concrete vs asphalt

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anybody know a ballpark figure on the difference in cost for a driveway? per square foot cost if you know.

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concrete driveway 5 to 7 sg ft more the sg ft the cheaper you may get it for.

sound like alot of work going on , shit i come and do the work;)
 

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blacktop may be cheaper than concrete
but concrete may be better , if done right
 

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if you go with a concrete driveway make sure concrete is 4000psi and 6iches thick with wire and fiber mess and get the concrete seal with a sealer and make sure there expansion and control joints in the right spots;) you can alway add a color to the concrete:tongue and a four
iches stone base under the concrete and make sure the stone is tamp
 

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the joints may be saw cuts or with a tool jointer , if the joints are saw cut , you may went to clarlk the joints after the concrete is done
 

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as far as the expansion do not use the fiber expansion it will fall apart , use the new stuff its made out old tire. it will last for ever;) some people use the cedar wood for expansion , and were you come from they may use tree logs:tongue
 
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make sure the expansion is at least every 20 foot and control joints at least every 10 feet in the driveway , how long is the driveway going to be, is this going to be in a new devopement or your own lott
 
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if you are going to have a basement go with concrete wall not cinder block wall
concrete is better , and make sure the wall are water prove if under grade;)
 

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My neighbor in Rhode Island had a new driveway installed so when it snowed, the snow would always melt on the asphalt.

Never had to shovel again!!!!

With the snow you get Jack, that may be an option. Just not sure of the cost!!!
 

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I've been in the concrete biz for 20 years and my brother in law's family owns one of the biggest asphalt plants in Kansas City. Before you start trying to determine the difference in the cost between the two, you need to decide how much you want to screw with it in the future. If concrete is poured the right way, the extra money you spend on the concrete driveway vs. asphalt will seem like a drop in the bucket when you start adding up all of the times you have to seal and maintain the asphalt if you live in this house for a long time. I agree with Raymond on most points, except I always use rebar on 24"-30" centers instead of wire mesh and make sure it is pulled up into the concrete. Some contractors will place the rebar or mesh on the ground before pouring, and never pull it up into the middle of the concrete where it belongs. It does no good leaving it on the ground below the concrete pour.

I would like to be getting the prices Raymond is getting as new construction prices around here are going for around $3.50 per sq. ft. I guess you also have to consider the length of the driveway. If you have a long driveway, it may be cost prohibitive to do the whole thing in concrete. If it is, do the area coming out of your garage with concrete and the remainder in asphalt.

The whole key to doing concrete the "right" way is not to let the contractor pour the concrete very wet. The wetter they pour it, the easier it is, but it takes all of the durability out of the concrete. If you have ever seen driveways with the top coming off and flaking, it is probably because it was poured to wet. No more than a six inch slump IMO.

Good Luck
 

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you can also put heater under the concrete to melt the snow , i have ever done it put it can be done, rebar would not hurt , but it may cost more.
 

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Captain Crunch good point the more water in concrete its will lose strenght

4slump if it gets hard, get hard with it:D
 

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shit downtown philly i get 10 to 15 dollars a square foot to remove and replace

but philly is a union type of town:D
 
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