CNN Special - Discrimination Against Atheists
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Why should religious beliefs be respected? I dont really know how to answer that without saying it is none of your fvcking business what anyone else believes. What if we reword your question and ask why should Homsexual beliefs be respected, pretty sure your party has fought the good fight there huh:shrug:
All religions are the same? Your right those damn Mormons will be the end of us:shrug: If yoyu are saying they all have a belief system ok, but to say they are all of equal threat :mj07:
So you do not know how the universe got here, but you are 100% certain that a supernatural being had nothing to do with it. Things just appear from nowhere huh:142smilie
The funny part is you can not tell me how the universe began but boy you know why it will end:142smilie
Nostradumbass:142smilie
UGA: You failed to address any of my points.
On asking why I should respect religion, you decided to swear and point the finger at homosexuals. How very DTB of you.
On asking you to make a case that all religions aren't the same, you fell flat on your face.
I mention that your supernatural answer is illogical and come back with....well, nothing.
Great post UGA. You continue to bring nothing to the table.
On asking why I should respect religion, you decided to swear and point the finger at homosexuals. How very DTB of you.
On asking you to make a case that all religions aren't the same, you fell flat on your face.
I mention that your supernatural answer is illogical and come back with....well, nothing.
Great post UGA. You continue to bring nothing to the table.
I have been married long enough to see whats happening here and I apologize for not making this clear in my last post"your right and I am wrong, sorry dear"
you are wrong about one thing though I did bring this to the table Nostradumbass:142smilie :142smilie :142smilie
Good luck in your mission to rid the world of religion, Maybe you could start with Rev. Jesse Jackson or Rev. Al Sharpton:142smilie
Geez, what happened to the "Why all the anger" version of UGA12 that we knew and loved so much? ....I knew he couldn't stay that way for long in this forum.
My view: Buddy and Gmroz are both right.:SIB
I think I've frustrated him, Smurph. What I think becomes apparent is that the defenders of religion, when seriously challenged, have nothing to draw upon. It is not surprising to see UGA's argument quickly turn into namecalling because he holds a strong belief, but has absolutely nothing to back it up. That's frustrating, but it further illustrates my point that religion is nonsense.
Smurph, feel free to take a side....for the sake of the forum.
What does an atheist believe in? Just kind of wondering, is OK to sleep with another mans wife, to take whatever he or she wants, to lie, to cheat to get whatever he or she wants, if not why?. I'm wondering about the value system of the atheist for if there is no heaven or hell then what are the consequences of the atheist's actions, outside of civil law. Do atheist do much as far as "mans service to man" if so why? If an atheist see's someone drop a twenty dollar bill, do you pick it up and return it to the person if so why? How do Dad and Mom Atheist teach little Bobby and Suzy atheist what is right or wrong, or do they? If Bobby and Suzy ask mom and dad atheists if they can get married, what do mom and dad say and why? Are atheists decent human beings, if so why?
Agnostic with a Protestant background. All I really know for sure is that Islam is full of shit. I enjoy sunsets on the beach and making fun of Catholics.
Religion is not logical, but lack of a spiritual belief isn't either. Basically, life doesn't make much sense to begin with, so any thoughts on how we are got here and where we are headed will be equally incomprehensable.:shrug:
An atheist believes in humanity. That living a "good" life and making the most of it. Since there is no afterlife, it is important to live your mortal life to its fullest.
Do I think it is okay to sleep with another man's wife? Nope. Do I think it is okay to take whatever I want? Nope. To cheat to get whatever I want? Nope. Why? I choose not to. My education and experiences have taught me that those actions are not conducive to being a good person.
Belief in the supernatural, and/or a magic book are not necessary to hold these beliefs.
The threat of eternal damnation is unecessary for me to be a good person. I'm sorry it is for you. Perhaps it means I am more evolved as a human being than you.
"Mans service to man"? Atheists do a lot of service to man. For example, I donate to the DAV, the United Way, and The Ronald McDonald House. I do it because I like to think I am helping people. Once again, I don't need the "fear of god" or hell to make me do what I know is right. I'm sorry you do.
I pick it up and return it to them. I do it because that's what I would hope someone would do for me. Mind-blowing isn't it?
I think I've already covered this above.
Yes. They are "decent" human beings because they choose to be....unlike yourself. You live your life out of fear of punishment.
Ever seen a study on the percentage of believers vs non-believers amongst the prison population? Check it out.
Beleve me when I tell you that gmroz22 does not upset me and or anger me. I guess it was a failed attempt at humor. The funniest part is that because I feel peoples religious beliefs should be respected I am now a religious nut:shrug: The fact of the matter is I do not have a clue how the universe got here nor do I now how it will end. As you said religion is not logical and you can pick every one of them apart. At the same time those that say others are wrong while not having the answers themselves are just as bad.
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Nah not frustrated at all just curious how your opinions or beliefs (or lack of them) deserve anymore respect than any other citizen of America.
Sorry 22 but here is another wrong assumtion you have made. Unfortunantly for you I am not the religious type you would have me be. This is about personal beliefs. If you think religion is a sham great, if you think a man parted a sea then great, but when you think your beliefs are anymore important than anyone elses then you obviously can not be reasoned with.
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If i'm not mistaken (and i'm not), you're the 'religious' guy who defended the diocese of Boston habit of recycling their pedophile priests around to other parishes in the area instead of kicking them out after they got caught banging and molesting young boys, because of a 'shortage of priests' at the time.
I don't think Gmroz was around back then, but he would have loved that thread.
And you actually have the nerve to ask a barrage of questions towards somebody regarding honesty and character? :shrug:
Thanks for the link, gmroz. Nice debate, two against one. Looks like an old video of Stephen A. Smith debating the value of the Lakers.
Kosar, I was also the one who invited you to Mississippi to help with Red Cross during Hurricane Katrina missed ya. As far as Cardinal Law was concerned my only point was what a difficult position it would be to rat out your friends. I in no way condoned what happened there. If the implication was something other than that I apologize. As far as this post goes, I'm not throwing stones, was just wondering about some things.
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Kosar didn't the part where i called bin Laden a nutcase fit in your signature? You have learn well how to spin ones words. As a proud reader of the NY Post and a proud watcher of Fix News i see why. Why not put the whole thread in the signature instead of trying to get people inflammed from a small portion of what i said?:shrug:
Gary,
Stop the horses...hold up....whooaa...easy boy.
A biblical definition of "faiith" (remember the "leap?") -
Hebrews 11:1 - "Now faith is the substance of things hoped for, the evidence of things not seen."
In one of my recent posts, I said all Christians have a testimony. Well, that testimony is the affirmation or "the substance" of that thing or things that we hoped for. It is also the affirmation of the evidence of things not seen.
So when we Christians (defenders of Jesus Christ) are taken to task, this is what we draw upon. We don't need to debate theology (most of us don't do a good job of that anyway...especially me). We simply know that deep in our heart that our "leap" produced results in a most amazing way.
Stop the horses...hold up....whooaa...easy boy.
A biblical definition of "faiith" (remember the "leap?") -
Hebrews 11:1 - "Now faith is the substance of things hoped for, the evidence of things not seen."
In one of my recent posts, I said all Christians have a testimony. Well, that testimony is the affirmation or "the substance" of that thing or things that we hoped for. It is also the affirmation of the evidence of things not seen.
So when we Christians (defenders of Jesus Christ) are taken to task, this is what we draw upon. We don't need to debate theology (most of us don't do a good job of that anyway...especially me). We simply know that deep in our heart that our "leap" produced results in a most amazing way.
No, your point was that there was a priest shortage in the Boston area and that's why you 'understood' the diocese sending these disgusting priests to other parishes instead of having them sent to jail, or at the very least, kicked out of the 'brotherhood.'
As far as Katrina goes, were you jumping from roof to roof with Arrow, making things happen?
Thread from over 3 years ago.
http://www.madjacksports.com/forum/showthread.php?t=137149
http://www.madjacksports.com/forum/showthread.php?t=137149
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