College Sophomore stumps Bush

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i cant believe GWB doesnt know where exactly every dollar is spent

not sure why we want the government funding leftist, socialist professors spewing their indoctrination at our Colleges....lets let Jr. make the decision if college is worth it for him or her

in most cases, it is NOT worth it anymore....tech school or plain old hard work will get you farther than a 4 year degree

so then, why do we want to reinforce government-reliance instead of self-reliance especially for many for whom it is not in their best interest to get a 4 year degree in many fields when you can go farther with some skill training in with a tech degree and hard work

MOST kids waste 95% of their time at college anyway, including myself....i don't think we need the government to pay for such things
 
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Yep interesting website--you see who they draw--maybe Spy or Think Progress would like to report back just exactly how much was cut a where the cuts were--will that happen--wouldn't count on it.
Funny this site said nothing about---

President Bush Proposes Record $57 Billion for FY 2005 Education Budget
Largest dollar increase of any domestic agency
Proposed increases of $1 billion each for schools with disadvantaged children and special education students
http://www.ed.gov/news/pressreleases/2004/02/02022004.html

Back to GW visit to Kansas St--did anyone else see it from start to finish?

Thought it was quite interesting and was amazed at the cordial welcome the students gave him and the numerous rounds of applause he got from student body--not what I expected from a college campus.Questions were very good some tough none condecending. Wonder if any other network covered it from start to finish.
Somehow I think same routine would turn out quite different at Cal Berkley :)

What I wouldn't give to ask a few politicians one question each--on live TV.;)
 
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Hey the kid asked a good question. I was watching and was not surprised by the way he ducked the answer. But every question on Iraq he had the set answer ready to go. And his scare answer on SS when asked he answered there would be no money left for that young man. Such B S there is only 1.7 trillion in the fund. Even with the 3 trillion that has been borrowed. The money is there.
 

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Ahhh. HEEEEE'S BACK!

And of all things supporting that the Social Security system is in good working order. Just like old times!!!
 

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I don't think he was embarrassed DJV - I think he didn't know answer--and from doing search I can't find anything that would confirm it--here is search--you find me area that confirms it--all I can find is the liberal web blogs and and those that latch on the tit.
You noticed none of these sites or Spy can or attempt to confirm
it.
google search--- Some new sites here for you to add to your daily news spy :)
http://www.google.com/search?source...q=12.7+billion+dollars+was+cut+from+education

"The money is there"
Do you REALLY want to debate that issue--if so I'll get you reports from left- right or gov to totally destroy that theory.
 
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Its real easy

Its real easy

to go to a partisan website and start a post. That is just ignorant. GWB has spent more on education than any other sitting president. He has spent so much on domestic as well as foreign programs that he has many conservatives angered with him. I like most of his policies, but i wish he would be more of a fiscally responsible conservative.
 

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Guys threw the years they all do it. When you don't want foot in mouth, Bush has been good at doing it. Or want to move on just to duck and cover. Give the blow off answer.
 

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Apparently Spytheweb can't find and the blog sites don't want to report where the 12.7 Billion cut was derived--

Lets take a look at Spy's own link he posted-- and find out just how deceptive they are and how they prey on those that take what they say as gospel

http://thinkprogress.org/2006/01/23...re-stumps-bush/

in this link is their pitch--


If you are on actual site it has link under--$12.7 billion in cuts to education programs--however if one does click on this link this is what they find---- http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2005/12/21/AR2005122100748.html

"EDUCATION: Cuts $12.7 billion for education programs by fixing interest rates on student loans at 6.8 percent, even if commercial rates are lower. The change comes amid rising tuition costs at colleges and universities."

So why don't they tell you the facts of how the cuts were derived in all their blogs itstead of using their standard of misinformation technique (half quotes)----because they want you to assume he his cutting out actual benefits--not putting cap on interest rates.

no wonder Bush was stumped---every swinging liberal blog jumped on generic phrase--with their lemmings reposted it--1st clue of deceit with either party blogs is when they throw generic accusation with a hint of supporting facts.

--and I wonder why they left this info out of their (partial quote) source of reference--

"The Senate also approved a huge spending bill to fund fiscal 2006 health, education and labor programs, as well as defense authorization legislation and a six-month extension of the USA Patriot Act."
 
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Got that wrong. Secreted in the "reconciliation package" that the administration and the Republican majority in Congress are pushing is a staggering $12.7 billion cut in student loan programs?the largest cut in history.

That bulk of that cut will be paid in the form of higher interest rates and fees paid by students and their parents. On average, students will face an additional $2,000 in interest payments; parents an additional $3,000.

As for private lenders that provide student loans?they'll make out just fine. Rather than significantly cutting subsidies to private lenders, Rep. John Boehner?an architect of this legislation and a candidate for House majority leader?targeted working families for the cuts. As The Chronicle of Higher Education reports, Boehner met in December with private student lenders, who contribute handsomely to his campaigns, and said: "Relax. Stay calm. At the end of the day, I believe you'll be at least satisfied, or even perhaps happy. Know that I have all of you in my two trusted hands."

Those "trusted hands" don't protect students like Tiffany Cooper, or their parents. An additional $2,000 in costs doesn't seem like much to legislators like Boehner, who collect more in individual checks from well-heeled contributors. But for working families struggling to make ends meet, it cruelly adds to already growing burdens. College tuitions have gone up a staggering 40 percent in the last five years. State support for public universities has been cut. The Republican Congress, violating a promise Bush made while campaigning, has frozen maximum Pell Grants at the same level for the fourth straight year. The vast majority of students now borrow to help finance college. The average loan burden a student carries upon graduation is more than $19,000. Students from working families have little choice but to pile up debt, even while working part-time and piecing together grant opportunities.
 

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It is stunningly clear that Bush and the Republican Congress have quit on the kids. The questioner at Kansas State was correct. In December, the Senate passed a $12.7 billion cut in loan aid, which would force college students and their families to pay much higher interest rates on their loans. Pell grants would remain capped at $4,050 for the fourth straight year, further depressing a purchasing power which has declined, according to the American Council on Education, from covering 84 percent of the cost of a public four-year college in 1972 to 34 percent today.
 

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Don't have shit wrong--they did the ole chop the source ala Michael Moore--putting up part they wanted the lemmings to bite on and pass on--and chopped out what they didn't want them to see--follow your above links and see the facts.
 
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