Close the Damn Boarder PLEASE

[Trench]

*** BREAKING NEWS ***

WASHINGTON (AP) -- President Obama has announced the launch of "Operation Loose Stool" in response to the abnormal frequency and fluidity of fecal evacuations coming from the orafices of Americans who've contracted a particularly insidious strain of virus health officials have identified as "H1-N1", or "Hyper-Neoconservatism". President Obama called the morbidly frequent and profuse discharge coming from the mouths of right-wing radio talk show personalities "Weapons of Mass Diarrhea". Neoconservatives are urged to contact their local Health Department to obtain colostomy bags which are to be worn over the mouth or other orafices where abnormal anal leakage is occuring.

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[SKEETER1]

So it appears now that the swine flu, which I have dubbed the Janet Napolitano Flu, is now in the verge of becoming a world wide pandemic. People have now become sick on American soil as the result of this disease, which if handled properly could easily have been kept out. Government offices and restaurants are being closed across Mexico. But what should have been closed first and foremost were the borders. Stop people from Mexico, where the disease started, from coming into the United States and spreading it further. Close down all trade and travel between the United States and Mexico. All the known cases of this disease can be traced directly to someone who had traveled to our ?good neighbor? to the south.

But the government has ignorantly and stupidly refused to do the very thing that is necessary for survival. Piggish thinking is enabling the spread of the swine flu. You have Obama saying that it wouldn?t do any good to close the borders because that would be closing the barn door after the horses got out.

Ignorance! Stupidity! At that point why didn?t some journalist ask the wonderful Mr. Obama a simple question? What about additional cases of swine flu that will come into the United States from Mexico to spread the disease even further? It may be in the country now, but wouldn?t it prevent more illness and more deaths if they were to shut down the borders to stop the contagion? Apparently not.

Apparently all the crooked employers in the US that employ illegal aliens think their bottom line is more important than thousands of people getting sick in this country because of swine flu. Apparently the owners of companies who send goods into the United States with Mexican truckers think that their business trumps the health of American citizens. And apparently the airlines are so concerned with their business that they wouldn?t dare allow this administration to stop their flights even if it means the health of thousands of American could be preserved.
Mexico has shut down its businesses and schools and allows their borderagents to wear masks. WOW They are attempting to protect their country. Napoliatano will NOT allow our border agents to wear the masks because she doesnt want to "OFFEND" mexico. Are you fuking kidding me. Why dont we call CUBA a hate monger as well as russia and china as they will NOT allow airlines to come in from Mexico. Just so you understand, this flu originated back in 1918 called the Mexican flu but we can not call it that today as it might offend someone (OH PLEASE) so now we call it the NO1o2o1 or some crap like that. Get the hell out of my country you damn illegals ! ! !

 

[hedgehog]

So it appears now that the swine flu, which I have dubbed the Janet Napolitano Flu, is now in the verge of becoming a world wide pandemic. People have now become sick on American soil as the result of this disease, which if handled properly could easily have been kept out. Government offices and restaurants are being closed across Mexico. But what should have been closed first and foremost were the borders. Stop people from Mexico, where the disease started, from coming into the United States and spreading it further. Close down all trade and travel between the United States and Mexico. All the known cases of this disease can be traced directly to someone who had traveled to our ?good neighbor? to the south.

But the government has ignorantly and stupidly refused to do the very thing that is necessary for survival. Piggish thinking is enabling the spread of the swine flu. You have Obama saying that it wouldn?t do any good to close the borders because that would be closing the barn door after the horses got out.

Ignorance! Stupidity! At that point why didn?t some journalist ask the wonderful Mr. Obama a simple question? What about additional cases of swine flu that will come into the United States from Mexico to spread the disease even further? It may be in the country now, but wouldn?t it prevent more illness and more deaths if they were to shut down the borders to stop the contagion? Apparently not.

Apparently all the crooked employers in the US that employ illegal aliens think their bottom line is more important than thousands of people getting sick in this country because of swine flu. Apparently the owners of companies who send goods into the United States with Mexican truckers think that their business trumps the health of American citizens. And apparently the airlines are so concerned with their business that they wouldn?t dare allow this administration to stop their flights even if it means the health of thousands of American could be preserved.
Mexico has shut down its businesses and schools and allows their borderagents to wear masks. WOW They are attempting to protect their country. Napoliatano will NOT allow our border agents to wear the masks because she doesnt want to "OFFEND" mexico. Are you fuking kidding me. Why dont we call CUBA a hate monger as well as russia and china as they will NOT allow airlines to come in from Mexico. Just so you understand, this flu originated back in 1918 called the Mexican flu but we can not call it that today as it might offend someone (OH PLEASE) so now we call it the NO1o2o1 or some crap like that. Get the hell out of my country you damn illegals ! ! !

SAVAGE NATION baby, I love listening to that guy on my way home from work:00hour

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[Trench]

Ya gotta love how xenophobes like Skeeter and Michael Weiner-Savage are using the swine flu to spew their anti-immigration propaganda.

A few facts to put things in perspective...

-- Swine Flu: 141 confirmed cases in the U.S. with 1 death.

-- Common Influenza: 36,000 deaths per year in the U.S. alone.

Who do you xenophobes think you're fooling?

 

[gardenweasel]

yes,there is swine flu...is it particularly deadly and virulent as it now exists?.....

doesn`t look like it...although,it seems to affect young healthy people more severely than older people...

they want to keep it from spreading...get it under control because (the fear is) that the longer it is around, the more likely it will run into another flu virus, swap spit and mutate into something truly, truly nasty.......


that`s the long and the short of it..

 

[gardenweasel]

Ya gotta love how xenophobes like Skeeter and Michael Weiner-Savage are using the swine flu to spew their anti-immigration propaganda.

A few facts to put things in perspective...

-- Swine Flu: 141 confirmed cases in the U.S. with 1 death.

-- Common Influenza: 36,000 deaths per year in the U.S. alone.

Who do you xenophobes think you're fooling?

i`d love to bust your balls on this,but i was just as ignorant on the subject as you before i read up on this situation....

heres what i found...

this isn`t the regular flu(as you stated)....it`s a completely new, never before seen strain....apparently avian flu and human
flu genes used a pig as a mixing vat....the end result is a combination of all three that is now transmissible to humans....

the fact that not too many people have died from it yet hardly means that it is "benign"....the more and longer it spreads from human to human, the more easily it will spread. ...

cut and paste/"Viruses are just pieces of DNA or RNA, and genetic information that must use a hosts cells to replicate themselves. As they replicate, they mutate.

This new flu may make a benign sweep around the planet, and then come back next year with some new,
and more deadly, properties"..............

the total number of deaths thing is bogus....it`s the mortality rate that`s scaring people...

yes, maybe 500,000 people die worldwide each year from the flu. ...regular influenza normally has about a .1% mortality rate....so, if 500,000 died, that means a total of 499,500,000 people contracted the flu and lived.......

out of 1600 suspected cases of swine flu in mehico, there are 140 suspected deaths. ...if those numbers are correct, that's almost a 9% mortality rate.....so,if you extrapolate those numbers out,instead
of 500,000 annual flu deaths, you'd be looking at 450 million.......

no one`s sure if the mortality rate outside mehico is 9%.....no one knows yet whether this new flu has anywhere near a 9% mortality rate all told, but there's absolutely nothing to stop such a deadly flu strain from appearing and mutating....

more cut and paste/"Viruses do unpredictable things. Viruses like AIDS and Ebola, which are currently spread only through body fluids, do not survive well outside of the body. because of that, they're not likely to go airborne"...........

but,in the case of this new flu, "not likely" is a far cry from "impossible"......

that`s why countries are taking serious precautions....

 

[Trench]

i`d love to bust your balls on this,but i was just as ignorant on the subject as you before i read up on this situation....

You bust my balls? That'll be the day. You aint got the game.

As usual, you completely missed my point. To make it easier on you, I'll speak in broken English like most of you Neocons do...

Precautions, Awareness, Common Sense: GOOD!

Xenaphobia, Paranoia, Fear, Panic: BAD!

Does that help?

 

[SKEETER1]

LMAO @Trenchy and Gardenweasel....well guys give WEINER Michael Savage a call and PLEASE list your name so all of us here on Madjacks can listen to your call....I can't wait for this. I record the show (which is 3 hrs) so I will type it bk to all of our viewers.....go ahead call, but I warn you, know your history 1-800-449-8255. I know you wont call, I have asked many times for people of such hate and thinking they know it all to call. So I will not hold my breath. So keep on bashing and bashing or better yet call Randy Rhodes LOL how about your ex ESPN commentator who has a bladder problem and cant stop urinating while on MSNBC. They had to completely move out of one office building becasue of the smell. Hey Trenchy I am a xenophobe because I hate illegals here in the USA?? Dont make me come out with facts that 84% of Americans do not want them here and why.

 

[gardenweasel]

LMAO @Trenchy and Gardenweasel....well guys give WEINER Michael Savage a call and PLEASE list your name so all of us here on Madjacks can listen to your call....I can't wait for this. I record the show (which is 3 hrs) so I will type it bk to all of our viewers.....go ahead call, but I warn you, know your history 1-800-449-8255. I know you wont call, I have asked many times for people of such hate and thinking they know it all to call. So I will not hold my breath. So keep on bashing and bashing or better yet call Randy Rhodes LOL how about your ex ESPN commentator who has a bladder problem and cant stop urinating while on MSNBC. They had to completely move out of one office building becasue of the smell. Hey Trenchy I am a xenophobe because I hate illegals here in the USA?? Dont make me come out with facts that 84% of Americans do not want them here and why.

skeeter...i think i was agreeing with you...

trenchy...i think you do pretty well,considering(how do you type in a straight jacket?)....

 

[SKEETER1]

Gardenweasel I stand corrected and I apologize to you. Was way to far ahead of myself in my readings.

 

[BobbyBlueChip]

skeeter...i think i was agreeing with you...
....

:mj07:

 

[Trench]

LMAO @Trenchy and Gardenweasel.... Hey Trenchy I am a xenophobe because I hate illegals here in the USA?? Dont make me come out with facts that 84% of Americans do not want them here and why.

Pssst... Skeeter. I don't think you're a xenophope because you have a problem with illegals. I think you're a xenophobe because you listen to a RAGING xenophope for 3 hours a day whose only agenda is to politicize the swine flu to spew his xenophobic views, which you then choose to regurgitate.

Just tryin to help. :00hour

 

[SKEETER1]

Hey Trench....who would you recommend I listen to? Some 1 on MSNBC, CBS, NBC, ABC, CNN LOL? To be honest with you I am an Independent and I listen to it all and I come up with my own agenda. IMO the Dems havent a brain and the Repubs havent any balls.

 

[Trench]

Hey Trench....who would you recommend I listen to? Some 1 on MSNBC, CBS, NBC, ABC, CNN LOL? To be honest with you I am an Independent and I listen to it all and I come up with my own agenda. IMO the Dems havent a brain and the Repubs havent any balls.

Skeeter, I think any rational person knows we have to solve the border problem with Mexico, so I understand your frustration. The problem is guys like Michael Weiner-Savage exploit that frustration and play upon people's fears. Can you really blame poor Mexicans for coming to this country in search of a better life? The only difference between them and your ancestors or mine is their proximity to this country. If our ancestors hadn't had an ocean to cross, many would have entered this country the same way illegals from Mexico do today.

Like you, I'd like to see the U.S./Mexico border controlled much better than it is. Bush had 8 years to work on this problem, as did Clinton before him. Neither got much done. As with EVERY other issue, you righties want to blame Obama for the failures of our past leaders. I'm amused the way the right likes to accuse the left of "drinking the koolaid", yet many on the right seem to think we should be living in a Utopian paradise only 100 days into the new administration.

 

[Jaxx]

Florida has there first 2 comfirmed cases just back from Mexico. If border had been closed. Would not have happened with these two individuals. You can not tell me it would not have made any difference if they had closed the border. Keep drinking the Koolaid.

 

[Trench]

Florida has there first 2 comfirmed cases just back from Mexico. If border had been closed. Would not have happened with these two individuals. You can not tell me it would not have made any difference if they had closed the border. Keep drinking the Koolaid.

Are you naive enough to think we can actually keep influenza and other viruses from entering the U.S.? Although I don't believe for a second that it could be done, for the sake of argument, let's say it could. There are only two hypothetical scenarios where that idea could be even "remotely" possible.

1. Close ALL borders PERMANTLY. That means ALL international travel by plane, ship, train, auto and foot.

2. Quarantine ALL incoming travelers until they can be given a clean bill of health. That includes:
- all incoming foreign business travelers
- all U.S. citizens returning from international business travel
- all troops returning from overseas
- all incoming foreign tourists and vacationers
- all U.S. citizens returning from international recreational travel

Doing either of those would KILL the U.S. economy faster than the banks (nearly) did.

OR... You "Close the Border" protagonists can exercise some common sense and accept the fact that 36,000 people die of common influenza in this country every year. Yet you rocket scientists want to close the borders because we've got 141 confirmed cases of swine flue nationwide.

 

[gardenweasel]

Are you naive enough to think we can actually keep influenza and other viruses from entering the U.S.? Although I don't believe for a second that it could be done, for the sake of argument, let's say it could. There are only two hypothetical scenarios where that idea could be even "remotely" possible.

1. Close ALL borders PERMANTLY. That means ALL international travel by plane, ship, train, auto and foot.

2. Quarantine ALL incoming travelers until they can be given a clean bill of health. That includes:
- all incoming foreign business travelers
- all U.S. citizens returning from international business travel
- all troops returning from overseas
- all incoming foreign tourists and vacationers
- all U.S. citizens returning from international recreational travel

Doing either of those would KILL the U.S. economy faster than the banks (nearly) did.

OR... You "Close the Border" protagonists can exercise some common sense and accept the fact that 36,000 people die of common influenza in this country every year. Yet you rocket scientists want to close the borders because we've got 141 confirmed cases of swine flue nationwide.

don`t mind trench...he didn`t read my post regarding "mortality rates" and obviously missed the part about mehico being the gestational origin, breeding ground and epicenter of the virus...

but,to be fair,we`ve missed trench`s point also...the "fact" that this whole "swine flu" thing is obviously a bush/cheney creation intended to hit the minorities in this country since they have the least health care.......

/be kind to trench...he`s obviously suffering from the dreaded bacterial infection that strikes only the most de-ranged moonbats(the"boob"-onic plague)....

/:lol:

 

[djv]

AS is the normal case nobody has all info to make the right call. Of course the govrnment does. You know what channel someone watchs by there remarks they make. It,s a GD joke.

 

[Trench]

don`t mind trench...he didn`t read my post regarding "mortality rates" and obviously missed the part about mehico being the gestational origin, breeding ground and epicenter of the virus...

but,to be fair,we`ve missed trench`s point also...the "fact" that this whole "swine flu" thing is obviously a bush/cheney creation intended to hit the minorities in this country since they have the least health care.......

/be kind to trench...he`s obviously suffering from the dreaded bacterial infection that strikes only the most de-ranged moonbats(the"boob"-onic plague)....

/:lol:

OK gw, I'll admit to taking a contrarian position to what I perceive to be the Michael Weiner-Savage agenda surrounding the swine flu. That doesn't mean I don't take the swine flu seriously. I know that it has a significantly higher mortality rate than most strains of influenza. My argument is more with those who are seizing the opportunity to politicize this thing.

 

[kosar]

To be honest with you I am an Independent

:mj07: