COME ON SERIOUSLY...

Glenn Quagmire

Registered User
Forum Member
Nov 15, 2005
7,067
0
0
DeDe said:
Glenn, your post is right on; it is a shame that bad oficiating happened in that game, the superbowl.
Seattle had alot of bad calls esp on every big play. that game disgusted me

Yeah, it was a rough one alright. Not only did I lose a lot of money on that game but I've been a Seahawks fan my whole life, so it wasn't a great day to say the least. I read on ESPN today that the ref that called the PI on Jackson grew up in Pittsburgh and said he was a Pitt fan growing up? Wow. Like I said before I'm not one of those conspiracy theory, the game was fixed kind of guys, but this is NOT good for the NFL. Maybe I'm wrong, but this could turn into a major shitstorm if the NFL doesn't whip out some fancy damage control pronto. They have a lot of questions to answer and they're losing A LOT of credibility with the way officiating has taken a nosedive recently.
 

DeDe

Registered User
Forum Member
Apr 9, 2002
1,234
2
0
Glenn Quagmire said:
Yeah, it was a rough one alright. Not only did I lose a lot of money on that game but I've been a Seahawks fan my whole life, so it wasn't a great day to say the least. I read on ESPN today that the ref that called the PI on Jackson grew up in Pittsburgh and said he was a Pitt fan growing up? Wow. Like I said before I'm not one of those conspiracy theory, the game was fixed kind of guys, but this is NOT good for the NFL. Maybe I'm wrong, but this could turn into a major shitstorm if the NFL doesn't whip out some fancy damage control pronto. They have a lot of questions to answer and they're losing A LOT of credibility with the way officiating has taken a nosedive recently.
I know, after reading here that the ref was from pitt..well..now u know

this past season, the offic was horrible but in the superbowl, many bad calls and all against seattle, unreal
losing a game is one thing but when u know u had the right side and offic helped pitt;
i think there is more talk about the offic than on the steelers winning! disgraceful bowl,
 

Glenn Quagmire

Registered User
Forum Member
Nov 15, 2005
7,067
0
0
DeDe i think there is more talk about the offic than on the steelers winning! disgraceful bowl said:
I'm glad you brought this up. For people who think I'm just mad because Seattle lost, it goes much deeper than that. I respect what Pitt did this offseason. They worked their ASSES off to get to the SB. They were first 6 seed EVER to win a SB. That's pretty damn impressive. And what happens when they win it? The idiot zebras, because of their pathetic officiating, get more ink than they do. It's a disgrace. One of my best friends is a lifelong Pitt fan. I talked to him yesterday and the first words out of his mouth were, "This f&#$ing sucks!" So I asked him what he was talking about. He went on to say he's waited his whole life for his team to win a SB and when they finally do they don't get any credit because the refs crapped the bed and that's all anyone can talk about. Obviously Pitt fans are happier than Seattle fans but they aren't getting the type of praise a SB champion should. All because of the refs...
 
Last edited:

Glenn Quagmire

Registered User
Forum Member
Nov 15, 2005
7,067
0
0
DeDe said:
i think there is more talk about the offic than on the steelers winning! disgraceful bowl,


I'm glad you brought this up. For people who think I'm just mad because Seattle lost, it goes much deeper than that. I respect what Pitt did this offseason. They worked their ASSES off to get to the SB. They were first 6 seed EVER to win a SB. That's pretty damn impressive. And what happens when they win it? The idiot zebras, because of their pathetic officiating, get more ink than they do. It's a disgrace. One of my best friends is a lifelong Pitt fan. I talked to him yesterday and the first words out of his mouth were, "This f&#$ing sucks!" So I asked him what he was talking about. He went on to say he's waited his whole life for his team to win a SB and when they finally do they don't get any credit because the refs crapped the bed. Obviously Pitt fans are happier than Seattle fans but they are getting the type of praise a SB champion should. All because of the refs...
 

DeDe

Registered User
Forum Member
Apr 9, 2002
1,234
2
0
i do not think pitt deserved that win at all
bad game
 

DeDe

Registered User
Forum Member
Apr 9, 2002
1,234
2
0
Glen, that is all the talk and some of my buddies who had pitt said the same thing..they were LUCKy!! REF helped them and alot of this credit is to the refs!! pitt looked bad to me although in the playoffs they looked great and in this game, flat..sad that the refes decided this one

i hope we hear alot about this ref from pitt..
 

Glenn Quagmire

Registered User
Forum Member
Nov 15, 2005
7,067
0
0
DeDe said:
i do not think pitt deserved that win at all
bad game

I'm not saying they outplayed Seattle. My point was just that it's a shame that the winner of the SB is getting upstaged by the idiot refs. It should NEVER be this way.
 

Kazaam

The Genie
Forum Member
Jan 30, 2006
560
1
0
In A Bottle
First of all I would like to say I am not a fan of either team and will take my under winner. Neither team played well at all!!! I had to work Super Bowl Night so I taped the game. After hearing it on the radio I had to watch it the next day. Being neutral I think Seat did commit most of those "phantom" penalties. Also, they could not complete drives on short fields. Too many missed opportunities!! Pitt played horrible for most of the game, but converted on 4 or 5 plays, that was the difference. How often do you see in the regular season a team totally out played by another team and still lose and not cover? Often! Pitt got out played but seemed to be the better team that day. Made it count when they needed to. Pitt did not bring their A game. Roth missed open guys all over the place w/bad throws. He let Seat back into the game w/INT that should have made the game 21 to 3 instead of 14 to 10. Too many missed opportunities for Seat!!! Pitt D held Seat several times w/out the aid of penalties; Seat D could not, giving up at least two huge plays Parker run and Reverse pass. I think Seat and Holmgren should have accepted the lose a bit more graciously. Looks like whining.
 

thom24ad

UDFlyers
Forum Member
Sep 29, 2005
2,124
0
0
46
Columbus, OH
Glenn,

Your right in the aspect that the refs were a huge influence in game momentum...but I hate this aspect of the lack of personal accountability...I mean come on...well about the play where it was 3rd and 36 and Pitt converts the first down...where Parker breaks a 79 yard TD on that great run defense...or my God the fact that they allowed Randell El throw a TD pass to a wide open Hines Ward...when this team is known for trick plays...how could you let that happen...And well about all the dropped passes which in previous years Seattle has been known for...And there were calls on Pitt I mean they were penalized their first two drives of the game with three and outs...where was Seattle's capitalzation with that good field position.

As for the push off after watching the play how could you say he didn't extend his arm and make contact with Pitts DB on his chest...that did happen which is a pass interference...now was it pitty-pat, once again yes but when you do it right in front of the ref four yards away its going to get called...Well about DJ taking the personal blame of doing that when it wasn't even needed to make the play...Pitts DB's body was out of position turned the opposite way of DJ when DJ made the contact...once DJ made the cut back toward the middle of the field...he already had him beat and the DB was defenseless to make any kind of play on that ball...so the question I have to ask is DJ why even extend that arm and make contact with the DB?...Especially when that kind of play has been an issue that the refs addressed before the season and even announced they were going to focus on making those calls this season...I'm sure DJ wasn't the first player called with that foul this season...it was a lack of focus by DJ if you ask me

Yes the refs should be held accountable for bad calls and in this case they are with all the heat they have been taking by the media and Seattle fans...but overall I bet on Pitt and as a Browns fan I'm no where near a Pitt fan or Seattle fan but honestly Seattle's defense gave up big plays where they shouldn't have and they should hold themselves accountable not just the refs...hey every team has those games where things just don't go their way and that was one of those games for Seattle
 
Last edited:

edludes

Registered User
Forum Member
Oct 25, 2001
3,592
38
0
alaska
Which part of the stats justifies the victory?

Which part of the stats justifies the victory?

The fans with the
pittburg avatars notwithstanding,the fact is a team wih a qb rating of 22,loses the turnover battle,has less time of possession and less yardage has never before won the superbowl.A team with that low of a qb rating wins 3% of the time in the regular season and NEVER before in the playoffs!Enjoy your stolen victory Steelers fans.The thumb this ring belongs on is the referees.The guy who let the Steelers db call his own penatly on the phantom interference call was a pittsburg native who in his hs yearbook said he was a Steelers fan.HMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM maybe thats how they won despite being outplayed in every important statistical catagory except the adjusted scoreboard.
 

thom24ad

UDFlyers
Forum Member
Sep 29, 2005
2,124
0
0
46
Columbus, OH
edludes said:
The guy who let the Steelers db call his own penatly on the phantom interference call

Plain and simple Jackson made contact with the DB right in front of the ref...Steelers fans would of had just as much as a gripe with a no-call there...that would could have gone either way...try blaming the WR would made the unnecessary contact instead of the ref...if DJ doesn't make the contact he still makes that catch and then there is no issue
 

Glenn Quagmire

Registered User
Forum Member
Nov 15, 2005
7,067
0
0
thom24ad said:
Glenn,

Your right in the aspect that the refs were a huge influence in game momentum...but I hate this aspect of the lack of personal accountability...I mean come on...well about the play where it was 3rd and 36 and Pitt converts the first down...where Parker breaks a 79 yard TD on that great run defense...or my God the fact that they allowed Randell El throw a TD pass to a wide open Hines Ward...when this team is known for trick plays...how could you let that happen...And well about all the dropped passes which in previous years Seattle has been known for...And there were calls on Pitt I mean they were penalized their first two drives of the game with three and outs...where was Seattle's capitalzation with that good field position.

As for the push off after watching the play how could you say he didn't extend his arm and make contact with Pitts DB on his chest...that did happen which is a pass interference...now was it pitty-pat, once again yes but when you do it right in front of the ref four yards away its going to get called...Well about DJ taking the personal blame of doing that when it wasn't even needed to make the play...Pitts DB's body was out of position turned the opposite way of DJ when DJ made the contact...once DJ made the cut back toward the middle of the field...he already had him beat and the DB was defenseless to make any kind of play on that ball...so the question I have to ask is DJ why even extend that arm and make contact with the DB?...Especially when that kind of play has been an issue that the refs addressed before the season and even announced they were going to focus on making those calls this season...I'm sure DJ wasn't the first player called with that foul this season...it was a lack of focus by DJ if you ask me

Yes the refs should be held accountable for bad calls and in this case they are with all the heat they have been taking by the media and Seattle fans...but overall I bet on Pitt and as a Browns fan I'm no where near a Pitt fan or Seattle fan but honestly Seattle's defense gave up big plays where they shouldn't have and they should hold themselves accountable not just the refs...hey every team has those games where things just don't go their way and that was one of those games for Seattle

Thom,

I completely agree with you that Seattle didn't capitalize on opportunities and they MUST share in the blame for the loss. Absolutely. And I've never said they would have won had the officiating been better or anything like that. I just don't believe for a second that the game wouldn't have been different if the officiating hadn't sucked so bad. Maybe Pitt still wins, but if they do and the game is called fairly I can live with that. It's hard to swallow when EVERY questionable call goes against Seattle. And they weren't little 5 yard offsides penalties, they were penalties that completely changed the momentum of the game. I don't care how good a team is, they can only overcome so much adversity. I think everyone knows that football isn't just physical, it has a lot to do with momentum and emotion as well. Those big calls took a toll on Seattle.

And this is my problem... let's just say they were warranted in making all of those ticky-tack calls. That shouldn't happen in a SB because the refs shouldn't be very visible, but let's just say that was their plan. Ok, so where were all the calls on Pitt? They weren't called for holding ONCE?! I saw a few blatant holds on Pitt that weren't called, so why weren't they called if the refs were going to call such a tight game? They certainly didn't have a problem blowing the whistle on Seattle on close plays. Yet Pitt didn't get a single flag thrown on them in the last 3 1/2 quarters??? Wow.

As for D-Jack, I've seen that play a thousand times and still think it's a no-call. I never said he didn't make contact. He clearly put his hand on the guy's chest. But I don't see much of a push-off or separation gained on the play. I completely agree with you that he had the guy beat and didn't need to put his hand out, but it's not like he pushed the guy hard to gain separation. The guy wasn't going to make the play. It was going to be a TD. It didn't need to be called in my opinion. To me it's kind of the equivalent of a DB placing his hand on WR's back. As long as he doesn't push, that shouldn't be called. It's a very ticky-tack call and I don't think it needed to be made. And it's even worse that the call wasn't made until after the Pitt player threw a hissy fit. Obviously just my opinon though.

And I've only mentioned the obvious calls that everyone is talking about. What about Big Ben being able to call that timeout after the play clock had wound down? Or the D-Jack catch towards the end of the half that was close to being a TD? Yeah, it looked like he went out before getting his 2nd foot in, but he was also very close to hitting the pylon. That doesn't even get reviewed in the Super Bowl?!

Again, I DO hold the Seahawks responsible for not making plays. I just don't understand why so many people use the "you can't blame the refs because the Seahawks made mistakes" excuse. The Seahawks deserve blame and so do the refs in my opinion. To have that many huge, questionable calls go against one team in a SB is embarrassing to the league. I was VERY disgusted with the Polamalu "incompletion" ruling in the Indy game and it's only gotten worse.

All in all I don't think I'm really disagreeing with you on much. I do blame the Seahawks. I do give Pitt credit for making HUGE plays. I just can't stomach how one-sided the officiating was. Could Seattle have won the game despite all the bad calls against them? Sure. But why should the deck be stacked against them in the first place?
 

thom24ad

UDFlyers
Forum Member
Sep 29, 2005
2,124
0
0
46
Columbus, OH
all very good points and its all tough to argue...and your right we shouldn't even be having this argument about the refs
 

Glenn Quagmire

Registered User
Forum Member
Nov 15, 2005
7,067
0
0
thom24ad said:
all very good points and its all tough to argue...and your right we shouldn't even be having this argument about the refs

Sorry Thom, didn't mean to get worked up on the subject. Can we at least agree on the fact that Mick Jagger was rockin' the belly shirt?!
:mj07: Ok, maybe not.

In other news, are you back on the hoops betting train?! I saw you in the hoops forum the other day. I've gotten my ass handed to me this year, with the exception of Pac -10 play. How have you fared so far?
 

thom24ad

UDFlyers
Forum Member
Sep 29, 2005
2,124
0
0
46
Columbus, OH
Glenn Quagmire said:
Sorry Thom, didn't mean to get worked up on the subject. Can we at least agree on the fact that Mick Jagger was rockin' the belly shirt?!
:mj07: Ok, maybe not.

In other news, are you back on the hoops betting train?! I saw you in the hoops forum the other day. I've gotten my ass handed to me this year, with the exception of Pac -10 play. How have you fared so far?

Not good by any means what so ever...I keep losing on missed free throws...part of the reason why I don't play b-ball too much...I only play games I'm watching or if I just get that itch
 
Bet on MyBookie
Top