10,000.00 + chiropractor bill and a very sore neck and back. But I guess it won't matter to you since you won't be paying attention as that will not be cured either.

It amazes me that people would even consider these witch doctors. But then again, 59 million people voted for Bush. Although I have no research to back this up, my guess is most chiropractic patients voted for Bush. Outside of our little internet club here, anyone who seeks professional guidance from this Identity clown lawyer or this charlatan Backcracker has to be out of there minds.

Oh yeah, Vyrus, that old tactic of trying to closely affiliate yourself and your bullshit profession with traditional medicine is real worn out. I'm sure your daddy the medical doctor refers many of his soft tissue patients to you because your such a good back cracker and not because you are his son. I'm so glad you own two buildings, gross over a million dollar annually and work only 25 hours a week.

Since you are so proud of the money you make, you must be right and I must be wrong. I work 60-70 hours a week at all hours, rent an office in downtown Cincinnati, and gross about 250k a year. The real difference between us is that if I see a rearender victim who was not hurt, I'll wish them luck and send them out the door without taking the case. I have not doubt that same victim will walk out the door of my office travel down the street and walk into your plush office and you will treat him 3x per week for the next 6 months after he signs the lien letter.

Eddie
 

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I WENT TO A CHIROPRACTOR FOR YEARS FOR CHRONIC / RECURRING PAIN IN MY BACK, NECK, AND SHOULDERS. THE LAST TIME I WENT WAS AFTER I GOT AN MRI THAT SAID I HAD A HERNIATED DISC L5S1. I WAS ON A MILLION PAIN KILLERS, WHICH DID NOTHING, AND THE CHIROPRACTOR WASN?T DOING ANYTHING FOR ME THIS TIME EITHER. A GUY FROM THE UNION TURNED ME ON TO DR. JOHN SARNO HERE IN THE CITY AND I?VE NEVER HAD A BACK PROBLEM SINCE. I?VE MET WITH HIM AND WILL READ HIS BOOK IF I FEEL ANY TYPE OF PAIN COMING ON IN MY BACK. HE, AND NOW I, BELIEVE THAT MOST THAT STRUCTURAL CONDITIONS ARE OFTEN NOT THE SOURCE OF THE PAIN. HIS RESEARCH AND MINDBODY APPROACH TO THE CAUSE AND CURE GO BEYOND THE TRADITIONAL PHYSICAL PERSPECTIVE TO CONSIDER THE RELATIONSHIP OF STRESS AND PSYCHOLOGICAL FACTORS TO PHYSICAL SYMPTOMS.

WITH THAT BEING SAID, I WILL AGREE THAT CHIROPRACTIC IS QUACKERY.
 

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Thats some pretty heavy research there Edward. I'm impressed,seriously!
With that being said I think Chiros have their place and wouldn't include all as frauds--as with any profession you have the good,the bad and the ugly.

From a logical perspective I would conclude that someone who---

"Owns two buildings, practice 25 hours per week and gross 1.2 mill per year..."

--would not be shilling rear enders on forums---and for his above statement to be correct--it would be logical he was an underachiever in school from very wealthy family and inheirited or was given property (2 buildings) and majority of his income is from from rental income and not his practice. IMHO
 

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Eddie Haskell said:
I work 60-70 hours a week at all hours, rent an office in downtown Cincinnati, and gross about 250k a year. Eddie

What the!!! Hey Eddie, or Smells per your Caddy Shack reference, you can carry your own golf clubs-Remember the almost MadJack Open last year?
Also not all chiropractors are quacks...
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Ain't that right Dogs :tongue
 

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Right on Cman :)

And what about a little Asian Massage therepy--the legit kind.

--1st place I go after checking into China is to a massage therepy
establishment ran and operated by blind people.Start by putting your feet in wooden tub with oils and water and after about 1 1/2 hours at cost of about $1.50 US you walk out feeling like a million dollars and all pains from 20 hour flight in cramp seat are "poof" gone.
 

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I'm 57 years old and have had back problems all my life, well almost. MD's gave me pills and wanted to operate. Went to a highly reccomended chiro a few years back and I am a new man. There might be some quacks out there like any profession, but i swear by mine. :clap:
 

Eddie Haskell

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Thats Judge Smales.

I do not mean to imply all chiro's are quacks. I used that topic headline to point out the inconsistencies (I'm being nice) in this guys posts. I know of some chiro's who treat appropriately and charge reasonably.

The ones who send solicitation letters are the ones who stick in my craw (what the hell is a craw anyway). I also believe alternative/holistic/far eastern medicine is good and has its place. But, come on, chiropractic can treat ADD??? That's dangerous.

Wayne, as far as this guys stated assets, you have to first believe him in order to arrive at a conclusion that he was either an underachiever or a member of the lucky sperm club. I, for one, do not believe him as anyone who measures the worth of another based on the size of their bank accounts displays a lot of immaturity, insecurity and lack of wisdom.

By the way, my hours worked and income reference may or may not be true. Wasn't meant to do anything other than make a point. However, I regret posting that kinda stuff as I think its irrelevant.

Chan, is that your mother, top row furthest on the left. If so, I might have to call you son.

Eddie
 

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most Chiro's (that I know) graduated from a College or University before attending Chiropractic School...like myself

there are some bad seeds, like every profession, but the principles and approach are beneficial to anyone that seeks out care and treatment

always call and talk to the DC to see what their approach is before going to their office for initial care...my .02 cents
 

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I have been to quite a few chiropractors in my life, and I think it is a very legit profession. I had one try to get me to keep scheduling appts. on a routine basis, so I quit going there. Each visit only costs me my 15 dollar copay and then my insurance company pays 24, so they only cost right at 40 bucks. There are some rural chiropractors in this area that do not take insurance. I know of one who charges 20 dollars and one who charges 10 dollars, and then they don't have to file in insurance.

I'll agree, Eddie, ones who solicit free consultations like that, I would have a problem with. 150 a visit is also an outrage, but that probably includes heat before, ice after, and maybe that roller table which most Ins. companies won't pay for.

I sent a friend to the DC I go to now, and he soon discovered he would not be able to help her. He scheduled her an MRI and found a very bad back problem. He told her he would not be able to help and referred to a neurosurgeon.
 

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Dogs that bark-- I am LOL -----and for his above statement to be correct--it would be logical he was an underachiever in school from very wealthy family and inheirited or was given property (2 buildings) and majority of his income is from from rental income and not his practice. IMHO

Never got a cent from family made all money on my own. work my ass off just three days per week all day see 60-70 patients on those days and hire another DC on my days off bought the building I am in and now lease space to MD in my clinic and acupuncturist. But Eddie since you work so hard and are so ethical you must just be jealous OR NOT A VERY GOOD BUSINESS MAN. you are an idiot!!!

Eddie this "The real difference between us is that if I see a rearender victim who was not hurt, I'll wish them luck and send them out the door without taking the case. I have not doubt that same victim will walk out the door of my office travel down the street and walk into your plush office and you will treat him 3x per week for the next 6 months after he signs the lien letter."

is also untrue I am a provider on all HMO panels and treat all types of patients the majority being HMO patients who have already sought traditional medical care been druged up for years and are still in pain. I would tell that same person the same as you go somewhere else no room for that in my practice. And sorry but I also do PT in my office don't just rack and crack all patients get quality treatment. Heat, stim, ultrasound, traction, massage (sorry no happy ending) and manipulation when indicated. If I can't or don't believe they are a fit for relief from pain will refer to appropriate specialist. I DONT NEED TO DEFEND MYSELF OR MY PROFESSION. ON THE OTHER HAND EDDIE IT IS YOUR PROFESSION THAT NEEDS THE DEFENSE FOR ALL THE CORUPTION AND LIES THAT YOU SNAKES PROVIDE.

I don't need to defend my profession and I will take back what I am saying about yours but I feel it sad when and attorney needs to make himself feel better about his profession by slamming others professions. I work hard and help people in pain and get a great reward from that. At the end of the day no amount of money can provide the rewards I get by getting people out of pain and the thankyous I get from there family and then all the referrals they send me. It is unfortunate you EDDIE don't get those rewards out of your line of work you are just an old worthless piece of garbage who needs to put others down to make himself feel some sense of self worth.
 

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