Congrats to the Pats....But if they really are a dynasty the why???

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Have they never been dominant and destroyed the other team in the Super Bowl. It seems to me they never really dominate in the SB. Close games always.......

San Fran won a few SB's in impressive fashion.....
Pittsburgh won SB's in impressive fashion........

Just an observation.........

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Have they never been dominant and destroyed the other team in the Super Bowl. It seems to me they never really dominate in the SB. Close games always.......

San Fran won a few SB's in impressive fashion.....
Pittsburgh won SB's in impressive fashion........

Just an observation.........

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It's not how you win. It's simply called WINNING.
 

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It's not how you win. It's simply called WINNING.

I agree........but I find it kind of unreal that they have struggled so hard to win these Super Bowls.......its like even when they win they never really dominate....

And I could understand it more if they always came in as a 1-3 point favorite.......but they have been in Supe Bowls when they were favored by DD (Giants).......TD favs (Carolina) ......then either lost or struggled to win.
 

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Their first win was as a 14 point dog.

There is no possible way to doubt Brady as the greatest, and Happy Bill, too. None.
 

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1-3 vs the NFC east
1-5 as an org vs NFC east/central

They clean up vs the panziez in the south and west

Losers in my book!

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2 out of the last 3 and like 5 out of 8 or something how can you say they are not a dynasty?
 

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Only because they play in the AFC east, any team that plays in that division would be a dynasty :00x32:00x33:hitwithro
 

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They should rename the trophy the Brady/Belichick Super Bowl Championship Trophy!:0008
 

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Only because they play in the AFC east, any team that plays in that division would be a dynasty :00x32:00x33:hitwithro

Pats record outside of the AFCE with Brady at QB:

2018: 6-4
2017: 8-2
2016: 9-1
2015: 8-2
2014: 8-2
2013: 8-2
2012: 6-4
2011: 8-2
2010: 9-1
2009: 6-4
2007: 10-0
2006: 8-2
2005: 5-5
2004: 9-1
2003: 9-1
2002: 5-5
2001: 7-3

Average non-division wins per season:

Brady - 7.87
Manning - 6.77
Brees - 6.07
Roethlisberger - 5.73
Rodgers- 5.63

*Brees is from 2006-present
*Manning from ?02-?11, ?13-?15

It ain't the division
 

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Pats record outside of the AFCE with Brady at QB:

2018: 6-4
2017: 8-2
2016: 9-1
2015: 8-2
2014: 8-2
2013: 8-2
2012: 6-4
2011: 8-2
2010: 9-1
2009: 6-4
2007: 10-0
2006: 8-2
2005: 5-5
2004: 9-1
2003: 9-1
2002: 5-5
2001: 7-3

Average non-division wins per season:

Brady - 7.87
Manning - 6.77
Brees - 6.07
Roethlisberger - 5.73
Rodgers- 5.63

*Brees is from 2006-present
*Manning from ?02-?11, ?13-?15

It ain't the division
I don't think it's that they arent able to win outside the division.....its that they are essentially guaranteed a 1st round bye that makes playing in the EAst such an advantage....

Guaranteed 5-6 wins a year since early 2000s.....

That basically guarantees at least a 1st round bye



That said I dont know if it would much matter. Brady and hoodie are best to ever do it.

But having to play one less game each playoffs and usually always at home does help immensely

If they played in say the North and had to play pitt/cinci/Baltimore 6xs a year they wouldnt have had as many 1st place seeds, but hard to argue they wouldnt have made it to the big game regardless



As a Pat's fan let me ask....who do you think is more crucial....bill or brady?

Would Brady have won 6 with any coach? Would bill have won 6 with any QB? Probably not but who woulda won more without the other?

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