Classic Phil Hellmuth

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Took a couple of beats to knock him out.......ranted in typical Phil fashion about how terrible every other player besides himself is and of course his always used line of "if it wasn't for luck I'd never lose a touornament."


Matusow just had an implosion too.......this one might have been funnier than Phil. Got a 10 minute penalty for dropping the "F" bomb and then went on an "F" bomb tirade. Either out for 30 or 40 minutes, don't know which. His dealer was the cause of it in my opinion but it was still funny.
 

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not only that, japanese dealer says he mucked the cards at him, at which table
stood up for mike
then mike leans over to plaver and drops f-bomb

and japanese dealer


"he say f word, yah, yah, yah,yah"

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He may come off as a crybaby guys but he is right. I mean these new players are horrible and that was a bad beat he took. It happens every time you see him. It would get pretty old at 10,000 a pop. There is no question he is the best No Limit Holdem player in the world still today. I love lisening to him.
"you find a jack for the live one"
"this guy is trying to catch a flight"
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He's not always in the right. He complains when he loses.

He has no right to complain about amateur players because the purse would not be near what it is if it weren't for them. He can find a tournament any day that doesn't have the amateurs there. Bt the cameras aren't there, either.

Why is it that so many pros are able to understand the amateurs and beat them to get to the final table and Phil isn't (in the main event at least)?

STFU, Phil.

Phil may be the best when he is up against other pros, but I don't think he has come around to how to beat a room full of amateurs yet. And like it or not, that is a huge part of today's strategy when it comes to the WSOP main event.

Just an opinion.
 

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I just dont gt watching poker on tv. It is on 4 month tape delay, edited out the butt, and the announcers are terrible - pretty amazing since they already know what happens. Folks on tv dont understand how great hellmuth is because they dont see what he does at the table for 8 hours - they just see the ESPN edit to make him look bad. I have tried watching and given up.

I also chuckled when I ran across a few of those "hold em or fold em commercials." Not sure they even once have made the right decision. they always couch it as based upon what the result turned out to be versus what a player should do at that point.

You know, come to think of it, if people are trying to play based on what they see on tv there may be more poker fish than fish in the ocean.
 

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Hmm tell me exactly what strategy would have beaten Varkonyi, Moneymaker or Raymer - possibly the 3 worst and luckiest players I have ever seen.
 

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obviously he is a great player. but a titty baby is still a titty baby. grow up. i seldom watch poker on tv anymore, but when i see him i'm hoping for him to get beat, especially by an amateur , just so i can see him have a tantrum. i'd love to see him go off on someone for beating him theen watch that person bitch slap him for acting like an infant. he needs an attitude adjustment big time.
 

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If you think you can beat these "amatuers" then flip a coin 20 times in a row and when you guess it right every time let me know. See you in about 5 or 6 years. Its hack after hack in these things.
 

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Raymer is not a hack, but no matter who wins they will have gotten extremely lucky. Hellmuth is 50 % whiney bitch, 50 % play acting for tv, and he better hope that luck remains a factor in poker, otherwise Daniel Negreanu will win every one.
 

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There is no doubt that luck is involved, but is it also not involved when pros win a hand? Whether or not you make the "right" decision, there is still luck involved.

I watched a bit of the shoing last night. hellmuth made a great laydown at one point (As up against a not so apparent full house) which shows how great he is. But I also saw him outdraw another player on two different occassions. Plainly put, he got lucky in both of those spots. But he's Hellmuth so it's just great play.

Raymer won his showdowns last year which is what gets you through these marathons, but he was in those positions because he is a skilled player as well.

Moneymaker is pretty terrible (and that's being nice), but he had to do a couple of things right to get through that many people.

And if it so unfair to the pros, then don't show up. I can't stand good poker players that bitch about bad calls on their opponents part just becasue they lost. You sure as hell aren't pissed when they do it and lose. It basically comes down to being a good sport about it.

Tell me the last time you saw Ivey or Lederer barade a player, win or lose, for playing against the book.
 

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To add: when Hellmuth made the great call, he sure was ready to tell everyone in the room what a great laydown, I was supposed t go broke, who else could make that laydown?..... blah, blah, blah.

And people think Terrell Owens is bad for sports.
 

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When TO starts putting up 10,000 of his own money to play in football games, not to mention expenses, then we will see who is or isnt a good sport. I respect your opinion Dawg, I just dont think Phil is nearly as bad as people make him out to be. But then again I act just like him so there ya go!!
 
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