Conference Finals

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Glad you like the Griz HH this was my under the radar team. Tonight they take care of business Mem +5,5 for me and sprinkle a little on the ML. Mem has lost the 1st game in all there series this year, tonight is bounce back time. Zig-Zag

PS Great read HH thanks hopefully we can cash more tickets next yr together

The Grizzlies are 10-3 SU and ATS under Hollins when they are playing the same team back-to-back after losing the first meeting, so he is a good adjuster.

As far as the zig-zag, I have only been using that with home favorites coming off a loss. Playoff road dogs show a slight negative trend (only cover 47.7%), and the Grizzlies are 1-6 SU (-9.1) and 3-4 ATS since the 2004 playoffs. I wouldn't use that as a gauge either way really, but... I read a lot about the Grizzlies practice and their post-game interviews were certainly a positive sign. Sometimes when teams have SUCH a good outing as the Spurs did (1.21 ppp against a team that defensively gave up only 100.3 ppp on the season), there is room for a letdown, in that the team feels confident in their schemes and makes little to no adjustments, and the style is combated with the other team's adjustments..

Hopefully it is a good, competitive game. Best of luck!
 

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that Hibbert/Melo block was the moment that sealed the deal and swung the game back to Indy..not that the series outcome would have been different but if there is a game 7 anything can happen...Hippo, please give us your read on the Indy/Heat series...

I agree on the block. Defining moment for Indy.

My read on the Heat series is... OK, well I will try to find some time to work on it. I have been avoiding it, haha.

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Glad you like the Griz HH this was my under the radar team. Tonight they take care of business Mem +5,5 for me and sprinkle a little on the ML. Mem has lost the 1st game in all there series this year, tonight is bounce back time. Zig-Zag

PS Great read HH thanks hopefully we can cash more tickets next yr together

Good call on Memphis + points - I thought it was over in the third quarter, but they fought and clawed back. Not over until the buzzer sounds!

Will definitely be playing them again in their first home game (zig-zag home favs off loss). Despite the loss, I like the momentum they are taking home, too. Go Grizz

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Pacers-Heat

The Heat will get their first true test in this post-season against the surging Pacers. In the first round, the Heat played against the only team in the playoffs with a losing record, and in the second round they faced a completely depleted Bulls team. A major problem with the Heat this season has been their complacency against opponents. In many games, they just go through the motions until crunch time, when they turn up their intensity. The Pacers may be able to exploit this mindset at the start of this series, if the Heat do not come off their lay-off completely engaged.

The Pacers defense is textbook. Their defensive schemes are extremely impressive and they have the perfect lineup to execute them to perfection. George and Hibbert have emerged as two of the best defenders in the league. In their three meetings this season, the Pacers limited Miami to just 15.7 threes per game, down 6.2 from their average attempts. The Pacers were the second best team in the league in three point attempts allowed, and second best in corner threes allowed, while giving up a league best 32.6% to corner shooters (the best shot in basketball). However, the Heat have the most efficient offense in the league, and their multiple weapons will be very difficult to stop. Bosh is a huge factor in this series, with his ability to spread the floor and create space for other players to drive and finish, or drive and kick. Bosh is the second best high-volume mid-range shooter in the league, hitting 50.2%. His ability to knock down jumpers can bring the bigs for the Pacers out of the paint and create valuable space. It will be interesting to see how Vogel counters this, because Hibbert?s inside protection has been key to their success this season. The Pacers will need to keep Hibbert down low and funnel all action towards him, and he needs to stay out of foul trouble, which may be difficult against star-happy refs. But, the Pacers are 8-1 this postseason when they score more than 80 points, which shows just how strong their defensive pressure can be, and it takes some pressure away from their offense.

What has not been textbook is the Pacer's offense. They are prone to offensive droughts, as was clearly on display in game two against the Knicks, when they were outscored 30-2 in a stretch that started in the third quarter. The Heat had a great defense this season, allowing 100.5 points per 100 possessions, but they have really turned their defense up in the postseason, leading all teams with a rating of 93.4 per 100 possessions. The Pacers are not over reliant on one player to create scoring, which is a great strength of their team. In the last series, each of their starters was a high scorer in a game and each one averaged in double figures, showing their offensive balance. ?Coach is really relying on us five to get things done and we?re playing more minutes,? said Roy Hibbert, ?but we?re a young team and we can handle it.? However, beyond the starting five, they are very weak. If Hibbert or George get into foul trouble, there is no one to step in and fill these holes. During this post-season, the starters rating for the Pacers is +80 and when any one starter is out of the lineup, the Pacers rating is -49.

Indiana needs to continue their rebounding dominance in order to even out the possession margin and have a chance at pulling an upset in this series. Miami?s addition of Birdman is huge for them in this regard. But this season against the Heat, the Pacers rebounded 33.3% of available offensive rebounds, and 57.8% of available rebounds. They effectively limited the Heat?s ability to transition, as they averaged only 4.3 fast break points per game. But the Heat maintain their possession margin in other ways. The Pacers were the second worst team in the league this season in turnovers per possession, and this was very evident in the last series against the Knicks. For the Pacers to have a chance, they need to cut their turnover rate down. Way down. This will be especially difficult against the Heat, who like to pressure the ball. Their high court traps against the small point guards of the Pacers could prove problematic. Even George had problems this season splitting traps - earlier this season Vogel told him he was not allowed to attempt to split traps anymore because he turned it over nearly 70% of the time. The guards for the Pacers are going to have to successfully slip these long-armed traps and find open players. If they can, players like West and Hibbert will thrive. West was very effective against the Heat this season, averaging 22.7 points, 7.7 rebounds, and shooting 65.8% from the field. The Pacers also need to continue to get to the free-throw line at a high rate, by staying aggressive and driving inside.

Spoelstra is a great coach, and Lebron James is the MVP. Bill Simmons recently characterized Paul George as a ?poor man?s Lebron James?, which is fitting. He does a little bit of everything and is an excellent player, but Lebron is just unmatched in the league today with his all-around set of skills. Combine that with a lethal supporting cast, and it is a tough combination to break.

The Pacers are a young team, and it is easy to forget sometimes that they are playing without their leader, Granger. The Pacers have a brilliant future ahead of them, and this will be a step up the learning curve. Only one player on their roster has appeared in a conference finals game. But the Heat have all the elements of a championship team. This will be the fifth appearance by Wade and Haslem in the Eastern Conference Finals in the last nine years. It is Lebron?s fifth appearance in the last seven years. It is Miami?s third straight. The Pacers will have their chance down the road, but this season it appears that the Heat are completely engaged in winning a title, and it will be tough for any opponent to get in their way.


My prediction: Heat in 6
 

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And for the record, I hope I'm wrong.

Go Pacers

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2 things stood out to me at the end of OT in game 1

1 was obvious - how did Vogel not learn his lesson re: taking Hibbert out after James made the 1st uncontested layup????????????? I can give him a pass on the 1st one but to not make that adjustment based on 2nd to last possession is kind of mind boggling


2 - what in the heavens' name was David West doing on the 2nd to last possession? move your feet and give some help!!! to take that weak swipe at the ball knowing that Hibbert was out and there was no help on the backside is inexcusable as well - forget who he was guarding but I'm sure a kick out from Lebron for a jumpshot by whoever that was would have been better than uncontested layup - and not only that, but West was AWFUL during the entire OT period, missing easy shots and going 0-fer (I think) at the FT line


anyway, hate to see the game end like that - imo will be hard for the Pacers to overcome this in the series given how it all went down -
 

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1 - If you watched the end of the Knicks game 6, he did the same thing. I was losing it at the end of that game, literally yelling at my TV - "What are you doing?" - and he also took Stephenson out for a possession at the end of that game when he was on fire. I understand what he was trying to do in this game, but at the same time, I don't understand. He wanted a quicker line-up in to guard against Bosh's jumper, but then they switched everything anyway, so Hibbert could have been in and still been down low, staying with a man. Here are my main issues:

Why go away from what has been working all game? You have played a great defensive game - why change with the last possession? Indiana is one of the best teams in the league at fighting through screens, but now they are switching everything, and bringing in players that warmed the bench for much of the game? And by the way, Young is a defensive liability, so not sure what upside there is to having him in. But, you have played 53 minutes and are in the lead, so WHY CHANGE NOW? And also, don't put in a line-up worrying about #2 beating you with a jump shot. Contest against their number one option - if Bosh beats you with a jump shot, you live with that.

But beyond questioning the coach (who I think is one of the best in the league), really the fault lies with Paul George. He played the ball way too aggressively and allowed one of the best players in the league to drive right by him for a high percentage shot. Make him shoot a jump shot.

2 - I'm not sure that was really West's fault. Did you see how pissed he got at someone?? after the play? First, Hill and George switched on the screen, which was bad for them and good for Lebron, because he took full advantage of Hill. Second, I think the weakside defender that was playing the baseline should have come in to give help once Lebron blew past Hill, and the rest of the defenders would have rotated over to help on the perimeter players. I can't tell who it was by the film - I think it was Young, again. And absolutely, you live with anyone else beating you with a jump shot and put two defenders on Lebron in the paint. West was bad in OT, but hard to fault him much - he had a great game otherwise.



A young team, young coach, and this type of game was all about lessons learned, however painful that was for me to watch as a fan of the game. Will be very interesting to see how they fight in the next game. I love this team and coach, and they sure looked pretty good in game one. But, if it ends up being a close series, this is definitely the one they will look back on with regret. I wonder how much sleep the coaching staff lost last night...


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1 - If you watched the end of the Knicks game 6, he did the same thing. I was losing it at the end of that game, literally yelling at my TV - "What are you doing?" - and he also took Stephenson out for a possession at the end of that game when he was on fire. I understand what he was trying to do in this game, but at the same time, I don't understand. He wanted a quicker line-up in to guard against Bosh's jumper, but then they switched everything anyway, so Hibbert could have been in and still been down low, staying with a man. Here are my main issues:

Why go away from what has been working all game? You have played a great defensive game - why change with the last possession? Indiana is one of the best teams in the league at fighting through screens, but now they are switching everything, and bringing in players that warmed the bench for much of the game? And by the way, Young is a defensive liability, so not sure what upside there is to having him in. But, you have played 53 minutes and are in the lead, so WHY CHANGE NOW? And also, don't put in a line-up worrying about #2 beating you with a jump shot. Contest against their number one option - if Bosh beats you with a jump shot, you live with that.

But beyond questioning the coach (who I think is one of the best in the league), really the fault lies with Paul George. He played the ball way too aggressively and allowed one of the best players in the league to drive right by him for a high percentage shot. Make him shoot a jump shot.

2 - I'm not sure that was really West's fault. Did you see how pissed he got at someone?? after the play? First, Hill and George switched on the screen, which was bad for them and good for Lebron, because he took full advantage of Hill. Second, I think the weakside defender that was playing the baseline should have come in to give help once Lebron blew past Hill, and the rest of the defenders would have rotated over to help on the perimeter players. I can't tell who it was by the film - I think it was Young, again. And absolutely, you live with anyone else beating you with a jump shot and put two defenders on Lebron in the paint. West was bad in OT, but hard to fault him much - he had a great game otherwise.



A young team, young coach, and this type of game was all about lessons learned, however painful that was for me to watch as a fan of the game. Will be very interesting to see how they fight in the next game. I love this team and coach, and they sure looked pretty good in game one. But, if it ends up being a close series, this is definitely the one they will look back on with regret. I wonder how much sleep the coaching staff lost last night...


Good stuff - Cheers



HH - have you ever seen a bball play where David West wasn't mad at someone after the play's completion?

Whether it be a teammate, opponent, referee, concession worker or fan in attendance DWest is always pissed at someone - agree he had a good game but when it came time to step it up he didn't

oh well, just always pulling against the NBA's divas, and although CPIII and D12 have taken over the role as the league's biggest offenders in this area, I simply cannot root for this Miami team - LeBron is easily the best in the game and by the time it's all said and done he may be regarded as the GOAT, but his true colors came out during his move to Miami and though I used to be a big fan I realize that the wool had been pulled over my eyes the whole time regarding the type of person LBJ was and is - needless to say I was ultra frustrated with the ease that the Pacers gave up this game in the last 2 seconds




As always, good luck


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