Clemson - 7 at Auburn and UNC + 3 vs Georgia
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Just early opinions, but think wrong team is favored in the NC/GA game...Heels probably win that one. Kirby Smart's first game as new coach will get all the hype, but he gets a very tough match up. Larry Fedora for NC has taken this Heel team to a new level. Not only has the offense risen to the top of the ACC, but the defense has taken huge steps forward. #1 pass D in the ACC last year with 7 starters returning. Heels look real good here.....
Clemson/Auburn game.....tough one! Off hand Clemson looks real easy just laying -7 with an offense that is much better than Auburns and coming off the National Title game appearance. Normally teams who lose the "big" game the prior year do not fair well ATS the year after. That goes for the NFL also. Auburn has been terrible at home recently going 1-10 ATS L/11 which would scare anyone away, but I feel they will be improved this year and could increase their win total to maybe 8 or 9 this season. They would have to absolutely win the TO battle in this game to have any chance at a cover or win. Early in the season that's very hard to try and predict let alone at all period. This game is scary probably staying away
Clemson/Auburn game.....tough one! Off hand Clemson looks real easy just laying -7 with an offense that is much better than Auburns and coming off the National Title game appearance. Normally teams who lose the "big" game the prior year do not fair well ATS the year after. That goes for the NFL also. Auburn has been terrible at home recently going 1-10 ATS L/11 which would scare anyone away, but I feel they will be improved this year and could increase their win total to maybe 8 or 9 this season. They would have to absolutely win the TO battle in this game to have any chance at a cover or win. Early in the season that's very hard to try and predict let alone at all period. This game is scary probably staying away
I hate the Tarheels but I can't deny they do have talent. especially Running back Elijah Hood.
Clemson should be able to name the score in my opinion.
that Clemson offense ain't no joke
I hear ya with Clemson.....offense is LEGIT again this season!! I just hate the opening line oddsmakers are giving this game. If this was 9, 10, 12 maybe that would make more sense to me. Auburn was just 7-6 last season....Clemson was in the title game and as you stated that offense can probably name the score most of the time. Doing my homework and research for the SEC few weeks back I read some decent things on Auburn. Like I said I feel they surpass their win total by at least 2 games from last season. Clemson HAS TO make a couple mistakes though to turn into easier points for Auburn to hang. I don't see them hanging toe to toe no way and you know the entire coaching staff knows that. If Clemson wins the TO battle your -7 is golden!
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Clemson - 7 at Auburn, an ACC team over an SEC team by a touch? Vegas needs 50/50 action folks. Clemson with Heisman hopeful and 8 returning offensive starters, yet lost several key "D" studs including Lawson but several backups who got lots of snaps return as well to fill those voids. Clemson averaged 38.5 ppg while allowing 21.7 ppg? So a 17 pt margin of victory edge. Auburn meanwhile underachieved last year and played revolving QBs. Auburn returns just 5 starters and listed as John Franklin to be starting QB, they do return a capable RB in Chandler Cox, on "D" they return just 5 starters, 2 lineman and 3 DBs which is huge vs Clemson, however Clemson has a pretty strong running attack. Auburn scored 27.5 ppg last year and gave up 26 ppg, they'll be improved. Clemson just 1-2 SU last 3 vs SEC teams, two times played Georgia and once vs Bama. Lost to Bama LY by only 5. Auburn at home is a live dog, key will be turnovers and kicking game. We do remember how Dabo face checked his punter last year don't we? Auburn as a home dog in their first home game of 5 straight home games to be played. Last time these two tangled, it was neutral and Clemson won by 7 in '12. Line is right on for this one. Key will be kicking game. I'm gonna wait for that line to move down any before I make a play on it, but you wanted this one broken down so there ya have it.
UNC + 3 vs Georgia - Neutral game supposedly, Atlanta Dome and Bulldogs giving up 3? UNC is a dog role vs SEC have their moments, but they will be facing a program with a new Head Coach in Kirby Smart and UNC will start a new QB who got plenty of snaps behind Marquise last year in Trubisky who's not a bad passer, UNC w/7 returnees on "O" and 6 on "D", 3 lineman, 3 DBs, all new LBs. Tarheels averaged 41 ppg and allowed 24 ppg in '16, this team will be in same offensive scheme and should be improved on "D" in 2nd year of Chiz-dick running that part of the team. Georgia returns 8 on "O" including RB Nick Chubb who could be a Heisman hopeful as well as Sony Michel. G Lambert will get the nod at QB and on "D" Bulldogs with just 5 returnees, all 4 DBs are back however, so Heels will try to run through the 'Dawgs front. 3 pt spread is probably the right line to throw out there to get the 50/50 action Vegas needs, Dawgs scored 26 ppg and allowed 17 ppg LY, UNC should probably be the favored team by a slight margin of 1 on my numbers. New Head Coaches taking over a winning program have had better success in game 1 situations and Kirby Smart has high accolades coming into this one while UNC had a decent year under the "Fedora Hat" last year with 11 wins. How the Heels did that is playing a cup cake schedule, like NC A&T, Delaware, S Carolina they lost in week 1 and should have won if not for stupid turnovers by the Offense more than once in the red zone. UNC came to earth losing to Clemson in a hard fought game in the ACC (neutral site, might as well been at home) and losing to Baylor in their bowl game, my bowl Game of the Year on the Heels :facepalm:. I think Georgia comes out of this one, but 3 pts is about right as I have this one as a pick 'em at a neutral field and I give 3 pts for Georgia playing at the Georgia Dome, on fake grass. Both teams are naturally grass field performers so this one could be a high scoring affair, something like 38-35.
Good luck on whatever you play. Long time before game time so these lines will ultimately change. The early lines come out to get the big dogs to play to give Vegas some action on hold so to speak and see where the wiseguys will pounce.
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UNC + 3 vs Georgia - Neutral game supposedly, Atlanta Dome and Bulldogs giving up 3? UNC is a dog role vs SEC have their moments, but they will be facing a program with a new Head Coach in Kirby Smart and UNC will start a new QB who got plenty of snaps behind Marquise last year in Trubisky who's not a bad passer, UNC w/7 returnees on "O" and 6 on "D", 3 lineman, 3 DBs, all new LBs. Tarheels averaged 41 ppg and allowed 24 ppg in '16, this team will be in same offensive scheme and should be improved on "D" in 2nd year of Chiz-dick running that part of the team. Georgia returns 8 on "O" including RB Nick Chubb who could be a Heisman hopeful as well as Sony Michel. G Lambert will get the nod at QB and on "D" Bulldogs with just 5 returnees, all 4 DBs are back however, so Heels will try to run through the 'Dawgs front. 3 pt spread is probably the right line to throw out there to get the 50/50 action Vegas needs, Dawgs scored 26 ppg and allowed 17 ppg LY, UNC should probably be the favored team by a slight margin of 1 on my numbers. New Head Coaches taking over a winning program have had better success in game 1 situations and Kirby Smart has high accolades coming into this one while UNC had a decent year under the "Fedora Hat" last year with 11 wins. How the Heels did that is playing a cup cake schedule, like NC A&T, Delaware, S Carolina they lost in week 1 and should have won if not for stupid turnovers by the Offense more than once in the red zone. UNC came to earth losing to Clemson in a hard fought game in the ACC (neutral site, might as well been at home) and losing to Baylor in their bowl game, my bowl Game of the Year on the Heels :facepalm:. I think Georgia comes out of this one, but 3 pts is about right as I have this one as a pick 'em at a neutral field and I give 3 pts for Georgia playing at the Georgia Dome, on fake grass. Both teams are naturally grass field performers so this one could be a high scoring affair, something like 38-35.
Good luck on whatever you play. Long time before game time so these lines will ultimately change. The early lines come out to get the big dogs to play to give Vegas some action on hold so to speak and see where the wiseguys will pounce.
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he's a H-back that got 3 carries for 25 yards last year. what in the world are you talking about?
Hey War.....what's your take on the game man? And Auburn's season? Feel I'm the only one that sees them improving that 7-6 record from last season
What I'm talking about is Cox is a capable back!! Period!! Do you not agree? I don't care how many carries he got last yr, I'm talking about his ability to make plays for the War Eagles!! I'm sure numbnuts, Gus, knows what he's doing.
Give me Auburn +7 and UGA -3
I think the Clem/Aub game will be tight one with a lot of points scored, but it comes down to a field goal.
UGA has the better D of the 2 teams and better running game. If Chubb and Michel are healthy, I think UGA beats them handily. Remember, UNC was much better last year and lost to SCar. UNC has not looked good in their last 2 openers vs. SEC opponents. (SCar twice)
I think the Clem/Aub game will be tight one with a lot of points scored, but it comes down to a field goal.
UGA has the better D of the 2 teams and better running game. If Chubb and Michel are healthy, I think UGA beats them handily. Remember, UNC was much better last year and lost to SCar. UNC has not looked good in their last 2 openers vs. SEC opponents. (SCar twice)
hey huddy. our defense should keep us in the game for the most part.QB play is a big ? for AU. i see us running the ball and only throwing short. i would be shocked to see any vertical throws early in the season which is a major issue. we will be very predictable on offense. i have us going 6-6 with an outside shot at 7-5
no, i dont agree. he's a blocker and zero threat with his hands on the ball. get a clue
Thanks War!! Nice insight.....probably changing my outlook on them now. I read they had some QB issues, but not as bad as you're saying. That is going to be a big problem not having any vertical game. Guess a lot of UNDERS may be the way to go early with them....defense and run, run, run the ball.
This Clemson line just baffles me though....-7 is just way too low. I'm probably overthinking it though Clemson probably wins by DD's
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Auburn dismisses top running back Jovon Robinson from team
http://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/nca...on-from-team/ar-BBvdOx7?li=BBnb7Kz&ocid=HPDHP
http://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/nca...on-from-team/ar-BBvdOx7?li=BBnb7Kz&ocid=HPDHP
decent blow to the team. looks like Nostradamus above might get his wishes with chandler cox running the ball this year
Clemson will be -10 by kickoff is my guess. Auburn was so difficult to watch last year as their QB play was horrible.
Gun to my head I think we go 7-5 or 8-4.
Not trying to be an ass but you know we had 2 different QBs last year right? One QB, Jeremy Johnson, was horrible and demoted to 2nd string by like week 4 (He's currently #3 on the depth chart). Sean White, who was just named starter, is a very capable game manager and played well before he hurt his knee. He was very sharp against Arkansas but our receivers had 12 drops, which lost us that game. QB play is the least of my worries for this team.
WR - all of our talent is in the form of True Freshmen. Think we signed 3 of the top 10 WRs in the country this past cycle but they probably won't see a whole lot of action in week 1. Current starters are all small and pretty mediocre.
OL - 2 new OTs but strong guys returning at Gs and C. Injuries to Clemsons DL make me feel a little better about breaking in two fresh tackles. We should be able to run the ball fairly well, even with the loss of Robinson. Kerryon Johnson looked good in limited action last year and returning kicks.
Our DL playing to their potential is the only hope we have of containing Deshaun. We have a ton of talent up front - Lawson (when healthy), Monty Adams, and Byron Cowart are all studs. Whether or not they can stay healthy and play like they're capable of is anyone's guess. When Lawson was on the field last year our DL play was very good.
LBs - full of question marks. Hopefully TJ Neal grad transfer from Illinois can be a serviceable LB to go with Tre Williams.
DBs - got one stud Safety and one stud CB. Our other CB, Dean, just got named starter so he could get picked on. Carlton Davis isn't quite a shut down corner for CFB but he's close. Our Starting SS got arrested Wednesday night on gun charges and evading police so I doubt he sees the field against Clemson. So that puts Tray Matthews back at SS who had the infamous play last year against LSU where he tried to jump on Fournette's back and got thrown off like a bitch.
I think -7 is too low. It's currently at 7.5. Unless it jumps 2.5 points because of our SS getting arrested it's not gonna get anywhere close to 10+ so I think Clemson is probably a good play.
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