Computer Certifications...MCSE, CCNA, etc...

[hellah10]

Well, the University wont give me credit for last semester since I left in March...and Iam not gonna pay out of my pocket to take the same fawking classes. Anyways, there are absolutley no jobs out there for people with Electrical Engineering Degrees....not in Toledo, Detroit, Cleveland, Cincy, or even Columbus! They want you to have at least 5-6 years experience...well I cant get the experience if I can even get my feet wet. I know alot of people un-employed right now with EE degrees...

anywaysss...

I left the administration building furious...and drove to a private school called "Professional Skills Inc." They specialize in the Medical and Computer Information area. Today, I went ahead and registered for the MCSE program which is a year and a half long It`s gonna cost me 15 grand there goes my hazardous pay It`ll be a class of about 12 - its all hands on, none of these bullshit classes you gotta take like...writing, english comp, anthropology, geography...etc....I feel as if I wasted my time at the Univeristy.

In this program you get..

A+/MCSE/MCSA/MCSA:Security/MCSE:Security/CCNA/CCDA

I know a few guys that went this route - and they got excellent paying jobs right from the get go. Seems like these days...degrees are just losing value.

Anybody here have these certifications..??

I heard MCSE is pretty damn hard

www.proskills.com

thanks
wooooooof

 

[marine]

Dude,
with a EE degree you need to drop the Nasty Guard and get on board with the submarines in the Navy!
Man, recruiters fall all over themselves trying to get to the EE kids.

If any of yer buds with EE degrees need jobs send them my way.

 

[hellah10]

dude, funny you bring that up...

In 2000 I asked if I could transfer to the Navy - even after I get out, they said no way in hell!! And that I should never ask that again or I get an Article 15

the fawk is up with that?

 

[marine]

LMAO... there is that whole "service pride" topic that people always piss and moan about.

Your NCO's are p*ssies - if that is who told you that.

YOu have every right to apply to transfer.

As for the article 15, tell them to shove the manual for courts-martial right up their candy@ss

 

[mgs4bama]

Make sure you go the 2003 route. I'm pretty sure you could still choose the 2000 certification path, but by all means, get the most up-to-date. I have my MCP and half way through taking the tests to complete my MCSE, Bill changed the rules and said that everyone had to get the upcoming certification and that the previous NT 4 cert would not be recognized. All hell broke loose from the thousands of folks who were in the process of receiving or had just received their NT 4 MCSEs, and he retracted the retirement. From that point I said that MR. Gates had gotten the last of my money. I was fortunate enough to have gotten a job because of my MCP cert and six years later am a Systems Administrator for a F500 company. Now my company is offering for me to update my cert to the new MCSA. Take my first test next week. Cert is well worth it. Experience STILL means more, but you want even get in the door nowdays without Microsoft's or Cisco's stamp of approval. Good Luck!!

 

[stomie]

15K is a waste of money. All of these classes do is follow books readily available at any book store. Just go buy the Microsoft MCSE set of 6 books for like $300. Then go to sites like cramsession.com and read some more. Take each test for $100 or so and you have your MCSE.

Remember, people are going to want experience in the computer field as well, not just paper MCSE's. Why not find a call center or help desk job to get some experience and learn the material on your own without shelling out $15K.

Take it from an MCSE, CCNP, A+

 

[hellah10]

I`d rather get the hands on work...

Ive never worked with Windows 2000/2003 before

besides - these guys have 100% job placement - unless you dont want a job within 50 miles of Toledo - so at least I know I`ll get a job..

 

[jroot]

hellah10...be careful with these places. i've worked with a lot of them and most promise100% placement. of course, some place you in a $12/hr. job upon graduation. i work in the IT industry and could not agree with stomie more....get some experience first and then decide if you still want to shell out the 15K. you could self study using CBT's or other means and pay about $100 per test for the six tests needed for the MCSE. there are TONS of paper MCSEs out there.

good luck.

 

[hellah10]

fellas..

I cant even get the experience....there are NO IT jobs out there for fresh fish like me. When I say no...I mean big cities like Detroit, Cleveland etc...There are a few in Indianapolis, but Iam not moving down there. They all want certifications and experience...every single one of them. I dont have either of them, not having the experience is not by choice..there just isnt any oppurtunities

and hell, 12 an hour...I`ll take it and work my way up...

 

[hellah10]

its either 15K on this..

or 15K on the rest of my time at Toledo..

and I know for a fact, there are NO EE jobs out there...guys with EE degrees are working at gastations!

 

[yak merchant]

Get the degree.

Get the degree.

Go unregister for those MCSE classes tomorrow. Spend the 15K on a degree. I don't care in what. Communications, Business, EE, under water basket weaving, whatever. You can get the books and get an MCSE on nights and weekends easy if you can pass Dynamics and Thermo. That 100% placement is great, but you are going to have the thickest glass ceiling you've ever seen in most IT departments without a college degree. Yeah you can make pretty good cabbage being the computer guy, but the guys that get the promotions will always have some sort of degree even if they can't turn on a computer. Hell show up at companies and ask to voluteer for experience while you finish your degree, once they see you have half a brain they'll start paying you even if it's low at first, and it's experience to put on your resume. As for MCSE's , my company is getting them at bargain prices in Houston. If you do get your MCSE, spend the time to take the two extra SQL Server tests. The MCDBA cert is worth alot more currently than any MCSE unless you have a billion years experience. An MCDBA with 2 years experience is golden right now. Just my two cents, and it's your call but the second best degree to have to get into the IT industry is an EE degree.