Chris Perry for Heisman

[Nickelback]

Yeah, the Oregon performance will probably due him in, but my God he was incredible today against a great Ohio State rush D.

Can't wait to see who Michigan plays in the Rose. . . USC would be such a great matchup IMO.

Congrats to Wolverine backers today

 

[buckeye fan]

i hear that.. man was he impressive, he gets my vote, him or fitzgerald

 

[gardenweasel]

hard to argue

hard to argue

it`s got to be perry,fitzgerald or white.....monster years....

i didn`t think perry would be able to move on to the next level....i`ve changed my opinion....

 

[bjfinste]

When I broke down the OSU-Michigan game last week, I said that I didn't think Perry would be a factor at all so it would be on Navarre to win it, hence the OSU +7 play. I clearly underestimated both the skill and toughness of this kid. I have a strong dislike of Michigan, but this kid deserves his props.

 

[CWood97]

Perry is without question the best and most complete back in college football. He wrapped up the Doak Walker Saturday, and earned himself a trip to DAC for the Heisman presentation. He won't win it, but he is as deserving as anyone.

The thing that bugs me about Jason White winning the trophy (which he will) is the fact he wouldn't even start at UM, USC, OleMiss, Texas Tech. Georgia.........

 

[jpblack34]

I am an Oklahoman, and am truly biased to my Sooners, so I am gonna say something about White. While that is a good question whether he could start for any of those teams, how much better would this guy be without having two bum knees? I think Fitzgerald(sp?) should win this year, especially with this streak he has going on. With White getting a majority of the votes in the south and the west, it should be a close count the day the announcement is made. In my perfect world, OU wins the NC and White wins the Heisman.

 

[bbk]

cwood,

are you serious about him starting at those schools. jason white was recruited by all the big schools including qb U; the miami hurricanes; his numbers blow away every qb that starts for every team you listed; do you not think 40 td and 6 interceptions and all those passing yards and leading the nation in pass eff is impressive then what is??? yes ou has a great defense but the big difference is white this year straight from bob stoops mouth; i think he gets overlooked just a little bit due to their defense but you dont put up numbers like that unless you are very very good; and you dont start at ou unless you are very very good; not a huge ou but think more before you post :nono:

 

[CWood97]

Just my opinion, but I really don't think the kid is that talented a la Heupel in their last championship run. They have a great system, OL, core of receivers and defense to boot. While I do think White is a great story (comeback from injuries) and his a good, accurate passing QB with unreal numbers, I just don't believe if you put him on Georgia or LSU (just a couple teams that come to mind) that he'd be all that great. My three cents...

 

[Bob Stoops]

Perry Vs. Oregon 11 carries 26 yards. Heisman Trophy winners do not have games like that. In addition, against Iowa he had 24 carries for 87 yards. Those are not heisman numbers.

On the other side, Jason White has thrown for 3,446 yards 40 touchdowns and only 6 interceptions. Not shown in these numbers are the facts that he has sat out 6 quarters this year and the Sooner offense has repeatedly gone to a mostly running attck in the second half of games in order to protect big leads.

Against Texas, the #6 team in the BCS, he was 17-21 for 290 yards and four touchdowns yards despite not playing the majority of the fourth quarter.

White 40 TD - 6 INT
Palmer 33 TD - 10 INT
Weinke 33 TD - 11 INT.

The Numbers speak for themself.

 

[Mr Hockey]

Perry Vs. Oregon 11 carries 26 yards. Heisman Trophy winners do not have games like that. In addition, against Iowa he had 24 carries for 87 yards. Those are not heisman numbers.

On the other side, Jason White has thrown for 3,446 yards 40 touchdowns and only 6 interceptions. Not shown in these numbers are the facts that he has sat out 6 quarters this year and the Sooner offense has repeatedly gone to a mostly running attck in the second half of games in order to protect big leads.

Against Texas, the #6 team in the BCS, he was 17-21 for 290 yards and four touchdowns yards despite not playing the majority of the fourth quarter.

White 40 TD - 6 INT
Palmer 33 TD - 10 INT
Weinke 33 TD - 11 INT.

The Numbers speak for themself.

'So does the competition.

 

[CWood97]

BStoops, I have great respect for the Oklahoma team, players, coaching staff, etc. They are a damn good football team, one of the best we've seen in a long while. I also think White will win the Heisman, but not because he's the best or most outstanding player in college football. He'll win it because he plays on the best team, and has great stats. Period.

In hindsight, do you think Danny Wuerffel was the best college player in 1996, or do you think maybe, just maybe, he was a product of the team/system???

MHO is that Jason White on Oklahoma is a Heisman trophy winner. On any other top ten team, he's either a backup, or an all conference type player.

 

[bbk]

cwood

get real do you think white has better skill position players and better offensive lineman than the top 10 teams in the nation; your statement is ridiculous; give the guy his props; you are right his stats do smoke everyone and remember he was recruited by floriday state; florida; miami; ou and alot of other teams;
and in my opinion i would take kevin jones over perry in a heartbeat; jones doesn get shutdown by oregan what a freakin joke
and doesnt whites numbers smoke carson palmers the number one pick in the draft; i think so

 

[Scott4USC]

bbk

Your forgetting Carson Palmers numbers came against the toughest schedule in the nation last year. Did OU face, AU, @CO, @KSU, and ND for an OOC schedule? Carson also faced great defenses as well.

In my opinion, if it is a close race with couple players, i would give the heisman to the player that put up the #'s against the tougher competition.

CWood97

I agree with you, some players are just a product of their system. For example, at USC Lienart has put up ridiculous #'s and is actually a top 5 Heisman candidate. (he won't win it but hopefully comes close). I think Lienart is great QB but more of a product of having NORM CHOW (best OC in country) and all the talented players around him. The guy hardly ever faces pressure, and in my opinion has the best WR tandem in the country to throw too. Also super talented RB's out of backfield.

This years Heisman race is very tough in my opinion, and I am not sure who I would vote for. Last year i clearly felt Carson deserved it.

FIGHT ON!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[CWood97]

Think Kevin Jones would bust OSU for over 200 total yards and two TD's? Before you answer, keep in mind that OSU was giving up 60 RUSHING YARDS PER GAME prior to last week.

As far as giving White props, I will. He is a good QB on the best team in America. Said team's offense suits his abilities and disguises his weaknesses, thus giving him great stats. How's that for props.

 

[dr. freeze]

LMAO yeah Jason White comes from the same system that Nate Hybl came from.....

Sooner would be going for their 4th Title in a row if White had better knees......

 

[Hoops]

LMAO yeah Jason White comes from the same system that Nate Hybl came from.....

Sooner would be going for their 4th Title in a row if White had better knees......

Yep, playing with most of the guys Hybl had the luxury of playing with, yet Hybl only produced modest numbers (at best).

And as it was already pointed out, White was a big time recruit coming out of high school.

 

[bbk]

The game was at Michigan huge factor; what did he do on the road against Ore. who gives up over 150 yards a game rushing
he did jackshit so dont start doing comparisons it wont work
kevin jones is the better back period; its funny how everyone was talking about perry when he was putting up big stats against crappy teams then he starting playing good teams and he got nothing; as far as scott goes shut the F*ck up who cares what you think you would suck carson palmes D*&k and eat out Norm Chow's butt if they asked you too; no one respects your opinion at all in this forum; and lastly what are jason whites weaknesses; its not arm strength; its not accuracy; its not numbers; so what is it; he has 2 torn acls so mobility is an issue but dont really see alot of qbs out there setting rushing records.
As far as Danny in 96; football is a numbers game you dont put up the numbers you dont win awards period; danny had the best numbers; you dont have to have great pro potential to win the heiman a la charlie ward

 

[CWood97]

The game was at Michigan huge factor; what did he do on the road against Ore. who gives up over 150 yards a game rushing
he did jackshit so dont start doing comparisons it wont work
kevin jones is the better back period; its funny how everyone was talking about perry when he was putting up big stats against crappy teams then he starting playing good teams and he got nothing

got nothing, uhhhhhhh, ok. I get it, 200 total yards (150 rushing) against the country's best run D, but that doesn't count because its at home. Ok, well what about the 200+ rushing at MSU? Or maybe the 85 rushing and 122 receiving at Minny.

 

[gman2]

jmo, but all of this re: perry can be summed up in two sentences

chris perry is the most productive college back and best running back at the college level right now.

kevin jones is the best pure running back in the country and the best nfl prospect w/o question

 

[CWood97]

jmo, but all of this re: perry can be summed up in two sentences

chris perry is the most productive college back and best running back at the college level right now.

kevin jones is the best pure running back in the country and the best nfl prospect w/o question

Agree 100%